"Arcadian 2" by Soapy Sandwich & Jimmy Jazz [Brutal]
DDNet 03/13/2019 4:13 PM
@Soapy Sandwich
texnonik 03/13/2019 5:16 PM

i saw someone playing arcadian 1 that map was insanly cool ! Need to play it and this ! Thank you !

texnonik 03/13/2019 5:19 PM

maybe add speedups at start ?

texnonik 03/13/2019 5:22 PM

mark hammer

texnonik 03/13/2019 5:33 PM

cheat possible ? (in team 0 (3p possible definitely)

jao 03/14/2019 7:05 PM
JimmyJazzThe1st 03/14/2019 7:05 PM

ok there thank you. Was not here before

JimmyJazzThe1st 03/14/2019 7:07 PM

Thanks texnonik. You are going to have to be a little bit more clear as i dont fully understand what you are refering to in your screens or suggestions. Please clarify^^

Soapy Sandwich 03/15/2019 9:07 AM

I don't understand the cheat unless you mean fly and hammer up ? First screenshot I understand and will mark.

texnonik 03/15/2019 4:38 PM
@Soapy Sandwich

you can get rocket to cto 31 by going back fast ( can you ? i am not sure (in team 0 (3p possible definitely) )

n000b 03/18/2019 8:45 PM

You guys need help with testing? In return i want u guys to check my (not finished map) is that a good deal?

Soapy Sandwich 03/19/2019 9:26 AM

Thanks texnonik, I don't know how I was so blind I didn't see the grenade/rocket. XD Cheat has been fixed and hammer symbol has been included, also slightly improved the flow of the part where hammer was missing with better use of CPs.

Thanks again for the test texnonik, we do appreciate it.

Soapy Sandwich 03/19/2019 9:28 AM

let me know what I can test for you and I'll do my best :).

n000b 03/19/2019 2:28 PM
@Soapy Sandwich

lets test your map together and then play mine together?

JimmyJazzThe1st 03/20/2019 12:53 PM

I raised Soapy to have better manners than this n000b. Sorry about that.

That would be a nice exchange we can do sometime soon.

n000b 03/20/2019 5:41 PM
Soapy Sandwich 03/22/2019 9:30 AM

Finally broke out of jimmy's basement, so when you keen to do it @n000b

n000b 03/22/2019 4:41 PM

I am pretty busy late, but maybe saturday evening or something.

Soapy Sandwich 03/23/2019 10:57 AM

Can't tonight sadly but tomorrow?

n000b 03/23/2019 3:38 PM

Ah yeah i can try

n000b 03/24/2019 11:55 AM

Yeah today is a good day, let me know at what time

Soapy Sandwich 03/26/2019 5:16 PM

Sorry man I really don't go on discord enough XD

n000b 03/27/2019 6:02 AM

Haha, i will hit you up ingame, but i think that will be after my holdiaytrip to Tenerife.

Soapy Sandwich 04/10/2019 3:16 PM

n000b when you ready to test again ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

n000b 04/10/2019 6:11 PM

This weekend i guess

n000b 04/10/2019 6:11 PM
ั‚ฯ…x 04/23/2019 4:06 PM
ั‚ฯ…x 04/23/2019 4:06 PM
ั‚ฯ…x 04/23/2019 4:07 PM

Cool map

Soapy Sandwich 04/24/2019 8:35 AM



I will definitely use that suggestion.

Kicker 04/30/2019 9:45 PM

mark somehow that dragged tee need to hammer another guy, its not obvious and you can easy fail cause of that

Kicker 04/30/2019 9:47 PM

switch in solo part not on solo map is bad, u always have to wait for ur mate, imagine this in team 0

Kicker 04/30/2019 9:49 PM

add more space cause of team 0 here or just add "sv_pauseable 1" in server settings

Kicker 04/30/2019 9:51 PM

what the point to place endless hook so far away

Kicker 04/30/2019 9:52 PM


Kicker 04/30/2019 9:55 PM

little cheat

Kicker 04/30/2019 10:08 PM

drag is too long, cut it somehow, or make hook at end less faily

Soapy Sandwich 05/15/2019 12:46 AM
Soapy Sandwich 05/15/2019 1:03 AM
  1. Added Tux's suggestion.
  2. Marked that hammer is required in long drag.
  3. Made use of friendlier switches and redesigned solo part.
  4. Added pauseable.
  5. In jetpack part endless hook is far away as it must be obtained while dragging the other tee.
  6. Made the cheat in the jetpack part harder/impossible.
  7. Fixed the little cheat in the first deep part.
  8. I don't personally find the drag part too long, also I am not sure what makes the end hook faily.
jao 09/13/2019 2:16 PM
@Soapy Sandwich@JimmyJazzThe1st
JimmyJazzThe1st 09/26/2019 9:55 AM

