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$ready 2

my honest reaction:

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wow nice test there pipou you're really efficient at this

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thoughts?

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-annoyed-gif-11134341

$reset

this bit of freeze feels in the way of doing the part

walking off from here like intended makes you hit the corner 50/50, that's very bad

I would remove the edges as they're not meant to be used in the part and might trip someone up

the parallax on stars feels strange to me, they move more horizontally than vertically

also I think the map is definitely harder than 2*

good map

2-3*

one of few coke maps that is playable and fun

this 1 hook is kinda shit but it is unfaily

My decision was to make it a little harder but unfaily than easy and faily..even that would be too easy imo

I never hit that freeze by doing the part, if u touch it u do something wrong

(it's not the right way of doing the part as I said) For me it is ok that it is hard to jump past there. It's also ok for me if someone makes it, the jump is hard enough.... For me harder than the normal jump. There are many places that are unfaily but also faily places and places where you fall back parts, as well as parts that are not clearly recognizable ... But that's just the map, so I kept it short

As I already said, there are many places that are unfaily but also faily places and places where you fall back parts, as well as parts that are not clearly recognizable ...

For this idk, it was the best for me

I remember back at sketch when I showed a skip, you also said that it doesn't matter because it's weird and hard so why shouldn't I just leave it like that

This switch seems unreachable, should redo part.

I'm afraid that's a wrong map xd

dont be afraid!

i would name as jaomp

maybe jao.mp3?

maybe put here freeze for antiskip ? (but i don't know will it work then)

It's ok, u can use edge or go fast left without edge, there are many parts where u can use not just one way to do it. u already notice it, if I add freeze.. Nothing change, just make the part worse

the "real" way is harder and less intuitive, no reason to not fix it for the people who will play it this way

I explained yesterday why it should work as a save way since there are several ways to mess up and if you do, you go back several parts, it already looks like an intended save way but then you get screwed even harder if you try it

that's not a reason to add some fake stuff that looks like you need it in the part

cool map

cool map

witch part ?

u dont need that much swing at all

i think everyone is happy now

That was the only relevant information here

What did I have to do to have people testing more actively

The map was already great, that one small fix was only to bring some more comfort

Resetting it was pointless

Anyway

$ready 2

a lot of people agree with me on this

imo its not hard like 3*, its the problem with having only 5 stars

its more like 2.5

I checked a dozens of 2 and 3 stars maps

And it feels like a 2* to me

guess we are getting a 10star ranking system next🙂

It's short enough and not really punishing

• the map only relies on 2 mechanics

some of the moves are really tricky and it's quite faily

and it's not THAT short

1:30 is short

it's not 1:30 for 2-3* players

Take jungle rush for exemple

It's about the same length

relies on 2 mechanics + has weapons

Doesn't have tele and it's 2*

• parts feel more punishing

jungle rush is maybe 2 bcs it feels not that hard for me

i rated it

Anyway, go on a server

vote random 3*

and try to find a map harder than jomp

You won't

then its ok i guess

Of course it won't be for beginners but that applies to any map and any length. Novice players will always take longer and even a short map will feel giant

it's harder than any 2* I've played

Maybe im delusional

But I keep voting random 2*

And it's about the same difficulty

maybe

Or maybe you are

idk

take into consideration that this map is faily, most 2* maps with same difficulty are at least not faily

There is a lot of faily 2*

yeah but the parts are simpler

I disagree

If you want more exemple

Take a look at Loopie

honestly that feels like a 3* map to me too

It's not easy but it doesn't feel hard enough compared to any 3* I voted

if it's somewhere between 2 and 3 then I'd rather make it 3

better slightly overrated than under

It feels closer to 2* to me

And I don't think overrating maps is a good idea when the average skill keeps increasing over the years

is this the correct way? i keep hitting the freeze on the left

xD bro made a discord account just to randomly complain the exact same thing as ravie lol

if the freeze gets in the way it means that u have to use a different way. try this one

I said it would happen to people and it did

what if you do this instead?

skip?

i wonder why still nobody find the useless skip in this picture

its in the red box (follow the line where the arrow is pointed at)

Missed one line

Testing at its best

forum wasnt that bad afterall..

