09:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] You wouldn't believe how much android devices contact google... 09:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] My dads iphone is completely silent on the network when not in use. My samsung calls home like every minute 09:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] They even contact google to check if the device is online. When I was in China my phone always thought it had no internet, since Google servers are all blocked 😄 09:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's a little surprising to me that the iphone is so conservative with it's tracking 09:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] I honestly dont think it has much if any at all 09:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think that's one of the main selling points, that Apple protects your privacy 09:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] I wonder what phone government agencies with very strict rules get 09:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 I have total of 108702 trackers blocked since 29.12.2019, 10:00 untill now 09:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] ^^ 09:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] I doubt it'd be acceptable to jog around langley with an s9 reporting your location every minute 09:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Soreu a pihole? 09:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 See also the secret American military bases you can easily see on Strava's heatmap 09:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] AdGuard set as own VPN to block ads & trackers 09:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen didn't that get those devices banned from military installations? 09:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/761126013785604116/Screenshot_2020-10-01-09-22-54-771_com.adguard.android.jpg 09:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Blocked Ads 09:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Blocked trackers 09:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Blocked threats 09:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Saved data 09:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] I was thinking of setting up a pihole on my vpn 09:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] Anyway, I'm wondering whether I should look into an iphone again 09:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] I get super-frustrated every time I try to fix something on iPhone 09:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] No real file system for once 09:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] It gets better after you jailbreak 09:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] Way too locked in, can't run your own applications 09:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah, but after jailbreak my banking apps will stop working 09:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh yeah 09:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] If only I could have a nice stock android with all tracking disabled and google pay 09:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] As soon as you disable the boot protection thing to install vanilla android, google pay and most all banking apps just dont want to work 09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah, I was thinking that if Apple made an Android phone that protects your privacy, I'd probably buy it 09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] My current solution is just a custom DNS server on Android 09:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's kinda scary how much information google collects 09:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] It'd be nice if all this data collection could be regulated a bit but with the average politician being a 100 yo, it's unlikely they even understand the concept 09:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/761127741117431838/Screenshot_2020-10-01-09-29-43-725_com.adguard.android.jpg 09:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] all when just chilling in discord without clicking a single link, and having only Spotify without ads in the bg 09:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen do you run the dns server on the device? 09:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Soreu you have a xiaomi? 09:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] y 09:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] Heard those even call home all the way back to china 09:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 no, currently just NextDNS, so I'm not even running it myself 09:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have their smart light bulb, to turn it on thru WiFi the info goes to Chinese servers first, then back to the bulb xD 09:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh, also I'm about to board my first flight since the world went to shit :D 09:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] I always wanted to do some smart home stuff, but it's all so proprietary 09:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm using xiaomi since it's just cheapest one with still decent features/quality 09:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 where are you flying? have a good trip 09:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm actually in the office at work for the first time today since the middle of march 🙂 09:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] though some Chinese kids know when I'm back home with data going all the way though their servers first xd 09:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] I was considering wiring it up myself, but it's not exactly trivial to fit a relay where a light switch used to be and the light switch 09:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen back to italy 09:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen was it actually needed that you go back in? Thought your job would be okay with you being remote 09:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] Airports feel so dead. I can't imagine the millions of dollars they are all wasting 09:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] Have a nice flight & chill at workplace 09:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] I gotta start taking care of huge pile of overdue documents at my desk at work xd 09:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] That sounds very boring, have fun :D 09:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] not really required, but a new colleague starts today and I'm his mentor. So it's nice to meet him in person 09:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] Most of it is fixing mistakes of other ppl and so checking every single line xd 09:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] indeed boring af 09:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] Try to have fun anyway? :D 09:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/761130717241278504/IMG_20201001_094128.jpg 09:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] call backup pls 09:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Even thinking of going thru all of it makes me wanna cry & laugh at the same time, but thankfully I'm closer to the second option 09:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] but for real, never every before got even half of what is laying there right now so I'm wondering what the hell has happened 09:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Send half i'll do them 09:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] so... till later 👋 09:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] Looks interesting. I wonder how it works with C/C++ 09:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah, let's just enable and give it a try. We use Coverity at work, I imagine this to be similar 09:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen well first of all I guess it couldn't figure out how to build our project :D 10:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 Hey, i know someone who 10:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] has his skins folder getting reset or smth ? 10:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] he is on steam 10:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] and for some reasons the skins just dont stay 10:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] If he is replacing skins in the data folder, those get deleted with updates 10:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] If he is only adding skins, they shouldnt get reset 10:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Though in general all custom data should go in the config directory 10:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] (which we'll start warning users about in the next patch) 10:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] he's only adding skins 10:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] One thing I'm not sure of is how steam manages the folders, maybe it is cleaning out extras on update 10:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ask him when they get reset, if it's on update it could be expected 10:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] He should add his skins to the config directory anyway 10:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 alright thanks! 13:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] > I always wanted to do some smart home stuff, but it's all so proprietary 13:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] 13:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] the world needs an OpenWRT of the IOT that will free those proprietary devices @Learath2 13:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] I hope someone will make an open platform compatible with most chipsets used in modern "smart" home applicances 13:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've bought a Wi-Fi extender from Xiaomi once just to have a better range for my drone. 13:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] Has to ~~sell my newborn baby~~ register at their website, install application that requires ALL the permissions possible just to tell this extender a W-Fi SSID and a password of my drone. And to do that I need to use webui on chinese site. To literally login into device in my own hands. 13:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] Next time I've bought a Xiaomi router it was the same. There were even no web ui. So chinese servers UI store my router's SSH password to provide me access. Happily there was an OpenWRT so after gaining access I was able to reflash it. 13:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] *to reflash it to OpenWRT and I've never need Xiaomi app or account. Thanks gods, privacy is not so much eroded yet in non-Chinese world and we have alternative manufacturers which don't need 24/7 access to devices in my home for them to work. 13:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'd better pay 20-30% more for non as sleeky-looking device than buy a device which will require me full access to my home network and my phone to gain access to a $10 dongle. 13:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] *again 13:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] ||Sorry for mistakes. Trying my best not to edit my messages in this bridged channel|| 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] Am in Italy, didn't get arrested at the border 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] Problem with smart home stuff is that there usually is open source software that manages them, but they all communicate over proprietary apis. So the open source manager usually ends up a jumble of reverse engineered plugins to interact witb different things 14:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] > Am in Italy, didn't get arrested at the border 14:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 welcome back to the 🇪🇺 14:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] :justatest: 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🇪🇺 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] EU funfact: Croatia is the only member country to not have a burgundy passport 15:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Pure_luck "Wi-Fi extender from Xiaomi" 😦 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] WiFi extender makes more problems than it actually solves 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] and Xiaomi... the only thing that's worse than Xiaomi are those unknown Chinese trash brands 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] why do people still buy these things... 😄 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you want some cheap network device at home, go for TP-LINK 15:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you want something better but still quite cheap go for MikroTik or Ubiquiti 15:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's really that simple 15:12 <+bridge> [ddnet]
  • I use TP-LINK's adapters, they work >) 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ubiquiti is pretty darn proprietary too 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] Something akin to a consumer cisco 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, but it works at least without sending all your data to chinese servers 😄 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] > WiFi extender makes more problems than it actually solves 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've used it to get more range for my Ryzen Tello drone. And it's extended range 5x. 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't use extenders at home. If I had a problem I'd used something like mesh for that. 15:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] by the way, i thought you were concerned about privacy issues - you were afraid of IME 15:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] that makes sense actually, but then you go and buy some Xiaomi thing 16:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] But it's running OpenWRT now 16:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean the router 16:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] and I use extender in the fields only 16:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] and I use extender in the fields only, it is connected to my drone Wi-Fi AP with no internet access 16:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] and I use the extender literally in the fields only, it is connected to my drone Wi-Fi AP with no internet access 16:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] But I was very upset I have to install app to my phone to be able to login to my router and to reflash it. 16:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've used virtual android on PC for that 😄 16:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice 😄 16:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] but still Xiaomi knows my phone number now and that it's connected with my router mac address 16:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] though they don't have any other info 16:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] But I didn't knew that I will have to do so much extra work to reflash that damn thing. 16:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] I just knew it's possible to install OpenWRT there. 16:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Next time I would use flasher for that. Much less hassle. But I didn't had one atm. 16:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] a hardware one 16:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] And I didn't expected that WiFi extender to be that ~~sophisticated~~ overcomplicated. 16:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] what if it even doesn't have standalone SPI flash rom chip? 😄 16:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] Come on, it's usual electronics. It has JTAG and also usual flash memory chips. 16:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] One way or another it'd be easy to flash it. 16:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean it's not apple (yet). 16:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well at least they don't have electronics designed for them. 16:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] In contrast TP-Link router I've bought later is Chinese too. But it was very regular. Only web ui and fully open for anything. 16:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] if they make millions of these things, it's possible that it has only that black epoxide spot inside with everything integrated in it 16:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] Epoxide is not nice for nanometer-sized electronics that tend to be overheating. 16:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] It'd died rather quickly. 16:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's ok for calculators and such. 16:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] everything is OK if you want to keep price as low as possible 😄 16:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] But nobody will buy a router with 1 month guarantee. 16:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 16:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] at least 2 years are needed 16:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've had 2 routers that worked for 10 years. 16:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Both were asus. 16:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've fixed capacitors 4 times on each. Still working. 16:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] No IC degradation at all. 16:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] 4 capacitors dying in just 10 years doesn't sound so great 16:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think it's not only capacitors but something else. As first 5 years they worked with no problem. 16:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] sometimes it's hard to get good capacitors 😄 16:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] So I've fixed both on 5, 7, 8, 9, 9, 10 mark. 16:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] I only had these problems with hardware from the 2000s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague 16:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah I think my capacitors were getting worse. 16:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] aftewards no dead caps 16:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] and manufactorer used better ones 16:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] they lasted 5 years which is nice 16:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] mine lasted 1-2 but costed me like 0.2$ each 16:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] also 20 minutes of labor too 16:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] now those routers are pretty useless anyway, right? 