Hey sorry will get on it soon soapy has been MIA for a while now and i have also not been on TW much lately. Will send a revised version in a week or so. Sorry

jao 10/23/2019 11:24 AM


jao 10/23/2019 11:25 AM

moving this back when there is an update

Soapy Sandwich 10/26/2019 4:39 AM

Hey sorry I've been away for a while, haven't had much chance to work on maps XD I have adjusted a lot of parts please let me know if this is a better map XD

JimmyJazzThe1st 11/05/2019 6:57 PM



n000b 11/07/2019 7:52 PM

Testing became a bit in a slow gear so i am not sure if the right persons test it soon.

JimmyJazzThe1st 11/11/2019 8:48 AM

waited nearly a year whats a few more months ๐Ÿ™‚

skua 11/13/2019 10:43 AM

that noobfilter is too hard and ultra annoying ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

skua 11/13/2019 10:43 AM

maybe im just too bad

JimmyJazzThe1st 11/14/2019 7:43 AM

Probably 95% bad but ye you can skip the solo if atleast one person does it. You could even use a dummy so no one has to do the solo again ๐Ÿ˜›

n000b 11/14/2019 11:56 AM

Then what is the function of the noobfilter

skua 11/14/2019 1:18 PM

to annoy everyone yes

skua 11/14/2019 1:18 PM

but idk

skua 11/14/2019 1:18 PM

Am I the only one who can't do this noobfilter?

Boci 11/14/2019 2:03 PM

i did it

Boci 11/14/2019 2:03 PM

it's not insanely hard

Boci 11/14/2019 2:07 PM

u must be doing it wrong

Boci 11/14/2019 2:08 PM

but i think it's annoying

Boci 11/14/2019 2:08 PM


ั‚ฯ…x 11/14/2019 2:33 PM

In my opinion it's solid and fits the map's difficulty but might scare some players away.. ๐Ÿค”

Boci 11/14/2019 2:48 PM

the ninja as a weapon is outdated

Boci 11/14/2019 2:48 PM

that's why it's annoying

skua 11/14/2019 3:32 PM

ninja is fun

skua 11/14/2019 3:32 PM

in some cases

Boci 11/14/2019 3:37 PM

worst gun

sinisa 11/14/2019 3:37 PM


Boci 11/14/2019 3:38 PM


JimmyJazzThe1st 11/19/2019 11:16 AM

I really dont care if we remove the solo but if you find that part hard/ annoying, dont attempt the map.

And the point of a noob filter is to filter out the noobs. If a new player votes the map, i want them to understand the map requires more than your past 30 moderate maps which are all the same map with a different design. Basically teaches nothing.

If they do the solo, then either they can practice it more or leave a dummy at the other side. But yeah i dont expect more than 100/200 finishes? Keep solo, Remove solo, i dont care.

Jesus Christ 11/19/2019 12:29 PM

the nf is not hard compared to the map

Jesus Christ 11/19/2019 12:29 PM

dont forget its brutal and not mod

Ravie 11/19/2019 8:56 PM

noob filters are useless anyway

JimmyJazzThe1st 11/21/2019 3:35 PM

Seems like priority in map testing is useless too.

JimmyJazzThe1st 11/21/2019 3:36 PM

lets forget the solo for now and just focus on the fixes that were made so i can move on.

n000b 11/21/2019 4:25 PM

F3. I maybe have time to take a look at it this weekend, but don't expect anything from my side.

