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Some of the unfreeze on this map, like Teeasy, is for speedrun But that map was Novice 1. This map doesn't look like Novice 1.

I'm considering adding 2-3 short parts. The map is supposed to be short, but it can be too short for a speedrun. I'm not sure.

• added 3 more parts

both can go down

both can go down too

this platform is not suitable for throwing right for novice player

faily spot (if people fail the throw)

what is this part for?

really punishing for novice players

because it can fall in the hole

I think you need to do something to avoid falling in the void

can accidentally fall in the hole

$waiting

talked with mapper ingame, the map is supposed to be so theres multiple ways to do some of the parts, some easier for novice and some maybe more low-moderate parts like the throw / speedrun strats

in thsi picture, both tees can just go below and use the 1-tiler to do the part

To avoid fail

Some of the parts have more than 2 ways to do them

Spot for speedrun

Map won't be too boring

For example, best skip for this part starts in previous part, cuz you need to get speed boost from swing section.

I can just delete all holes, its like 5 mins. I let testers to decide.

• changed first part (still both can do down, but its harder and pointless)

i think novice can fail someone here because of wall at top he can fall straight down ( to faily for novice (in my opinion )

this 2nd dummy drag is too simple and short

entity bug

to faily for novice in my opinion

solo have to be around where spawn is ( 2 players or more spawn near not in same place )

kinda pointless solo unsolo .

this 1 tile going up is hard for novice

this is very hard ( with out hook 2nd tee ) 6 tiles hard jump . 2nd image here is 5 it's easyer to do it alone .

probably too faily

both can do bottom path

i very like how you implemented here deep and undeep ++

probably hard to get inside maybe 2nd picture suggestion ?

i don't think that novice players can do hammer throw

+add extra hook up

i would make clouds half transparent (A parameter for clouds on this pic is 120)

instead of adding here a lot of layers . you can add one quads layer and slice what you need . (using grid ) then just rescale ( or rescale before cutting ( rescale 2x it will be same size then )

to move green dot use shift button

faily if top on holds and goest right

maybe wall here ?

maybe make this swing like so ?

I think it's it's a already a lot stuff you have to fix now

. Try looking map after once again maybe you could also improve something . thanks for testing

and

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$waiting

hopefully it's gonna be possible for release ( i hope so )

remove this bottom path no need it .

it will broke skip way for runners

but its for 2 tees

it's not moderate , it's novice , novice players are not so good . ( most of time ). Also can do it solo with out hook . ( but it's very hard )

in mint map you hook just little bit to get speed and it's solo

a lot of layer of what exactly ?

u mean mountains in bg ?

can do with 1 quad

ah oke

I will make changes within two days i guess

ty

ye ok don't rush take time

Don't pay attention to the previous message, I got too involved 😆

I tested your map and i have reasons to like this one, but more which are against a good map. The fact that you mapped it for speedrunners mainly, is making the parts for the Novice type of players worse and just boring, while speedrunners could/would probably enjoy it.

There are about 10 spots where the Tee has to wait to get unfreezed because the Unfreeze tiles are intentionally mapped for speedrunners only. It is just based on an advanced playstyle to get smooth and fast through the parts, unlike the Novice players which are most of the time just jumping through some Freeze tiles.

The Hookthrough Dragparts are really short and not really fascinating as they mostly contain 2 Hooks and just a run to the right side.

Conclusion I would probably make a new map or if you really want to improve this one, then you should take your time for each part and make it more of a Moderate map to avoid boring babyparts, but still keep a great gameplay when played without speedrun mechanics. Moderate players would also be more capable of using them in their runs. In general your parts should be a little bit longer and contain more enjoyable gameplay, because right now it is just existing in the specific speedrun ways.

Even tho it will not be released in the current state, I still like the idea of your mapping and I hope you will come back with some more creative parts to make such a map possible :D

Way harder and too tight in comparison to easy hookthrough parts. More space would feel more comfortable.

Could as well make more Hookthrough as every part has more chill Hooks and would feel more balanced for such an easy map

This also feels harder to do for Novice players

Just some things to watch out for and i hope you will take it as an advice :D Let me know if you want to rework this map.

$waiting

$decline

mapper doesnt want to rework

where he sayd that ?

asked him in game whats up with the map

u choosing what is boring for players in a map where players choose the way themselves

its low stakes introduction to brutal speedrun mechanics