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no

no

this is like i_wanna_get_the_points but worse

can I at least get a test

cool

mb not put start on spawn

still not worst map to speedrun

$decline map too long

Okay but fr map feels inconsistent asf

Every move has a consistent setup if you are input buffering

if it's too short, I'm willing to add more. If certain parts are too repetitive, I'm willing to change them

added time cps

optimized start

well it's both too short and repetitive and also the gameplay is just not fit for ddnet so

I understand that it may be short and repetitive but what do you mean by not fit for ddnet?

not trying to be provocative just genuinely curious

its just like bare autoparts

we are fine with them in cases like schwung

but this map has no substance otherwise, just too plain

for example, think if the map was not auto but just normal jumps

the thing is they arent autoparts, you have to buffer the inputs or the parts don't work

so its constant gameplay

you can't pause throughout the whole map

there's one or 2 parts where you can stall, but the whole point is that the gameplay is fast paced

yeah but imagine without the buffer it's just single jumps

and the single jumps aren't rly fun

esp the last half of the map is just the same thing

i mean i think you know what we are looking for on ddnet

you already have a few released maps

im re-working the last part of the map

I'm trying to get outside the creative bounds

i think solo maps have the most potential there

already done XD

look at anima

anima was an inspiration 🙂

the parts are far from the same though due to the lack of downtime you have in this map

take it or leave it, I would rather have the "concept" be declined than the "execution"

I'll update later one more time and if that doesn't change your mind than you can decline it

its execution

then what can I do to make it better

other than make it longer and add more variety

solo maps have least creative potential

wtf

louis is wrong

I strongly disagree

it limits the amnt of physical interactions so has an objectively lower part pool

sometimes limitations force mappers to come up with creative solutions to problems

a map needs to limit the parts it uses or it will be a mess

no map uses all interaction

yeah but creative potential is different from how easy it is to be creative

so it needs more diversity?

anyways

not talking about this map

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the thing is adding buffers to a map doesnt necessarily make it a lot more creative

that usually comes from interesting movements or different ways to do an existing movement

buffers are just a physical input technique

== different way to do existing moement

you shouldnt be making a map out of buffers, but adding buffers to an already nice map

if u want to use this technique

ofc there are some buffer specific

but like yeah this map is not creative enough for its length

well u didnt give urself enough to work w by making anima but no hook/weps

+

no problem with concept

it's a bit different from anima

but yeah i did try to limit myself as much as possible

:p

ya its different but you should extend

il work on it a bit more but I would like to keep it short if possible

more than on e direction change in air, toetap

mayb hook

im fine with it being a bit longer

why ? its 1* rn, u wont make it too hard

I guess it's more of an aesthetic decision

idk

xd

i thought about using hook but it can be inconsistent

il work with it a bit more

have player hook into wall

thats a bit too much like anima though :p

anima is good so its ok

u only reason should be to make speedrun less cancer, but u can spread parts out to prevent skip

i think the speedrun is really fun tho

:c

i dont

but i only speak for me

before I add anything else is this any better

barely

but now its very skippable

you'll have to branch out from just single jumps if you want smth like this to be releasable

and make it a lot more dynamic, etc

alright, that strays a bit from what I'm wanting from this map, so you can go ahead and decline it

regardless, thanks for the feedback

$decline

Maybe add in frame perfect pixel perfect hooks to do

Pls no

idk i dont like this gameplay)