"Stacked" by Soapy Sandwich [Dummy]
DDNet 03/26/2019 5:25 PM
@Soapy Sandwich
DDNet 03/26/2019 5:25 PM
Soapy Sandwich 03/27/2019 11:50 AM

Tested with many SA players, Fixed 2 graphics bugs and one skip. Also dilated two more images that needed it.

jao 03/27/2019 8:47 PM

is the shotgun bug used in any released map? I'm not really sure if we should introduce it as a feature..

Silex 03/27/2019 9:18 PM

H e y n r y ch

archimede67 03/27/2019 10:06 PM

what bug?

Soapy Sandwich 03/28/2019 9:45 AM

archimede67: when stacked shooting shotgun launches you up to the ceiling really fast, it basically gives the shot tee great speed up and left.

jao: My opinion would be that the shotgun bug would be a fine thing to add. I mean I don't think we are going to fix it so why not take advantage of it. Similar maps include broken brain and rocket is key which use the speeder bugs to generate similar speeds. I know they aren't exactly the shotgun bug but they are similar unintended ways to gain speed.

To me its just one more thing I love about this game and want to share how fun it can be. XD

jao 03/29/2019 3:35 PM

I mean I don't think we are going to fix it I wouldn't rely on this assumption

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:07 PM

If you are ever going to delete it you will have to fix a lot of times

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:07 PM

But if this gets implemented you should make a "tutorial room" for it? idk

jao 03/29/2019 4:08 PM

don't think so, it's not such an easy "cheat thing" in general

jao 03/29/2019 4:08 PM

mostly used to do startline skips

jao 03/29/2019 4:08 PM

which are all deleted

jao 03/29/2019 4:08 PM

you can't control it

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:09 PM

Startline skips are all deleted lol ?

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:09 PM

What about all the kill tile skips

jao 03/29/2019 4:09 PM


jao 03/29/2019 4:10 PM

we fixed all startline skips like ~2 years ago with konsti

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:10 PM

"What about all the kill tile skips"

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:10 PM

And other skips with sg bug

jao 03/29/2019 4:10 PM


jao 03/29/2019 4:10 PM


Bacon 03/29/2019 4:11 PM

I can recall at least 1 brutal I forgot the name of

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:11 PM

And Just Hookfly 2

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:11 PM

For example

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:11 PM

You wanna have a fun demo ?

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:14 PM

or you can just tell him

jao 03/29/2019 4:15 PM

yea just hookfly 2 is a problem maybe

Jesus Christ 03/29/2019 4:15 PM

There are still maps using this bug to do startline skip

jao 03/29/2019 4:16 PM

report them then :)

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:22 PM

Found it

Bacon 03/29/2019 4:22 PM


Bacon 03/29/2019 4:22 PM
  1. 00:25 ScReeNy & lola
  2. 00:36 N9mkOik & Tropo
  3. 10:20 -Twist°~ & Shawn.
jao 03/29/2019 4:30 PM


jao 03/29/2019 4:30 PM

will fix

Syltoox 03/29/2019 4:33 PM

Just hookfly2 doesnt use it to skip startline

jao 03/29/2019 4:39 PM


Im 'corneum 03/29/2019 5:22 PM

some zatrados also has the kill cheat

Bacon 03/29/2019 10:04 PM

Yeah just hookfly2 only uses the sgbug to skip to last part

Syltoox 03/29/2019 10:08 PM

wow anyone can do that easily

Syltoox 03/29/2019 10:09 PM

also u cant know now which times are cheated or not

jao 03/29/2019 10:11 PM

delete map

Soapy Sandwich 03/29/2019 10:36 PM

I did make a room where you can test out the guns in my map. Is more of a tutorial required ?

stompie 03/29/2019 10:44 PM

72% of this topic is not about the map, how does it feel to play the map

stompie 03/29/2019 10:44 PM

now 73% is not about he map 😄

Ravie 03/29/2019 10:45 PM

Now 75%

stompie 03/30/2019 1:03 AM

Anyone played the map yet?

PotatoEater 03/31/2019 6:45 PM

next he will write will be

PotatoEater 03/31/2019 6:45 PM


PotatoEater 03/31/2019 6:45 PM

from jao

PotatoEater 03/31/2019 6:45 PM

as always

texnonik 03/31/2019 6:47 PM

reason ddmax

PotatoEater 03/31/2019 6:47 PM

too much entities

PotatoEater 03/31/2019 6:47 PM

mostly hookable blocks

Freezestyler 04/01/2019 1:12 PM

there are maps that intend the sg bug already, so this shouldnt be a problem

skua 04/01/2019 1:57 PM

sg bug is annoying. Why should anyone use it as a part of normal gameplay

Freezestyler 04/01/2019 3:04 PM

I think the bug is really cool

Soapy Sandwich 04/01/2019 3:39 PM

I must agree it is really cool and consistent which makes it a very interesting thing to use.

texnonik 04/01/2019 3:46 PM

but i know other bug

jao 04/02/2019 3:08 PM

what maps



Freezestyler 04/02/2019 3:47 PM

e.g. justice 2; pretty sure there are more

jao 04/02/2019 3:47 PM

what part in justice 2?

