00:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <pilonpl> Ddnet web 3.0 update
00:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <lynn> i was wondering about cloudflare is all
00:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <pilonpl> Happy new day
00:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <pilonpl> Anyway, account would be great
00:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <pilonpl> Free points scams will start
00:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <pilonpl> "give me your password and i will earn you points"
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> games rely on custom protocols
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> that cloudflare doesnt know about
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> and honestly its often good they use custom protocols, they are better optimized for the use case
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> QUIC is transport layer, so it doesn't help us in that aspect sadly
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> its just that evil ppl exist
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> and they ruin it all
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> spectre and meltdown
00:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> reduced cpu efficiency by 60%
00:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> kekw
00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I had the most bizarre the world is small moment a second ago
00:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I was looking into a way to split a private key into pieces, stumbled upon a security.stackexchange answer. The answer mentions heinrich5991
00:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/168055/protecting-a-private-key-by-spreading-it-over-multiple-places
00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <lynn> well still im of the opinion that managing the protocol to be somewhat resilient to attacks is of interest to us in particular
00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <lynn> having been attacked a ton of times
00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <lynn> but i understand it might just be a losing battle
00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <lynn> i know very little about networking
00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> There is one thing QUIC will help with, that's proxying which is the only hope I see to our attack issues
00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <lynn> ah
00:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> thats pog
00:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i think i seen this before tho
00:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Learath2
00:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1010313934835818616/unknown.png
00:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> just check the conversation
00:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I really want to do some accounts stuff,  the only thing stopping me is the task being a massive unsplittable chunk
00:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> hi, how does map downloading works precisely (network-wise)
00:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> on ddnet do you fetch it through any web server? lol
00:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> It checks maps.ddnet.tw, if it doesn’t find it there it falls back to fast download from the gameserver
01:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Fast-download utilizes a “hack” of sorts, the server doesnt wait for the clients request for the next chunk to arrive, it’ll just send <map-window> many of them at a time
01:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> Average pps for a client depends ig so
01:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Fast-download fallback should be almost never taken on an official server, but it can happen
03:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <lynn> yoooo heinrich moment
03:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> `tcpdump -vvnnX -i any ip and host 149.202.19.227`
03:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> 
03:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> `sv_conn_logging_server "8.7.6.5"`
03:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> 
03:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> I do not see any output on the tcpdump console
03:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> `tcpdump -vvnnX -i any ip and host 149.202.19.227`
03:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> 
03:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> `sv_conn_logging_server "149.202.19.227"`
03:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> 
03:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> I do not see any output on the tcpdump console
03:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> `tcpdump -vvnnX -i any ip and host 149.202.19.227`
03:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> 
03:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> `sv_conn_logging_server "149.202.19.227"`
03:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> 
03:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> I do not see any output on the tcpdump command
03:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <louis> how do i change the "DM" or "CTF" mode in serverbrowser to something else
03:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> sv_gamemode ?
03:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <louis> no i mean to something custom like "abc" for example
03:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> @louis well ddnet it is defined here : 
03:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/src/game/server/gamemodes/DDRace.cpp#L14
03:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> sv_gametype ?
03:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> @louis (and for vanilla `https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/adc6c4a35d22240c670be95c778a7ddffb63bfc0/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L1610`)
06:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Cipy29> Woah that's crazy
07:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Tater> heinrich is Adi Shamir?
07:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yes, heinrich is just a cover name to sound more german
08:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> Heinrich is time traveler from the year 5991
09:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> the libpng maintainer is dead :/
09:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <peace> hey, can someone give me a hookfly bind with dummy
12:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> @Patiga where does that svg come from?
12:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> or is that just an png as svg?
12:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Patiga> its this one https://ddnet.tw/explain/game-png/
12:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Patiga> the scripts and readme are in ddnet-web/explain-layers
12:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but why do we have that xD
12:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> who made it
12:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Patiga> zwelf created most of it
12:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Patiga> I did the other half-ish
12:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Patiga> lets say quarter at this point ^^
12:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i mean u created the svg?
12:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Patiga> zwelf did the svg
12:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> @Zwelf where do u have the svg from? 😄
12:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Patiga> I created the initial script for the data that the svg uses, zwelf replaced it
12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but its no real svg is it?
12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Zwelf> Yeah, its generated with python: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web/pull/214
12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> it kinda looks blury
12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Zwelf> The background image is png
12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ah ok 😄
12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Zwelf> only the hover effect is svg
12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-data-svg/pull/32/files
12:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> bcs we also have a svg, but without the new shields yet
12:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> we should finally decide if the shields go to extra.png
12:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> @c0d3d3v what was the last status on this?
12:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> u wanted to have some compact extra.png right=
13:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ravie> I have the redesigned shield in extras.svg but it's still not clear if this feature will stay or not
13:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ok, if we do it we should decide it, it doesnt matter when we implement it, its really just so we don't release maps with shields and community starts to custimize the game.png
13:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> if we move it to extra.png we should not release maps until then
13:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> maps with shields
13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ravie> well they've been in the game for a while and I haven't even seen a single map with them submitted
13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yes^^
13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> konsti probs uses them in his map
16:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <hussainx3> wow!! everyday  new update:brownbear: 
16:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <hussainx3> god bless u guys , we appreciate it:heartw:
17:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <louis> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1010567737413746838/unknown.png
17:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <louis> how do i get these random chinese servers off the top of my server list, i cant even join them to move them down via ping
17:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <louis> i guess they are getting free real estate in the browser 😅
17:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Hm, geolocation gets it wrong sometimes. I don't know how heinrich manually changed them
17:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Chairn> just sort by players
18:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> @Learath2 any idea for that one?
18:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> You are supposed to use a unix socket
18:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> oh
19:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <game of enstitü> https://youtu.be/CLspbDWD2A0 video yayında
19:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> spam
19:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Discord Mod
19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <game of enstitü> https://youtu.be/CLspbDWD2A0 video yayında
20:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> chillerdragon:
21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Chairn> @Learath2 did you post this 😄 
21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Chairn> <https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/wt90ga/i_love_me_some_electron_app/>
21:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> No but I'll give him an upvote
22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Alexander> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1010639531957047437/unknown.png
22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Zwelf> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1010644397303533608/IMG_20220820_221701.jpg
22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> ima\_022810a.jpeg
22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1010644461656756306/ima_022810a.jpeg
22:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Happy meetup @Zwelf chillerdragon 😄