#simple
"simple" by DrafaKiller [Novice]
DDNet 12/13/2023 3:55 PM
@drafakiller

this is your map's testing channel! Post map updates here and remember to follow our mapper rules: https://ddnet.org/rules

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__tae__ 12/13/2023 4:00 PM

when rls

catseyenebulous 12/13/2023 4:02 PM

Cute map, when rls?

fjp123 12/13/2023 4:03 PM

$ready

mazty 12/13/2023 4:10 PM

when rls

pluskz 12/13/2023 4:19 PM

when rls

joyrofl 12/13/2023 4:27 PM

lol

coke1465 12/13/2023 4:29 PM

$decline

coke1465 12/13/2023 4:29 PM

pls read the

#📌info
drafakiller 12/13/2023 4:29 PM

Is it the checkpoints?

drafakiller 12/13/2023 4:31 PM

I had the checkpoints before, but when I was testing, the times were so small that I thought it wouldn't make sense on a map like this. But I was already adding them again.

knusk1 12/13/2023 4:31 PM

the decline is not because of the missing checkpoints

drafakiller 12/13/2023 4:32 PM

I did read it, what am I missing?

knusk1 12/13/2023 4:34 PM

Assuming you play with 2 people, without weapons: only one person has to do a proper part. the other person basically does nothing. This is the only part in the map, therefore the entire map is unbalanced.

knusk1 12/13/2023 4:34 PM

And the "part" is just 1 hook

knusk1 12/13/2023 4:35 PM

the "part" can be skipped down there

drafakiller 12/13/2023 4:39 PM

After getting the weapons, one person can do the whole map. That was the goal of the replayability. I didn't think that would be a problem.

drafakiller 12/13/2023 4:39 PM
texnonik 12/13/2023 4:40 PM

stop trolling

drafakiller 12/13/2023 4:40 PM

How is that trolling?

catseyenebulous 12/13/2023 4:44 PM

I honestly don't have anything against a map that needs to be played in a team and then can be speed-ran in solo but balancing it would be a problem I guess. You would have to play the map again so there should be interesting ways of doing it solo. But the main thing is it's just too short, not very creative, unbalanced and if there is a lot of players they would just block each other. But it's an interesting way to start your first map. :)

patiga 12/13/2023 4:45 PM

have a look at recently released maps, to get a feel for what kind of maps testers are looking for

drafakiller 12/13/2023 4:47 PM

I read the mapping rules and asked questions, but there wasn't anything about the length of the map. I like short maps, quick enough to be easy to master and compete for the record. The player number shouldn't be a problem. If too many players are blocking their way, they should join a team.

drafakiller 12/13/2023 4:50 PM

I would still appreciate the feedback on what I should read in

#📌info

, that made the map be declined.

patiga 12/13/2023 5:04 PM

It doesn't say in #info that a map should have a minimum length, or a minimum amount of creative parts. The rules try to be objective criteria which mappers must follow. But following all of them doesn't mean your map is good enough to be accepted. In this case, the map does not offer much gameplay. A quick run would maybe take 5-10 seconds and one person doesn't have anything to do. The map lacks in content. This is the reason why the map got rejected. A short 2 player map takes maybe 5-10 minutes in normal playtime, maybe aim for that size in your next map :)

drafakiller 12/13/2023 5:05 PM

Even if the gameplay of the map is contained in multiple runs?

patiga 12/13/2023 5:06 PM

yes

drafakiller 12/13/2023 5:08 PM

But if the problem is the length, then okay. I was hoping that would have been in the "Optional rules - but recommended" section of

#📌info

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patiga 12/13/2023 5:08 PM

yes, that could be added there

drafakiller 12/13/2023 5:08 PM

I was already redesigning so both players needed to do something, but that will be a waste if it won't make the map be accepted.

patiga 12/13/2023 5:09 PM

please have a look at recently released maps to see what testers are looking for

drafakiller 12/13/2023 5:10 PM

I understand, but there aren't any short maps released for me to compare to. I was hoping for a short project, not a 30 minutes map.

patiga 12/13/2023 5:10 PM

see tangerine maybe

patiga 12/13/2023 5:11 PM

that is a short map aiming to be relatively easy

patiga 12/13/2023 5:11 PM

if ddnet maps are not what you enjoy, you could have a look at the ddrock server, they host short, solo maps with the aim of getting a perfect time

coke1465 12/13/2023 5:14 PM
#💤💪quick_rune
drafakiller 12/13/2023 5:14 PM

I have been playing ddnet maps for a long time, but I never got the impression that longer maps is what ddnet was going for.

drafakiller 12/13/2023 5:15 PM

No permission.

drafakiller 12/13/2023 5:17 PM

It's difficult to work if I have to guess what will be accepted or not. Map length was never mentioned.

drafakiller 12/13/2023 5:18 PM

I will fix the map so both players need to do something, but it's still really unfortunate.

louis.place 12/13/2023 5:38 PM

fire map ngl

vappy19 12/14/2023 2:42 AM

Ddrock map

steinchen99 12/14/2023 11:59 AM

revolution of mapping right here

fjp123 12/14/2023 6:26 PM

Like I already said before, I'm not trying to create a 15-part map. I'm not building a castle. Unless you expect every ddnet map to be a castle. I tried to create a map that explored the interesting concept of forcing the player to do the same map twice in 2 different ways. The concept works on the 2nd version, now I just have to extend it as far as I can. I didn't submit the map with the expectation that it would offer the player the same experience of a fully complete 15-part map.

anthonyyx 12/14/2023 6:28 PM

very interesting concept indeed.

anthonyyx 12/14/2023 6:36 PM
@drafakiller

hey i found a skip in your map, should fix it imo, defeats the purpose of map else great map!

drafakiller 12/14/2023 6:37 PM

Oh, I didn't see that! Thank you a lot. ^^

drafakiller 12/14/2023 6:39 PM

This version of the map is outdated but I do need to fix that. I appreciate that feedback.

anthonyyx 12/14/2023 6:40 PM

would love to see the updated version in here if possible

drafakiller 12/14/2023 6:48 PM

That's with all the feedback so far. Now, I will have to try extending that concept as far as possible.

drafakiller 12/14/2023 6:52 PM
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texnonik 12/14/2023 7:19 PM

it's to short and you can do it solo with speed . look at recent released maps what they are making as example .

drafakiller 12/14/2023 7:26 PM

Yes, I will extend the concept

texnonik 12/14/2023 7:48 PM

first of all need to change it big . your parts are to simplistic . ( 2 parts if you can tell they are parts ) There is nothing to tell about map because it's just 2 parts .

drafakiller 12/14/2023 7:51 PM

Yes, I already understood that. The focus was not on the parts. The map has 3 parts, 2 of which are done twice. I wanted a simple map to explore the concept of repeating.

drafakiller 12/14/2023 7:52 PM

Like I said, now I will extend the map and actually focus on the parts. Thank you for the feedback, but that's what I already understood from yesterday's feedback.

texnonik 12/14/2023 8:16 PM

if you want to make something simple and easy look novice 1 star maps .

warlytoz 12/16/2023 2:12 PM

nice try