Insane 2-3* i guess :p
totally copy of bit 2
if you rls this one, rls PsychoHonda by N9 too pls
Have to agree with kicker
you didnt rls map by n9 because you said its just a copy of Heartcore
this is just a copy of bit2, but some parts even almost didnt changed
this map isnt in any way the same as back in time 2 wtf
idk where u have your eyes but ok
just because Silex is mapping maps in this style i can not do it? xd
i dont know, i just saying that you copied it from bit2
even spawn same as bit 2 lol
show me what is the same in this map & in bit2
wtf u r crying because the spawntiles r in the same order as in bit2? o.O
but instead of < u need to go >
this is a swing part
created by me
ok i remember you good from ur another map
i wont argue with you
there is no other swing part in ddnet/teeworlds who is the same as this
of course the swing part is inspired by silex, just because i like them i can't map something like it?
your arguments r making no sense in my eyes, sry :/
you can, my friend N9 was inspired from Themix, and his map got declined because he made map which look like heartcore
this is look like bit2
this map got another background than bit2, got other parts than bit2...
i dont understand your problem
isnt the same for me
the map"style" is the same yes, but its a different map
why you making bit3
and not your own map
it is our own map
wtf r u guys blind
pls delete all maps with kill tiles because bit2 included some
pls delete all solo maps because all normal maps using a solo noobfilter
just because the swing part is inspired by silex (because we like the swing parts) theres is nothing, not a single block in the same order as in his map
and also the swingpart is not the same than any single swingpart of Silex, we created it...
usually you give maps your own touch if you are inspired of others
not plainly copy the style
if it has the same structure and the same color scheme then it's safe to say it's copied
so i cant use blue in my maps?
come on now xd you know there's more colors than blue, red and yellow
it's literally the same shades and everything
u was the one on the server few minutes ago who said nice bg, right? 😃
so i make a blue background and red tiles, ye looks pretty awesome
the only thing that is not copied from bit2, yes
so the parts are from bit2?
show me which
well if the structure/style and difficulty are the same then parts are likely similar too
bit2 is just insane because of the lenght xd
this map is not that long and because of the difficulty of the parts insane
well i can change the design, the parts r in my eyes pretty dope and NOT from bit2
or similar 😃
well from what I see they are very similar xd
not exactly the same but obviously trying to be bit2
come on, you can't just blatantly copy a map and then deny it, nobody's buying it
let silex decide
if he thinks it's fine it's ok
ready for delete
- ask Cendren 😃 we just mapped what we like and didnt copied anything... where is the problem when i map something i like? 😃
after playing bit2 10 hours per day everyday u subconsciously created a copy
how long can you keep denying it... it's obviously the same
I use an iphone everyday.. let me just make an almost identical copy and sell it as a new product
Many people connected to the server and first what they said was smth like “wow bit3 already”
Why you rly deny
90% where TOP clanmembers 😃
You saying open your eyes, but maybe it’s you who need to do that
that's not even possible
all 3 of em
hes paranoid, he started to see TOP members everywhere
how do you get 90% of 3 people to say something
well whatever... or old clanmembers (i dont know who is in it, but propably all where friends of jao) i dont get where the problem is when i map something i/we like... i already told that the design looks the same, ok maybe the structure too... but the parts are all different. did u all played the map who made an early decission or whatever? do u know if the map is good, if the map has flow or anything while watching it? 😃 there are several maps who looks the same i dont get the point why you wanna instant decline it...
there is just flame
friends of me == top members
you don't get it
it's not about whether the map is good or not
it's about that it's highly inspired
which is disrespectful to the original mapper
there r several maps who r inspired by other maps/mappers
we are talking about this map, not about others
there's a difference between "Inspired" and "I like this, I'm gonna make the exact same thing"
well i guess i cant discuss with u@Ravie
Not exactly but pretty similar
you r talking the same shit over and over again
ye you won't convince me this is not copied
you guys focus too much on words
But he just telling the true?
he does not mean everything is copied
just highly inspired
i know its about this map...
copied style, structure, design, even if parts aren't exactly tile for tile the same, they are still very simillar
idk if u are blind or something open your eyes the parts are completly different
i agree with structure & design (not all)
i wonder if there is somewhere TOP sign🤔
parts are in the same style, some are almost exactly like on bit
not as thought through
map by Silex
there is no part exactly like in bit
stop focusing so much on single words
you know what we mean
I sent you screen of one that above
It’s even placed in middle of map like bit2
show me the swing part who looks like this/who works like this in bit2
ye he has a swing part
but not this
not how this works
filter isnt the same
spawn, mate who cares about the spawn...
