09:56 < bridge> [teeworlds] @Fisico sorry for repeatig my self. But i never put any file into the other folder. If SDL is globally installed with brew all works fine out of the box if u freshly clone it. Do you use the homebrew package manager on mac? 10:13 < bridge> [teeworlds] Oy: i think the old storage is even worse because the $DATADIR is missing and the app is not working aswell 10:13 < bridge> [teeworlds] 10:13 < bridge> [teeworlds] `` 10:14 < bridge> [teeworlds] [5bfe5c02][storage]: using standard paths 10:14 < bridge> [teeworlds] [5bfe5c02][storage]: added path '$USERDIR' ('/Users/chillerdragon/Library/Application Support/Teeworlds') 10:14 < bridge> [teeworlds] [5bfe5c02][storage]: added path '$CURRENTDIR' ('/Users/chillerdragon/Desktop') 10:14 < bridge> [teeworlds] `` 10:14 < bridge> [teeworlds] 10:14 < bridge> [teeworlds] does irc even has the code format thing? 10:37 < bridge> [teeworlds] No, @ChillerDragon. Don't use it here 10:38 < bridge> [teeworlds] And Oy is not here 11:41 < Teeworlds> [teeworlds] Dune-jr opened pull request #1740: Fix some warnings (master...fix-warnings) https://git.io/fp2cr 14:53 < bridge> [teeworlds] rand: wouldn't you prefer a scrollbar? just asking 14:59 < rand> dunno, it sounds like the (second) easier UI solution 15:00 < rand> I'm not sure it would be good for user experience 15:01 < bridge> [teeworlds] The one you made without any tabs/scrollbars looks fine to me 15:05 < rand> the last one ? 15:06 < rand> I have to make something when there is 16 to 32 players and 33 to 48 players then 15:07 < rand> the spectator part for the scoreboard can also be discussed 15:11 < rand> I cropped it to 4 lines (as the original scoreboard) but I didn't add '…' to signal it 17:44 < Teeworlds> [teeworlds] LordSk opened pull request #1741: Fixed broadcast not being shown when scoreboard/motd is active (master...fix/broadcast_scoreboard) https://git.io/fp2hB 17:57 < bridge> [teeworlds] 17:57 < bridge> [teeworlds] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490150878934990850/517383497174876160/unknown.png 17:57 < bridge> [teeworlds] rand: "X other players" is cropped 17:59 < bridge> [teeworlds] need to change that: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/4cae6900e56004a2722a65bd1857b6de5baa4459/src/game/client/components/scoreboard.cpp#L574 19:23 < Dune> heyy Landil :) 19:24 < Landil> hej Dune 19:24 < Dune> lil landils giving you a break? 19:24 < Dune> :D 19:24 < Landil> what's the next hot topic 19:24 < Dune> severak 19:25 < Dune> https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1390 19:25 < Dune> we need graphics to indicate bots 19:25 < Landil> :rollingeyes: not really *muhaawaaaah* 19:25 < Dune> oy proposed an antenna iirc 19:25 < Dune> haha 19:25 < Landil> maybe a robot skin? 19:25 < Dune> ideally only a part 19:25 < Dune> so they can still have custom skins :) 19:26 < Dune> could be decoration 19:26 < Dune> there's also this but you already discussed a while ago: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1732 19:27 < Landil> Dune ... step by step please 19:27 < Landil> what's THE hottest topic I should have a look at? 19:27 < Dune> hmmm 19:27 < Dune> well we're sort of done with the *necessary* gfx for the release 19:28 < Dune> there's UI design if you do that too 19:28 < Dune> but no gfx necessary for 0.7.1 19:30 < Landil> gimme some screenshots on which I can have a look at pls 19:31 < Dune> mm 19:32 < Dune> http://puu.sh/C9aKm/20db2aa6e8.jpg 19:32 < Dune> this is for the UI 19:32 < Dune> we would kind of like to have the join/disconnect buttons more readily accessible 19:34 < Dune> but the reset button is annoying =p 19:43 < Landil> maybe one could use an "undo arrow" instead 19:43 < Landil> hummmm 19:44 < Landil> like ctrl+z in most applications 19:44 < bridge> [teeworlds] that's a bunch of code 19:45 < bridge> [teeworlds] I think reset is useful regardless 19:45 < bridge> [teeworlds] sometimes you fuck up with the settings, right 19:45 < Landil> something like this 19:45 < Landil> https://www.shutterstock.com/sv/image-vector/refresh-engine-vector-icon-style-flat-325580300?src=8UGERBlEQtTqD2tY7elv3g-1-1 19:46 < Landil> but then this would be the only icon on the settings menu 19:46 < Landil> I don 19:46 < Landil> not like that 19:47 < Landil> well I cannot think of a solution better than the given one 19:47 < Landil> icon + button? 