Freezestyler 04/02/2019 3:51 PM

the tune zone rocket deep part

Freezestyler 04/02/2019 3:52 PM

Not at my laptop atm, cant send a screen

Kicker 04/02/2019 3:56 PM

cp 28

Freezestyler 04/02/2019 3:58 PM

thanks, Kicker :3

jao 04/02/2019 3:59 PM

ah ty

Syltoox 04/03/2019 11:26 PM
@Bumm Lol
skua 04/03/2019 11:46 PM


Soapy Sandwich 04/06/2019 2:13 AM

Can this map have a team finish? Cause it is a copy fly like map and copy fly has a team finish XD

I will keep the finish as I have it but add a longer way to get the team finish thus making it sort of 2 maps in one XD

Soapy Sandwich 04/06/2019 2:19 AM

i know we had this debate before but I do think it could add a lot more enjoyment to maps, assuming these conditions are followed:

Team finish times can't be possible faster or as fast as normal finish (Thus not ruining normal ranks). Team finish is enjoyable to play (Not just a rushed thrown in thing but instead receiving attention like the rest of the map).

I know its a change to the way things currently work but I think it will be for the better as team finishes are already possible on dummy maps and constantly removing them isn't really a solution.

jao 04/06/2019 8:34 AM


stompie 04/06/2019 8:37 AM

How bout someone actually posts something about the map besides soapy Hows the map run Do you see any design/entitiy bugs Any misplaces cp Marked something wrong Is it ready to be released

jao 04/06/2019 8:39 AM

go ahead

jao 04/06/2019 8:39 AM


Dareka 04/07/2019 2:15 PM

Do you actually still like testing maps ?

jao 04/07/2019 2:36 PM


Freezestyler 04/07/2019 2:48 PM

imo this map shouldn't be released, basically you need a flawless internet connection and this is what makes it difficult, can't even do part 1 because of that

stompie 04/07/2019 5:11 PM

ive tested the map extensively with the mapper and i think its creative way of using the dummy copy ability while using some querky things like the shotgun bug id say its ready for release dummy 2-3 star

Soapy Sandwich 04/07/2019 7:51 PM

I appreciate the input, however I have found that everyone in the south African community (that have tested the map) has seemed to enjoy it and have had minimal issue completing it with sub optimal Internet connections.

I did try to address the issues of poorer connections in the map by including many checkpoints at frequent intervals.

So the connection issue only comes into play if going for top ranks, but that plays a role in all maps so I think this map should be ok.

Freezestyler 04/07/2019 8:42 PM

actually this is a problem that makes every part in your map random, even if only one part was random it would be bad enough a whole map like that just isn't reasonable and unenjoyable

Onda 04/07/2019 8:47 PM

random as in?

jao 04/07/2019 11:22 PM

I think this map would be nice to have

jao 04/07/2019 11:22 PM

it's not the normal kind of map you see every day

jao 04/07/2019 11:23 PM

even if not everyone has the setup to play it in the end

jao 04/07/2019 11:23 PM

it shouldn't be a burden for those who are able to play it

jao 04/07/2019 11:23 PM

so not a dealbreaker

Soapy Sandwich 04/08/2019 11:01 AM

Thanks jao


I don't really get what you mean by random, the map plays the exact same way if your net is being stable. So it may be strange or seem unusual but I wouldn't call it random?

Freezestyler 04/09/2019 8:52 PM

What? Of course it is random, because you could play the map perfectly, but even the smallest lag messes it up, releasing a map that requires perfect internet connection or whatever, just isn't right imo this would be a case for the fun server, since it would be a problem for the points system as well, I'm sure there would be many finishes for others on this map, because people just don't own the needed set-up

Freezestyler 04/09/2019 8:56 PM

Well, instead of random you might rather call it impossible for people without the right set-up

Onda 04/09/2019 9:02 PM

doesnt aim maps require basically perfect connection

jao 04/09/2019 9:09 PM

not sure if we should put any value on the points system considering how broken it is

Freezestyler 04/09/2019 9:16 PM

why would you break it even more? anyway, it would be simply unfair to release this as a normal map, I think you got my point

jao 04/09/2019 9:23 PM

I think it would be even more unfair to those who are able to play it

jao 04/09/2019 9:24 PM

point hunters or whatever are a minority

jao 04/09/2019 9:24 PM

if some people have to miss out on the fun, it's sad

jao 04/09/2019 9:24 PM

but why ruin it for everyone else?