its jsut for standing
we are still talking about high similarities
not exact same copies
im talking about the parts
who are "copied"
ok whatever this is pointless lol
nobody could bring me a good screenshot who i can agree
you focus too much on single words
because there is nothing
yes because im mad... ppl are talking shit
i mapped this with cendren because we like it
we didnt even copied anyhting
take your time and calm down then
if it looks like bit2 ok then tell it like this
but nothing, not any fucking single shit in this map is copied
does it matter if its inspired??
well i guessed its a game to have fun for@jao
... we used time for this map (which is good, with a good flow)... for nothing :p so i can't support ddnet with maps because i like map with structures which i can't map... hmm sad...
well support is maybe the wrong word but i think u know what i mean
your mindset is so wrong
but we will wait for silex
up to him
why is it wrong
i play and map for fun
i mapped this because i like it
i mapped nightstar because i like it
but its stolen, sooooo sad
you think only about yourself :)
would i mapped this map before back in time you would decline it
now when back in time is there you would decline it because its the same xd
(which isnt, but okay)
you really can't grasp that copying others work isn't fine?
i didnt copied anything
why u dont accept that
i mapped this because i like it
again, focusing too much on single words
when u say its copied just because there is gores in it, and parts and hh / hf
you know what I mean
wtf r u talking
THIS is the reason you r argumenting with me
u said "copying others work" i said "i didnt copied anything"
just take 1 closer look to the map and u see that this map is a different map... what do u want me to say??? i already said that i agree that the structure & design might be similar
If we changed the NoobFilter, Colors, of the map, Start and End of the map, is it possible to get released
Pls take a look at@Jesus Christ
It is true though, our map is in a way inspired by Silex. It's true the Noob-filter Start and Finish are very similar to his bit maps too, but if it was changed I think our map deserves to be released. We put a lot of thought and work into it. The actual only thing that you could say we copied about the parts, is the swing part, and why not? It's a great idea. why not have it in other maps too? It would be a shame to just patent one person to this idea if others can use this idea also. Think about this, it's true you should not use the exact same parts in your own map as another mapper used in his. That's understandable. But not using it whatsoever is just unfair to us tbh.
Also about@Jesus Christ
you should handle this conversation more professional and not make the accused more angry with teasing. You just make us more mad if you talk this way and it's not helping in any way. In contrary. If you have nothing good to say don't write anything at all, but this is just dumb and disappointing what you're doing (except posting this picture which you accused us also with something that is actually not helping also)
Yes what about this screenshot? Do you want to say that this part is also copied somewhere?
from https://ddnet.tw/rules :
Try to be creative! If you copy parts from other maps, they must have been changed significantly.
Your map may not contain design or parts of design (special tilesets, color shemes, layers) taken from other maps without the original mapper's/creator's permission. Commonly used and significantly changed design elements aren't covered by this.
Ye it is but I don't rly care just change start and the others things then mb you get a chance
our "parts" are creative and not copied from Silex's maps, except for the swing part who is similar (like Cendren said, we used the idea and created a part out of it in our way, there no swing part who is similar - except for the way that u swing from one side to anouther, but that includes the word "swingpart")
about the design; we agreed as we both said, we will change it if there is a chance to get the map released.
'you should handle this conversation more professional and not make the accused more angry with teasing', werent u the one who said: 'stfu ur opinion doesnt matter ur not tester' to kicker?
Than we will get to work and change these things.
<@456226577798135808> i think that if most of the players have the impression they are playing on the same map of another series, than you took TOO MUCH inspiration. if, on the other hand, players can feel this map is inspired by another one but they can realize they are playing on a completely different series, than its ok
I see you are trying to switch this on me nice one. Still in discord at least you should be more professional. This is only my opinion. If nobody of the leaders of the community and others care about this fine, but I do so I kindly pointed this out to you
dont try to correct others if u cant handle it urself
who the hell r u??? have u anything to say here? no, pls be quiet. thx ❤
I can handle it alright it's not that. I just think it's pointless to talk to some one who is mad in this way. You know you make him more mad and that's just hurtful and mean. Stop it Jesus
this guy is annoying af
Sorry to ask, but who are you exactly?
i'll answer as long as you can tell me how is that related to the point i made
the point you made is clear and we will work on the map, we just asked us who u r^^
So are you going to say I just want to know who I'm dealing with here. You made some good points just wanted to know.