19:48 < Dune> hmm 19:48 < Dune> well there could be two layers of buttons 19:49 < Dune> https://i.imgur.com/0ilCu38.png 19:52 < bridge> [teeworlds] Since when we need an icon for everything 19:56 < Landil> @sonix the more icons the less translation 19:57 < Landil> localisation is the worst feature ever 19:57 < Landil> lessons learned 19:57 < bridge> [teeworlds] also icons are cool 19:59 < Landil> you can clearly see the advantage of an icon at this screenshot https://i.imgur.com/0ilCu38.png How do you want to make it clear that the reset is related to the settings and not the disconnect? 19:59 < Dune> but then where would you put the icon? on every single line? 20:09 < Landil> https://imgur.com/a/TNVyXuT 20:10 < bridge> [teeworlds] what's the use of the icon then, if I may ask? 20:12 < Landil> to make sure ppl understand that this is a reset settings button 20:13 < Landil> https://imgur.com/2GGpD7J does not look that cool 20:14 < Landil> but it is possible 20:14 < Landil> besides I am not that happy with the buttons at the bottom 20:15 < Landil> but I really like the new design :thumbs up: 20:28 < bridge> [teeworlds] The buttons at the bottom are just bad 20:29 < bridge> [teeworlds] any other solution to have a way to join/disconnect without moving the mouse everywhere on the screen? :/ 20:37 < bridge> [teeworlds] 20:37 < bridge> [teeworlds] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490150878934990850/517423755706892289/test_igmenu.png 21:03 < bridge> [teeworlds] so put the buttons on top? I'd love it 21:03 < bridge> [teeworlds] there is the "only x allowed" message there right now though 22:03 < rand> I don't know how I assume things were done at some point 22:06 < bridge> [teeworlds] don't put buttons back to the top pls :/ 22:08 < bridge> [teeworlds] I like this approuch here, but the icon should be simplefied https://imgur.com/2GGpD7J 22:10 < bridge> [teeworlds] we already have a reset icon btw. it's included in the sidebar image .png 22:17 < bridge> [teeworlds] I'd suggest to keep reset text but add the icon additionally inside current or even to the left of current extending by the size of 1:1 22:18 < bridge> [teeworlds] @Zatline I don't understand why those buttons should be at the bottom 22:18 < bridge> [teeworlds] it's awful for the accessibility 22:18 < bridge> [teeworlds] the mouse travels everywhere for basic stuff 22:18 < bridge> [teeworlds] I don't think so I'm pretty used to it from other games 22:18 < bridge> [teeworlds] just a matter of getting used to 22:19 < bridge> [teeworlds] maybe 22:21 < bridge> [teeworlds] take Battlefield games as exampl 3 & 4 in particular these games inspired me a lot I love the UI there ^^ 22:21 < bridge> [teeworlds] I don't know how these games are 22:22 < bridge> [teeworlds] see u just not very used to it I guess 22:22 < rand> hm 22:23 < rand> I feel like Dune, choosing a game menu at top, then go down is a movement that was useless before 22:24 < rand> maybe I will change my mind too 22:29 < bridge> [teeworlds] https://gyazo.com/a462fbdc9a2b0d9a511e199c688b61be 22:29 < bridge> [teeworlds] https://gyazo.com/f59e8f83ca641f18e152c8f56d9a62c6 22:31 < rand> can you change team while in a game in BattleField ? 