Freezestyler 04/09/2019 9:25 PM

that's why I suggested the fun server

jao 04/09/2019 9:26 PM

fun server is for maps without actual gameplay

jao 04/09/2019 9:26 PM

besides that, there is only one on GER

jao 04/09/2019 9:26 PM

and the map author is from ZAF

jao 04/09/2019 9:27 PM

so that wouldn't be nice to him

jao 04/09/2019 9:29 PM

Just deep fly has the same problem btw

Brokecdx- 04/09/2019 9:58 PM

My internet connection is not stable at all and i finished it already on a legit basis btw i doubt it would be a mistake releasing this

Ravie 04/10/2019 9:05 AM

If the map works fine for people from South Africa why would it not work for people with an European connection?

jao 04/10/2019 11:33 AM

internet in germany is bad, his concerns are valid

Soapy Sandwich 04/10/2019 4:28 PM

Improved Tutorial Room, Added Tutorial Sign, Improved Secret.

South African internet is also pretty trash XD

archimede67 04/10/2019 5:48 PM

What's secret

Freezestyler 04/10/2019 6:04 PM

Well, I surely can only talk for myself, seems like it works fine for others, anyway I still think that it would be unfair to normally release this map, no idea how all of you could do it, but seems like I am a part of the minority :p

Bacon 04/11/2019 2:36 PM

I also have problems with it

Bacon 04/11/2019 2:36 PM

Almost feels like Rng mapping tbh

Soapy Sandwich 04/12/2019 2:11 PM

Fixed a few incorrect tp/freeze tiles that fokkonaut pointed out. Went over whole map again and hopefully there are no more errors like that.

Made no gameplay changes.

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Soapy Sandwich 04/12/2019 2:15 PM

sorry that the map isn't enjoyable to you. If I could fix the issues I would but I really think this map fits in well with ddnet. I think it uses the mechanics of the game in a new interesting way and we already do have maps that would cause the same issues that this one does.

I do hope you get the chance to play it on a more stable connection and hopefully you enjoy it then.

stompie 05/01/2019 10:07 PM


Дядя Женя 06/28/2019 10:27 AM

There is no such map ("stacked") on test servers

Дядя Женя 06/28/2019 10:28 AM

Fix it please, or move channel to [Evaluated] if it's declained alreay

Дядя Женя 06/28/2019 10:28 AM
Ravie 06/28/2019 12:23 PM

It's not declined

@Дядя Женя

I guess maps get deleted from test servers if they aren't updated for too long or something like that, a tester needs to manually load it again then

Дядя Женя 06/28/2019 12:24 PM

lol, reload then?

jao 06/28/2019 12:25 PM


Soapy Sandwich 06/30/2019 10:07 PM

Thanks @Evgesha

Soapy Sandwich 06/30/2019 10:07 PM
@Дядя Женя
Soapy Sandwich 07/23/2019 1:11 PM

Tested with jao and have made changes suggested.

Soapy Sandwich 07/23/2019 1:18 PM

Quick check and updated again

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jao 07/23/2019 1:20 PM

$ready 3*

stompie 07/23/2019 11:35 PM

im sorry its not releasable in this state theres just waay to much blue you have to redo design

skua 07/24/2019 10:30 AM

da ba de da be daa

Dareka 07/24/2019 5:31 PM


texnonik 07/25/2019 12:45 PM

dummy can't get rocket fix pliz

texnonik 07/25/2019 12:45 PM
RonIn 07/25/2019 1:04 PM


jao 07/26/2019 9:16 AM

how does it happen and how do I fix it

jao 07/26/2019 11:24 AM
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texnonik 07/26/2019 3:05 PM

for some reason its probably name glitch or somethink else that can happen with someone too , there is dummy map where you need to hammer dummy and he need to shoot ninja in end of the map but for some reason its not working 😄

Pepe 07/27/2019 2:26 AM

Map cant be finished by ppl with more than 100 ping :(

DarkOort 07/27/2019 3:12 AM

that's the speciality of this map

DarkOort 07/27/2019 3:12 AM

this map is not free to play

DarkOort 07/27/2019 3:13 AM

you need to have the best connexion in the world

texnonik 07/27/2019 3:22 PM


texnonik 07/27/2019 3:22 PM

and also monitor with 144ping

Onda 07/27/2019 3:23 PM

your ping needs to be real-time

Ravie 07/27/2019 5:51 PM

you need to disable prediction

Ravie 07/27/2019 5:52 PM

For synchronised dummy

Pepe 07/28/2019 12:26 AM

still doesnt work

Pepe 07/28/2019 12:27 AM

you lit need a very good connection

LazyMan 07/31/2019 5:29 PM

not of your pro like me