JimmyJazzThe1st 11/22/2019 11:34 AM

All good man. I appreciate that. As long as you dont test the next 50 maps that come after ill be happy. ๐Ÿ™‚

jao 11/22/2019 12:45 PM

i dont think you have the place to complain about not being prioritized after not sending an update for like 2 months

n000b 11/22/2019 2:18 PM

True af

Cรธke 11/22/2019 2:55 PM

true but testing is random xD

Ravie 11/22/2019 4:45 PM

not really, maps that need little or no testing get quick release

Boci 11/23/2019 12:17 PM

example <#642308728837767168>

JimmyJazzThe1st 11/26/2019 7:47 PM

hmmm i wont make it a long message but the map was posted in March and the ddnet bot posted in september so its nearly 6 months. At that point it was a drag plus i was working a lot. Soapy had the official map because he did extra tests with you if im correct.

At this point how is the map hard to test? Everything works, we fixed what was asked. We ran multiple times. When someone creates a map, they want the workflow to continue to some degree. At this point with all the testing and fixing the least that could be done would move this to somewhere in your general "to test maps" based off how long its been here and not "how hard it is to test"?

jao 11/26/2019 10:45 PM

"how is the map hard to test?" -> its essentially a new map for me now since i dont remember anything about it anymore

jao 11/26/2019 10:46 PM

if youd have followed up with a fix shortly after my last test the effort to get it done would have been a lot smaller

jao 11/26/2019 10:46 PM

but i agree that its also my fault for taking so long

jao 11/26/2019 10:47 PM

i dont have any "to test maps" btw

jao 11/26/2019 10:47 PM

i test what i feel like testing

JimmyJazzThe1st 11/27/2019 10:44 AM

Ok you do you then. Test whatever you want. My point is still priority. And considering we only made minor adjustments and a few minor part reworks, it seems weird that its now a brand new map for you considering youve seen the map countless times now. We didnt rework the map i promise. It would be obvious if you opened the map too.

"i dont have any "to test maps" btw i test what i feel like testing" Yes we have all noticed this man, its called lack of priority and the thing that frustrates mappers.

"if youd have followed up with a fix shortly after my last test the effort to get it done would have been a lot smaller" And yeah i didnt think about this at the time when i was working from 6 AM till 5PM roughly every day. I should have just taken my computer to work i guess. My bad after 6 months of posting the map.

jao 11/27/2019 4:26 PM
jao 11/27/2019 4:50 PM
jao 11/27/2019 4:51 PM

i need someone for a final run

JimmyJazzThe1st 11/28/2019 10:21 AM

Doubt i can run with you but if soapy is online i could run with him for you?

Soapy Sandwich 11/28/2019 2:19 PM

Sorry I missed so much. Had a rough patch with work recently and forgot to check arcadian again. Not used to discord without notifications of updates here.

That aside I am available for testing the map today if anyone would like to see it. Sorry that you had to end up making changes jao but thanks again for all the work you do.

Soapy Sandwich 11/28/2019 8:25 PM
Soapy Sandwich 11/28/2019 8:44 PM
Soapy Sandwich 11/28/2019 8:56 PM
Soapy Sandwich 11/28/2019 9:20 PM

Hopefully jao can't find 100 mistakes this time XD

jao 11/28/2019 9:25 PM

ready 3*

JimmyJazzThe1st 11/29/2019 11:38 AM

Much appreciated ^^

Boci 11/30/2019 8:52 PM

That cp should move up, so if 2 people jump in at the same time and they tower they don't block eachother from the cp

Boci 11/30/2019 10:02 PM

3 stars btw

Jesus Christ 11/30/2019 10:13 PM

3 stars is fine

JimmyJazzThe1st 12/01/2019 10:06 AM

I thought map was going to be 2 stars xD so dont talk to me.

ั‚ฯ…x 12/01/2019 10:18 AM

yeah its just long but not that hard anyway nice map :)

Brokecdx- 12/01/2019 10:18 AM


jao 12/01/2019 1:08 PM

wonโ€™t fix

Boci 12/01/2019 5:50 PM

fix pls

Boci 12/01/2019 5:51 PM

move cp pls

Boci 12/01/2019 5:51 PM

if u wanna finish with 4 ppl and u arent playing in entities it's gonna happen to u

jao 12/01/2019 5:52 PM

it's not worth reuploading map for this

Boci 12/01/2019 7:44 PM

u reuploaded yun gu 2 for a missing freeze tile

Boci 12/03/2019 6:17 PM


Boci 12/03/2019 6:17 PM

stuck like that forever

skua 12/03/2019 6:26 PM

wouldnt make this map better

Boci 12/03/2019 6:36 PM

yes but it would prevent failing at 125 minutes