22:32 < bridge> [teeworlds] yes you could but they I think changed that with Battledield 1 and now Battlediel V I have not found the option there 22:33 < bridge> [teeworlds] the thing is battlefield doesn't seem to have *tabs* 22:34 < bridge> [teeworlds] here, in order to click join/disconnect, you first have to move your mouse to the upper side of the screen, click game, then move all the way down and click disconnect 22:35 < bridge> [teeworlds] in bf u disconnect by going into the game menu so disconnect actually isn't there untill u hit esc first 22:35 <@Dune_> you understand the problem with teeworlds then? 22:36 < bridge> [teeworlds] Damn gotta travel 10 days to reach the bottom with my slow ass sens 😁 22:36 < bridge> [teeworlds] which kinda makes sense since when u want to leave / close an app u often hit escape to do so 22:36 <@Dune_> yeah but in teeworlds if you hit escape you may very well be somewhere in the menus 22:38 < bridge> [teeworlds] well I don't want to have a bottem cluster at the top while on the bottem is nothing I tryied to structure the mene evenly and use all space available which gives it a very clean look 22:38 < bridge> [teeworlds] and since I'm very used to deploy at the bottem I don't rly mind too much 22:38 < bridge> [teeworlds] deploying at the bottom isn't a problem when you don't have to click somewhere on the top first 22:40 < bridge> [teeworlds] deployment is part of the "game" menu not of the settings menu, so there is no need to have it shown while beeing in the settings menu 22:40 < bridge> [teeworlds] but you understand the accessibility problem? 22:41 < bridge> [teeworlds] that of disconnect yea but that's it and there is an easy solution to it 22:41 < bridge> [teeworlds] and spectate? 22:42 < bridge> [teeworlds] why would u want to hit spectate when u in the setting menu? again .. it's not part of settings and so you shouldn't be able to click it in the first place lol 22:43 < bridge> [teeworlds] u don't go in the settings menu to spectate, you go in settings to change a setting 22:43 <@Dune_> yes, of course 22:43 <@Dune_> but a normal usecase would be Escape -> click a button to join/spectate/disconnect, right? 22:45 < bridge> [teeworlds] yea that button is ESC when playing u always start in the game menu 22:45 <@Dune_> in teeworlds, this is not what happens when you press ESC 22:45 <@Dune_> you go to whatever menus you were in last 22:45 < bridge> [teeworlds] if u then go into settings and close and hit esc again u reset at the game menu 22:45 < rand> this should change at least 22:45 <@Dune_> yeah, rand 22:46 < bridge> [teeworlds] @Zatline no? I don't think so at least 22:46 < bridge> [teeworlds] if you go to settings, then close, then ESC, you go back to settings. 22:46 < bridge> [teeworlds] that's the problem 22:46 < bridge> [teeworlds] u should reset to game 22:46 < bridge> [teeworlds] fix either and it's fine by me 22:47 < bridge> [teeworlds] in 0.6 it does not reset to game and it is fine 22:47 < bridge> [teeworlds] because the buttons are on top 22:47 < bridge> [teeworlds] the idea of having the buttons permanently there is that you can have the "save position in settings" functionality + easy access of important functions 22:48 < bridge> [teeworlds] but if we have to make it that Esc always sends to "Game" I'm fine with that too :) 22:48 < bridge> [teeworlds] it should solve the confuision problem 22:49 < bridge> [teeworlds] I myself are confused when going into settings hit esc ... play a bit then later want to disconnect and I suddenly in settings 22:50 <@Dune_> https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1698 22:50 <@Dune_> this is the issue 22:50 < bridge> [teeworlds] it's weird u should always land in game default 22:51 < bridge> [teeworlds] yea and we had that discussion already and I suggested waht I'm suggestung rn ^^ 22:51 < bridge> [teeworlds] yea we had that discussion already and I suggested waht I'm suggestung rn ^^ 22:54 < bridge> [teeworlds] get rig of spectate, demo, joined buttoms when being in setting they don't belong there, default esc to game and everything should be fine 22:54 < bridge> [teeworlds] get rig of spectate, demo, joined buttons when being in setting they don't belong there, default esc to game and everything should be fine 22:56 < bridge> [teeworlds] well there are two solutions to this problem