16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yes, as I've bought a Xiaomi and TP-Link ones with better Wifi ac number 16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've loved those little routeres 16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] especially amber backlight on WL-500g 😄 16:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] single antenna only unlike those modern monsters with 4 and more antennas 😄 16:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/761231317387444304/614_asus_rt-n16_wl-500gp_wl-500gx_1.png 16:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] Exactly my 2 precious routers (top two) 16:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] found on the internets 16:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] that looks like orange, but in fact is amber 16:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] looked very warm 😄 16:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] also I think I will reuse their enclosure for something 16:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/761231556320690196/a5a39587b411b72e970c9e05777eb5ce.png 16:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's really nicely designed and RPi fits there or even 2 of them 16:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] WiFi module can be replaced 😮 16:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah! 16:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] but I didn't bothered 16:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] I am using wifi only for mobile 16:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] there are no modern WiFi cards with miniPCI (not PCIe) anyway 16:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think there are m2 ones 16:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] which could be compatible with a mechanical convertor 16:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] but you'd better to check that 16:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] what are those additional wires? serial console hack? 😄 16:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's not my photo 16:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] but that could be GPIO pins 16:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] so maybe it's for serial 16:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] or for IOT 16:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] this router doesn't much different from RPi in it's core 16:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] same chip I believe 16:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] at least in RT-16 16:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] at least it's ARM too and have linux and plenty of GPIO 16:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you want to solder them 16:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] RPi has more powerful processor and much more RAM probably 16:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] even the oldest one 16:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] even not so old TP-LINKs have only 32 MB of RAM 16:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] you're right 16:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] No, modern routeres have much more power and mem 16:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes they do 16:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] > It is powered by Qualcomm Atheros QCA9558 @ 720 MHz chipset, 128 MB RAM and 8 MB flash. 16:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] This is my current one 16:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's dual core I believe 16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] Though I've thought it has 1 GB of RAM 16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] weird 16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] sometimes it has even USB port, so you that little flash storage can be extended 16:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] sometimes it has even USB port, so that little flash storage can be extended 16:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] Never bought a router w/o USB in my life 16:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] Used every one with USB hard disk as a home file storage 16:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] and one router as a video monitoring system 16:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] it must be super slow as file server, or no? 16:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's much slower than SATA ofc 16:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] but it doesn't makes a difference for achiving/backuping for example 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] my home network is gigabit now and it's 1/6 of maximum theoretical SATA 3.0 speed 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] which is very fast 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] and dual core 720 Mhz CPU is more than enough for that 16:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] and I use cheap old HDD's not SSD for a file storage 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] and I use cheap old HDD's not SSD for a file storage, so HDD speed is right ~1 Gbps 16:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] your router has USB 3.x port? 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] USB 2.0 with its theoretical 480 Mbps is quite slow for gigabit network 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] you're right it doesn't 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] Xiaomi one had it 16:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] I rarely use it for anything but backups though 16:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] there was an Asus router with 2.5" HDD drive bay inside 17:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe it had even native SATA 17:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah 17:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've wanted that 17:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Also Xiaomi Pro has internal SATA I believe 17:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] ARM SoC with native SATA is quite rare thing, so let's hope it doesn't use some slow USB2-to-SATA converter 😄 17:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] like many ARM boards out there with few exceptions 17:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think I've read an in-depth review of Xiaomi router Pro and there was no convertor 17:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] but I am aware that usually there are USB2.0 convertors inside 19:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think the voting system to kick/ban someone should be changed. Atleast the kick voting. Since the people are spread out quite alot in the maps, a blocker/teamkiller or troll rarely gets kicked out. Imo there should be less votes required 19:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] then it will be easier to abuse 19:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Then fun voting will be a bigger problem :justatest: 19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Pak you should ping moderators here, if you need help 19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] if auth system were introduced it would be easy to set a weight for an authed player to 2 and also track funvoters 19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] if auth system would/ introduced it would be easy to set a weight for an authed player to 2 and also track funvoters 19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] authed players can force vote 19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] if possible, tees that are close to the person being kicked can have 2x effect on the vote system or something. 19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] i agree that a blocker/teamkiller rarely gets kicked out 19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] i agree that a blocker/teamkiller rarely gets kicked out - it is a problem 19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats not a bad idea 19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] but would it be based on distance or time bcs i think there are some maps that loop back around on themselves 19:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] still a new player haha, so not that experienced. but sure 😄 19:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Damn, been away too long 19:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/761281953504559124/20201001_194054.jpg 20:00 < ***> Buffer Playback... 20:00 <+bridge> [19:52:56] [ddnet] I missed nvidia drivers on linux so much 20:00 <+bridge> [19:52:58] [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/761284513568522310/20201001_195235.jpg 20:00 <+bridge> [19:59:04] [ddnet] :feelsgoodman: 20:00 < ***> Playback Complete. 20:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] damn those bezels are small 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] I researched a lot before getting them 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] They did kinda cheat though, there is a "bezel" on the panel itself, pixels that are not real pixels, just black