07:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] my game jumps to 144fps after like 10-20s. I can get back to 1000 by tabbing out-in. Bug? 07:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] latest version. These are the settings 07:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/891553315635208242/unknown.png 07:37 < s_ssss> hello 10:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @conny maybe SDL thinks that you are not actively in the game. Try cl_refresh_rate_inactive 0 12:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] i cant turn off chat notifications in editor right? \:( 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] dont make maps in-game 14:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] You always have the oddest feature requests that I can't imagine anyone else ever using 14:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] just use /dnd chillerdragon 14:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah right 14:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] gerdoe 🧠 14:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] @fokkonaut\: when add /dnd in fddr 14:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] lmao 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] hm, why is dnd a server command anyway? 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] germany voting today :monkalaugh: 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] I regret the day I installed mono on my server, what an absolute mess of a project 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] C# 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] it has hastag in the name it must be trending 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 ye it sucks hard 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] c# itself sucks 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] i cant install mods on linux for kerbal space program 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] I wonder who'll take the win, SPD was performing very well in the latest polls after the greens destroyed their lead 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] because mono has some bug 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] why dafaq u know ger politics? 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] is there any anti-europe political leader in germany that has chances? 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] that would be hilarious 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] cuz germany is the heart of europe right 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] chillerdragon did u vote 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] watfak 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] ? 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] Wat 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] Politix 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] well chiller u should know german politics are kinda important for europe as a whole 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] i sok politics 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] I enjoy politics in general, I like the EU, Germany is like technically the EU, so it's natural I follow their politics 😄 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] Politics sok 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] Usually 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] i didnt vote yet 14:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you don't vote I'll bonk you, people not voting is the cancer of modern democracies 14:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] eh well 14:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] sometimes there just isnt any good option 14:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] lately i feel like that here 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] in germany they have proportional representation, there is always an option 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] unless you are a nazi, nazi parties aren't allowed, so I can see there not being an option in that case 😛 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] proportional ye, but for example catalonia is way more progressive minded than all other spain regions, and since we belong to spain at the end of the day we cant do shit 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] people who do not vote are apparently not interested in their future 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://twitter.com/TheFckngSameMa1 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] i love this twitter account 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] I didn't look into spanish politics much, but if you have proportional representation at the country scale, you absolutely can vote for more progressive candidates 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] \/parties 14:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] spanish politicians that say they are "leftist" (but i consider them far right) are against catalonia as is 14:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] the thing is 14:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] being anti-catalan brings lots of votes 14:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] from spain 14:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] so they are all anti catalan 14:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] Being pro-catalan is probably political suicide ngl, supporting a technically separatist movement is such an extremely dangerous move 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/891665981527695390/unknown.png 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] isnt it funny 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] how catalonia 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] is always different color 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] in the election results 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] but ultimately we cant change anything 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] nsdap :troll: 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] (catalonia is top right) 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] we know ryo 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] well maybe u dont 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont know russia 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] or ur country 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] cataluns are right-top wing :trollq 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] :troll: 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] :admiralMC: 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] okey polit jokes are too unfunny 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] without troll emoji 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] The situation in spain seems very unworkable to me, I honestly don't know what should be done with these enclaves in different countries 14:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 spain should be more federalist and it would work more 14:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] but they are focused on being rly centralized 14:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] is spain a federation atm? 14:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 14:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] we have "autonomous communities" 14:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's the main problem then 14:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] but ultimately everything goes through madrid 14:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] and the main gov 14:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] we cant do major laws 14:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's pain in ass to move into federation from unitary country 14:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] look at ukraine with their maidan 14:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] also being federation means there can be some wars in country 14:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] Federations are just not popular, that's the issue. Even suggesting the notion in turkey lost erdogan 10%. In the UK just the possibility of an alliance with SNP lost Labour a lot of vote in worker towns 14:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] like chechnya in 90s russia 14:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeai just want independence 14:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] and also tatarstan 14:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] but we outmoved them with our own constitution kekw 14:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] You want independence, but is it really feasible? Doesn't Catalonia generate a vast majority of the economic income for Spain? 14:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] we do and they treat us like shit xd 14:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] There is no way they will let you go, so I think the goal should be more to make federal structures more popular amongst the mainstream 14:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] haha 14:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] u cant change them from inside 14:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] they collectively go againstu s 14:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] kill 'em :troll: 14:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] any democracy wont help here 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] they always using the excuse "lets vote for catalan independence but in all spain not just in catalonia" 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] xdddd 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] just make your own polls 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] like russia did with that land in urkaine 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] we did make one ilegal referendum and got beaten by police while going to vote 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] bruh 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] i was there 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Catalan_independence_referendum 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] then im getting why cataluns have separatists thoughts 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] You most definitely don't have the gun power or the man power to get out. You don't have popular support from outside Spain creating pressure. The only way I can see it happen is changing peoples minds 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] well some people think russia may help us 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] since russia wants to create havoc 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] in europe 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] xdd 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] they are wrong xd 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] @gerdoe doesnt putin like to meddle with europe 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] meddle? 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] You know what would have been great? Scotland leaving the UK and joining the EU on their own. That would set a nice precedent, maybe some global recognition for separatist movements 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice word never seen that one kekw 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] "create political instability in europe" 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] wai a second 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] there is no profit in making that shit 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah all catalan pro indep support scotland obviously 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk bro 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] catalonia 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] is in a position 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ehe? There is enormous profit in that shit. Increase tensions inside the EU so the eastern block aligns/trades with you 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] between spain and france 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] a rly good point for geopolitics 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] they are anyway working with russia more 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] Having satellite states is immensely profitable 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] this cant happen, nobody in Europe would support that 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] but since we have no good prom just interrupting in eu will make nothing 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] prom? 