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this map file is literally on my desktop lmao

but i didnt like it

Decline it then

Map is ok but how to do the first part with 2p

3p map

U can do all parts with 2p, only the first one need 3?

I mean we did it with 3 but all other parts work with 2, idk what to do with it

the part with daggers better to do with 3p

The big part?

I did this solo xd

Or u mean the part where u have to turn off the switch

yeah, it's possible with 2p, but better when some1 else will press button 😄

this one

but yeah, other parts can be passed with 2p

I don't think it's a cool idea to have a t0 map where u need 3 player at the first part and after that only 2

Maybe we can rework this map a bit

also don't like the last one

with ninja

But idk if it's worth

Of course, we can rework the map, what about just simplifying the parts that need to be done by three people?

Ok u can do it if u want

okay, will try later

Just name it _remake, i try to change it later

👍

$change name "Barbra Streisand_remake"

I hope now the map can be passed in 2p

i wont change the name to this remake trash

The map construct stays the same so it can keep the name just put the reworker as co mapper

we have to change the first part as i said

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1108505145509154926/1109145988947509330

if we change the first part, old ht and other things can be fixed too

i see no problem in _remake

changed old ht

the first part can be passed with 2p

?xd its not oldschool then anymore

theres absolutely no reason to change ht

where tf are u getting these maps from though, lol

its ok with _remake 😄

like the other map ddpika

I do not quite understand the point of using the old ht, other than the visual difference there is nothing that could affect the gameplay for example. Except in rare cases, where the same ht placed is crooked, because of which the hook may not work like with the new ht, but this is not a very good reason to say that the map is no longer old school. Here is a vivid example of changing the gameplay https://ddnet.org/mappreview/?map=Inception+Oldschool, in the original version, kill tiles were completely absent on the map, whereas in the released version there are a lot of kill tiles, but it's still oldschool, why? ;D

barba_streisand ? only russian could create this xD

i let the old ht stay too if its not needed to change

but here u already changed the first part, so its ok for me to change now the other stuff and name it remake

I’ll mark the missing elements like speedup, turn_on button and freeze, but I don’t really want to change the gameplay of other parts, only if they are bad for u

no its ok

u can fix visual bugs

Okay

or clean up the design

$waiting

its a complete rework by us cuz its a good map but its from 2011 and the map was totally open everywhere so u could fly and aled everywhere which wasnt possible back then

i dont want to see tiles in pre ddnet maps that didnt exist back then

I increasingly notice that over time there are more and more rules and blots in relation to old school maps. I clearly remember the phrase "The gameplay of old school maps cannot be changed in any way, except for those cases when the map contains skips from start to finish, or some skips in the middle of the gameplay that significantly speed up the passage", no longer I remember who said it, but until recently I was sure that this is the only rule that should be taken into account in the first place when testing / fixing old school maps. But, unfortunately, things are very sad, the rules are often ignored and changes are made to old maps.

You say that in Inception_Oldschool there was a lot of space that could be skipped with aled, so what was the problem with just taking and closing this space without interfering with the gameplay? I understand that the map is open and that you can skip almost the entire map, but I still can not understand the reason for spamming kills all over the map. Okay, kills have been added, but a huge part of the gameplay has been changed as well, so I don’t think that when reworking the map, you limited yourself to just closing the skips around. The result is a completely different map.

Damn, and if you take and change the old ht to a new one, then the map immediately becomes not old school, I don’t understand something in this iron logic of yours.

Find ten differences lol

fixed the above, and also fixed some bugs with the background

it was literally impossible to just close the map. Yeah its a very different map now but the main structure still exists. It wasnt me to add all the kills tho. It doesnt matter anyway because oldschool is for nostalgical reasons for good maps from pre ddnet time. Adding tiles that didnt exist back then is just against the oldschool spirit. The LichKing rework also had to remove its ddnet tiles

mark it in both parts?

$waiting

-removed stoppers -marked tp's

$optimize

$ready 2

dam i played the map after the rls, one of the worst map i ever played

xd

$archive_imm