And again, what was the point of saying this here. So unprofessional. I don't get you people sometimes.
it was just wrong chat
You still didn't answer my question.
if you really want to go off-topic on your own map thread, fine let's go off-topic
read this article
and other ones
and learn how to make a rational conversation
i'm off now.
good that wikipedia is a troll website where any 8 year old kid can write some stuff xd
Rls my Map pls
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i like the background
took my time to optimize the map. should be releasable like that
this troll >.> ... but looks awesome 😄
Map by Silex thanks to Li Cendren and corneum
since jao want me to decide, i'm against rls of that and i got to agree with pretty much all other people here (except the mapper)
i don't want a map rlsd on ddnet already which is in my plans for the next months/years
well, we decided to rework the map, Silex dont have a patent on maps without tele (or on the parts we created) so you will hear from us soon
here or hear?
don't dare to act like someone here done something to you und your fake map and act like someone said i have patent on non tele parts, how can you be such a kid and just don't accept that the map you did here is not the same like a own made map rather just a cheap remake .. xd no one did say anything against a rework of that thing
this wasn't anything against you, chill your panties... 😉
sweet u wanna try to insult me now? 😃
it was a question
you should answer your role model to that question
if you try to fake something
better make it good
if u try to insult me, try harder, as i said 😃
mate you r crying because of 1 little design bug XD
who is the kid here
basically in the whole map
i'm not a kid, just a person who think you should know that u need to make that look better as Li Design pro
i'm trying to help but he's just trolling
no, its just funny that u dont know when to stop... typically 12 yo kiddo 😃
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<@456226577798135808> i'm serious, can you tell my why you think everyone else here is wrong and you are right?
but i guess i won't get a normal answer to that also
we agreed... what is your problem? ... but our parts r our parts and they r not stolen like ravie said...
we like your map... i mean we are playing it everyday to finish it... so we were inspired and did this map
Hi Guys :)
After the last "bankruptcy" we decided to revise the map. We just changed on some parts only small things but some parts are completely exchanged, we have given the map a twist to get even more away of the back in time (2) feeling. I have tested the map with a few people, including jao - I didn't want to stand there again as if I had copied everything ..., asked for his opinion and decided to present this map to you so you can test it. I hope you like the map now and you will find it as we also cool. 😗
Is der gores da den ich wollte?
maybe before but now i guess not 😉
15 TH15 bock in t1m9 2.1
i don't want my map name in that
this isnt in the newest version 😮
small changes/fixes 😃
junge das war ein witz
er fixt halt echt
ik xd but ye 😄
delete the dummy drag swing part
+, kinda copied from bit2 xd
he didn't change shit in that part
Mapstyle is different
Swing part is different
I dont see any problem
yes, the map looks like bit2 but when u play it you will see that this isnt bit2
i won't play it
delete swing part
syltoox, can you shut the fuck up? you said your opinion, i talk with the mapper
Who are u to tell him deleting parts
his role model
who are you to tell me mapstyle and swing part is different?
Since ur backintime maps, swing parts are forbidden lol
An normal drag is lame af
U arent the 1st one who thought of these swings
can you tell me the difference between his swing part and mine
U have to hook him out again after he is in a hole next to kill
Then solo going to end of part w a lil swing
Urs is made different
U cant keep saying that swings are only urs
Many guys had this idea
Only cause u made it "1st" its forbidden
I didn't said that and i wasn't even the 1st do a swing part
look above nobo
U literally keep swing parts 4 u
you do excactly the same in this map like in bit2
that's all i can say to it
and i wont discuss
that with you
How is it the same XD
Dragging a player while he holds hook = bit2
not what i said, don't try to fool me
U literally said it
Its exactly the same
you swing from left do right and otherwise like 3-4-5 times and then get the tee out from a whole, THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME
Should he swing up?
Left right only ways xd
go tell us if swing part can stay
discussion with a dumb nobody is time wasting
ye better make it your own
Im ok with changing the part/replace the part - its pretty sad, i really like that part
Yeah im sure you like it
Makes fun of it lmao
should i not like my part?