I'm assuming figuring out the correct path is part of the map's charm cause this feels like a maze

Ofc

btw u just said that jomp is harder than every 3 star

so 4 star map?

MB

I meant the opposite

good cool map i approve even tho im bad at solo 👍 do think design is a bit goofy looking, seems cramped or something but prob dont matter(just my humble opinion)

The tight parts are part of the map's design (gameplay-wise)

The graphic design is quite simple and easy to read

i think it's him, as you can see he has a problem with every design 😄

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I wonder, what's a good design to you ? (a map for example)

I like the design, simple and not confusing

yeah prolly just me idk. something like vagrant or destoros maps have cool design

behemoth has lit design

Rerate to 3 stars

Anyone here able to do the shit?

Its not even hard and its short

Why 3 stars

And if u fail to do most parts, you fall down and get to try them again

1) Its hard (harder than pogo for sure) 2) There are a few hooks which are super precise for some reason 3) When you fall 70% of the time you die or lose so much that you might as well restart 3 stars is just right for this map

pogo is harder, i didn't finish it maybe rerate pogo map?

Be seriously

Yes it's short. But its tricky map, u need to learn timings, but before them u fail it 100 times. This map absolutely 3 stars.

Get good . Aoe finish it less then 10 tries . Maybe rerate map to 1 star

I do feel like this is more of a 3 than a 2

But I don’t think it’s a high enough difference in difficulty to be complaining about it

This map is barely over a minute long and all of the parts are easy if you run them in /practice. Even if you do fall you will most likely be able to redo the part. I don't really see how it could be 3*

problem is that rating for solo maps is very bad, for duo maps we have 20 levels of difficulty (nov,mod,brut,ins) and this while it is clearly not enough, at least between brut5 and ins1 should be at least 3* additional difficultis (brutal+ or something like that) for solo maps only 5 :/

so have to choose between "⭐ ⭐ -hard" or "⭐ ⭐ ⭐ -easy"

so you now discuss useless stuff like "blue and black dress" or "yellow and white"

Map is easy its just skill issue

You guys for real dumb if you cant compare 2 and 3 star maps

Also lenght of map does no affect difficult. It could have 2 parts in whole map which 5 stars, and map will be 5 stars.

This map will stay as 2 stars, nothing more to add.

"Also lenght of map does no affect difficult", since when lol

it definitely does its a combination of failyness, part difficulty, length

doing a hard faily part once is easy with infinite tries

doing 10 in a row without being allowed to fail once is not the same story at all

Do not really remember who said that but one of testers. Maybe arrow or louis idk

Thats different, 10 4 star parts is 4 star map, 50 4 star parts is also 4 star map.

We talk about map lenght at all, not only about part

thats not true especially wxhen its faily

1 run antibuguse part would never be 5 star race

and 1 memento mori part neither

So this logic works only if parts faily

not really

part 1 run antibuguse map wouldnt be 5 stars

its hard but its 1 part)

It would be, if ddnet would release 1 part map

Difficult is difficult

Run antibuguse show off u thats its hard from first part to last, its difinitely 5 star every part

i think it should still affect it a bit, especially if its well mapped (i.e barren with 5 parts would probably be brutal 1 or even less, because difficulty is increasing)

but yes its mostly true on faily maps

i glad we get general opinion

According to my expirience (especcially on solo maps and solo mapping) i'd rate it as 3

that raises a question tho

in most maps the length is "similar" and doesnt impact much feeling of difficulty as long as its not faily

but at what point does a map become so long or so short that it could impact difficulty feeling

i guess u are right

since we have saves and swap and all this shit now

even if its 5 hours long u can just save

it doesnt feel hard just annoying long

1+ min enough to be 3 stars, theres much timings, fails, and annoying swings, some edges which does not fit for 2 star maps 4 me

You baised to me, little piece of cake. Who are you to decide for all?

Worst moderator i ever saw, offended on me cuz i judged on race maps releasing and gave me mute for no real reason

Look at players opinion then say something instead of self-affirmation. Did u even played this map?

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