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] France cant support this as its equivalent to shooting itself with its own independentist (Corsica & Brittain) 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] *industry 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ryozuki: what about going ETA 😄 ? 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't mean convincing the political elite, they have their own goals. Convincing the people is what is important. With time anything is possible 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] sometimes i have thougths about some bombs would do good :monkalaugh: 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] but thats after getting beaten by police just for going to vote 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] anyone would hate them 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] u rly dont know them 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] they rly like beating catalans 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] they send police all from spain 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] give them some cocaine 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] let the rain start 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] A federal europe would be such a good idea, but the political elite don't want to give up power, and their huge propaganda arms spend millions on convincing the public that federation = bad 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] so is beating a national sport? 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] and ppl from their cities yell 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] "a por ellos oeoeoe!! 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] aka "go for them!!!" 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] as if they were going into a war 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] hilarious 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] when the police leave their own cities 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] s\/hilarious/awful ? 😄 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] to come to catalonia 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe Catalonia is their traning camp 😄 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM_e_RvXsik 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] proof 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] "a por ellos" 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] when police was leaving their own city 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] imagine federation for small countries kekw (without ethic small provinces in it tho) 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] to come to catalonia 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] Chinese do the same too, they use police forces from different parts of the country to suppress riots in others. It's a very very efficient strategy 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] USA do the same 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] they use white people to beat black people 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] very efficient 😄 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] off-topic kekw 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah its better to bring brain washed ppl by local media to the place where they tell u they do all bad things 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's how politics work ryo 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] I love hierarchical structures. Federated countries, in federated blocks, in a greater federal europe would be amazing imo 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] isnt germany federated? 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] atleast thats my impression 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] only if ppl will be good tho 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] people don't want to loose their national identity 14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] or it will become in corruption with russia sizes 14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] they like symbols, and federation remove symbols to a newer upper being 14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] :justatest: 14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/891670022345351228/unknown.png 14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] that they don't know and fear 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] but making federations means to make new states with national identity 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] depended on territory 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] what identity would you make for Europe? 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] murica is a federation :monkalaugh: 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] and they still feel pretty murican 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean they can keep their own identities? The US states are a great example at how federations can work, it's not perfect by any means but it works enough that some states can even ban abortions 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] do you think tatars are russians or tatars are tatars? 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] because they weren't anything else before 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] i prefer to being called european than spaniard 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] or bashkirs are russians? 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] States got to keep a lot of power while being part of a federated structure 15:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] is there any multi lingual federation in the world? 15:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] tatars? 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] A more integrated example is the UK, Scots still have their own identity, so do the Irish. I don't really get where the fear of losing your identity comes from 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] catalans have their identity too, but its becoming less, the way to lessen it is to send more ppl from the mainland there , eventually ppl dont learn the local language, culture, etc 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm not familiar with any. Maaaybe if you stretch the federation definition a lot, China could be considered one with the Hong-Kong autonomous region speaking a different flavour of Chinese 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] making federation -> group territory with national identity of ppl that live here 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] canada 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ah, maybe Switzerland? 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] They speak 3 languages, and they are extremely federated 15:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] and if you are not talking about oficial languages then russia counts too 15:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] official* 15:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] china is unitary country 15:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] @gerdoe what are the other languages spoken in Russia? 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] i will just drop list here 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] I did say stretch the federation definition a lot 😄 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] wait a minute 15:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AF%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8#%D0%A7%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9_%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA%D0%B0 15:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] seems like this 15:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] can't find normal formatted list 15:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 15:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] 152 langs 15:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] http://jazykirf.iling-ran.ru/list_concept2020.shtml 15:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh wow, are these more like variations on Russian or proper different languages? 15:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] they're all part of different branches of langs 15:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] slavic languages as czech, bulgarian, ukrainian, belarusian, slovac, polish are variations of old-old slavic language 15:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] and russian ^ 15:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/891674123489665095/800px-Slavic_languages_tree_and_map_from_Kushniarevich_article.png 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] Never, just disable chat Clientside 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 there is a new and shiny ORM for rust 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.sea-ql.org/SeaORM/ 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] also its async (diesel is not) 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/891768491416359012/unknown.png 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] :poggers: 21:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] relying on sqlx concerns me, but I'll take a look 😛 21:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 i dont think sqlx is that bad 21:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk what problems u had 21:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] but after using it for months its p good 21:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's not that bad, but it might inherit the problems I've been having with it 21:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] what problems 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] it works fairly well as long as you only support a single db and don't rely on the offline mode 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye i knew it 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] i never used Any i just chose a db like 99% of cases 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] u always do weird stuff 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] :monkalaugh: 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] Why is wanting to support any db a bad thing? 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] its hard 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] and most of the time you want to choose 1 db 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] and optimize ur queries for it 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] imho 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] That would be the killer feature for me, ngl the compile-time verification doesn't excite me very much 21:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] At that point i'd rather just use a library to support the singular db choice I have 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats not useful at al 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] cuz with sqlx u already feature gate the db drivers 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] so u are only compiling what u want 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Why is it not useful though? It's as useful as sqlx minus the compile time verification stuff 21:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] well less useful 21:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] i actually kinda like the compile verified queries 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] What is the reason we cant reconnect unlimited times to a server and we get timed out? 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] ...i mean if the server is full 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] you are stressing network with your reconnects 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] afair there was topic on teeworlds.com where dune said to client modder to delete reconnect function 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] because person can just crash server with it lmao 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] could at least 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] cl_reconnect_full should be 5 22:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] The automatic reconnect we have in the client should be correctly backing off to make sure you don't get banned 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's 1 for me, I think it's from old configs or so