*- changed the start, because it was skipable
- fixed some small design bugs
- freeze is lighter now
- replaced the drag part
- small fixes on some parts to make them better*
Yes, my part 😃 just because u have several parts of this type in your maps doesnt make my part yours...
can someone ban silex from this channel
he useless here
i wouldnt say that, but some of his comments r just useless in my eyes
and because of some good t0 maps hes acting like "the king"
just be happy that you can still play on ddnet and stfu 🤖
ye im king of the north
jon snow my name
seriously what is your mission? what have i done to you? o.O
i won't explain it again, just read everything above maybe u will get a smarter person then
and it seems like i am not the only one thinking like this, or do you see the map released on the server already?
so don't act like i'm the only person saying that
its not about what you r saying about the map, its about how u say it
you act like you r perfect and nobody else can do anything
but whatever i dont will response to your childish behavior... i did what u wanted, the drag part is replaced, so ye 😃
Silex and Ravie have the same mental disfunction
why should i be polite to you?
i think this is the wrong channel to discuss that 😃
you made a cheap fake (i talk about old version) and tried to rls it as yours xd why, why should i be polite to you
nvm it get's boring
nightstar serie was before your maps, was also a oldschool map without tele
the map had the same reaction than yours, 2 weeks of full servers and then? just a few teams r playing it
well... now give critism or w me private for your personal problems
yeah Li, my back in maps was only 2 weeks full XD sure
why r u here in this channel
why r u here in this world
there the child
can u ban him from this channel?
hes just annoying
no talk/critism/... about the map
most time you don't even react to any critism dude
what r u talking
it needed like 100 people to tell you it is a bit2 fake
thats what im talking
mate, did u got a brain or something near that?
your map is a poor attempt to copy one of godlike silex maps
just kill yourseldf
when 20 people r just bashing yo... of course you block everything
Silex is just a dumb child... nothing more or less
when he could decide i would never release a map, the quality of the map doesnt count
only reason why i'm not tester is because of the timewasting with people like you
poor jao, true...
now, stfu and stop annoying me 😃
map is actually pretty bad now
don't know if we can rls like that
like yours ❤
like you ❤
so much similarities ❤
are you gay?
or why the hearts
there r no words for you xd
In fact stealing someone's other work is rude, Silex has to be a god mapper for you otherwise you wouldnt copy 1:1 his map roflmao!!!!!
Well I don’t let them bash me... those r just random comments in my eyes, has nothing to do with the map on the current version, so whatever 🤷🏼♂️ there are many players who like this map, so I will not hear to my haters 😉
No matter what you do it will always be seen as a Silex map
And thats no personal hate, it's just an objective POV
Finished or is there something more coming?
It isn’t a silex map... wtf
Maybe before but not on this version...
But whatever I say here, I will talk to a wall because nobody is listening to me, well maybe some of you
If you like Silex's mapping style that much why not just coop with him and make a map together instead of just copying? Just a logical thinking mind is seeing that there are of course ideas by cendren & you but based on Silex in the end
How is it based on silex
compare this map with back in time 2
The structure looks just the same
I didn't look at the map , but it comes to a time where every maps has to be inspired by another one as every concepts already have been used
Like u can't say that Barren is inspired by Purple Panic
Barrem isnt even inspired of ot lmao
How has it any similarity to purple panic
use your brain
only drag parts , no stupid fillers
Every 500ddmax has drag xd
ye but i took the most famous ddmax who cares about this
I dont see any problem in this map. Looks okay and kinda fun 4 me. Only structure seems inspired now. But that shouldnt be a problem
he got a point with that... actually 😂 I just map maps without Tele, like bumblebee or nightstar... so I copied nightstar because bumblebee was released before nightstar
isn't bumblebee by u ? XD
You can't steal your own work
U cant steal edgehooks aoe found them Lol
thats what i meant and now u say it fuck u lmfao 😭
"lmfao 😭 "
should leave it up to@Silex
if he is fine with it or not
😭 is commonly used to laugh digga
This guy makes me laugh so hard
but offtopic who cares
of course he wouldn’t agree xd
U stole the idea of solo part and just added laser
Right now i see only one problem
did you ask whether it would be fine to steal it?@Haon
The parts where u have to throw a guy up and laser him. Some guys will uroboros and fail lol
what is uroboros
Wtf gwendal 😂
I guess i intended the word uroboros very much at the beginning
what u mean with your question?
It's obvious that it's very similar to back in time 2 do you agree on this
Only structure similar lol
This version is a different map
Why now back in the days? Didn’t we talk about back in time? - or you...
There isn't a big difference anyway
he also the guy who basically playing only bit maps all the time
nice new fact, its not like that i said 10 times that i like his maps?
😂 😂 😂
- design bug (fixed some corners)
other map was wrong
nice funvote "bit3 faker" ... 😉 how old r u?
*- newest version but I'm still working with Silex on it but u can test it :)
- laser deleted
- some parts are fixed/replaced*
- small changes
Besides that savalic seems incapable of accepting any critique, the map is okay. Just don't like the fact that the fillers in the first bit have no space to spec for more than 4 parts in a row. If two people play it there are edges and whatnot that are good, but not well designed for teams with more than two people. Parts somewhat similiar in the first bit, after the drag its nice. Besides that one hooktrough 1tile part, seems kinda off compared to the others. Ps Savalic: You said I didn't even test the map once, I've tested it about 2 days ago allready. But you didn't seem Interested in any kind of cirtique and just rq'ed the server. 😂
- again some changes after testing with Freezestyler
you didnt even brought one single critique on the server, dont blame me now for that... map is shit ..., designed for 2 tees but for bigger tees ..., (isnt critique for me)
Maybe you got my point wrong, It was more like. Space for only two tees and not balanced for bigger teams.
To say that the map is trash is my fault I agree with that tho, just don't like the parts till the first drag, they are just annoying to play in my oppinion
no i got it right, but u dont have to like it, right? ;) when u said "the map is shit, because when ddos is active you would fail"... how in the hell should i take you serious? xd (and u said exactly this on the server)
*again a release
- fixed some bugs
- few changes on some parts
- end is different now*
Uhm no, I didn't say the map is shit because when ddos is active its fail. I said that no space to stand on for several parts make parts annoying to play especially while ddnet is getting ddossed. It seems like you have major problems to understand some sentences. I gave good reasoning and you kept missunderstanding simple points. While telling me, I have no idea what I am talking about. But keep it up dude, seems like you really can't accept any kind of critique. self-confidence is good but you put yourself on some kind of throne with thinking everything you assume is correct. You missunderstood me, and don't say no. I just told you 4 times now, why I think the parts are not well designed for teams with more than two players and you keep thinking that I tried to say something diffrent. I think you don't take the whole concept of map testing serious enoug. Why should it be public if people try to tell you what they think its badly managed? Makes no sense since there is no offical map testing team anymore. I will stop this discussion now, I told you what I think makes the whole first bit till the drag annoying to play. Ignore it if you want, I don't mind. I am just trying to help people to make maps more enjoyable for some players. If you don't want the help I would also suggest to ask jao to make the testing private like some other maps were. Because you seem to not take other players that test your maps serious, why would you make testing public. There is no reason for that. Have a good night.
- replaced 2 parts
*again some fixes
- placed solo/unsolo at start in a other way
- changed the last part a bit*
I hope this is my last update now xd
Fixes: *- fixed some small things on parts to make them better
some parts have now more space to chill/wait
tight parts have also more space
fixed the last part, there where one little thing that annoyed me
fixed some design bugs
there shouldn't be parts in the map that are similar to any Silex (bit / bitd series or bits) parts
map got a good flow i think but im not sure if its brut 5 star or insane 1-2 star - propably in the mid (insane 1 star) i guess
hopefully you enjoy the map now*
New version after testing with triki 😃
Tested with Miasuke & Mizkibo (found a lot of bugs lel) Also fixed the screenshot of Jesus Christ
Upon a closer look at this map, there's no denying it's a Bit2 clone (down to details like freeze style, stoppers at spawn or the way finish room is placed). There are no particularly fresh or creative parts and there is nothing in this map that Bit2 doesn't do better. It literally is just a worse Bit2, that doesn't really bring anything new to the table. In conclusion I am against releasing it.
Well I get your point, but i think that a lot of player would like this map... It's a good map in my eyes and worth to be released :/ I asked Silex and he would be ok if the map would be released
It's not about Silex, I just don't think we need a worse version of another map released.
how is it worse
how is it better
i like it and i hope it will be rlsd :c
this map wants to be a team 0 map but doesn't really accomplish that. parts are too stretched out and faily and the map doesn't have a lot safe spots. team 0 maps live from going step by step and occasionally back and forth to rescue others. that doesn't work if players die when they fail or if going back is impossible/means wasting a good amount of time. also this map will always be in bit's shadow and therefore probably not perceived well by players. I doubt it would get much attention from anyone other than the mappers and their friends. you should keep making maps in your style rather than trying to copy someone else