00:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] heylo 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] can someone tell me the difference between the following arrays in `CSnapState`? 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] m_paPlayerInfos[MAX_CLIENTS] 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] m_paInfoByScore[MAX_CLIENTS] 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] m_paInfoByName[MAX_CLIENTS] 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] m_paInfoByDDTeamScore[MAX_CLIENTS] 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] m_paInfoByDDTeamName[MAX_CLIENTS] 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] they all seem to have the same contents... 01:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] They are ordered differently 01:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] `m_paPlayerInfos` is ordered by id, isn't it? 01:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think so 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] suggestion 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] add explain what this makes when i put mouse on any setting in settings 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] reason: so much settings i not know what it make 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] for example? What is unclear? 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] suggestion 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] add explain what this makes when i put mouse on any setting in settings 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] reason: so much settings i not know what it make most time 10:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] like antiping limit 10:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] settings >ddnet 10:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] size 10:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk this for what relly 10:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah, that option is too confusing, shouldn't even be in settings 10:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🤥 10:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] anyway this just suggestion if do not have time this not necess 11:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] Guys, have you maybe thought about https://support.discord.com/hc/pl/articles/360047132851-Enabling-Your-Community-Server ? 11:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] we got declined 11:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] ... why tho 11:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] we dont meet their criteria 11:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe except for #showroom not being NSFW 11:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 11:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] which criteria isnt met 11:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] they didnt say that xd 11:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] If they said that, you could challenge their decision. They made it clear they don't want that 11:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] imo we have not enough members 11:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe something with the account of the server owner 11:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] try transfer ownership to me for testing 11:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] It might be fair enough though, no one in the outside world knows about DDNet 11:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] we had it with the account of server owner 11:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 11:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] meanwhile Teeworlds is well known, reviewed in game magazines, has a wikipedia article, etc 11:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] teeworlds is the origin 11:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://discord.gg/emzX6z 11:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] At least if I was in Discord's position I would judge this based on what I find on a quick google search for the project 11:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye but imo they would verify us if we had a lot more members 11:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] community server == verified server? 11:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] there are way fewer people in this verified teeworlds server vs here 11:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] but teeworlds is more known as deen said 11:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 11:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] flawed system 11:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] No, verified server is different from community server @noby 11:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] o 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen @jao Are you sure you're talking about **Community server** and not **Verified Server**? 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] 1. Community: https://support.discord.com/hc/pl/articles/360047132851-Enabling-Your-Community-Server 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] 2. Verified: https://discord.com/verification 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] those are different terms with different perks for the server & different requirements 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] whats the difference 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] read the first link 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] tldr pls 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760800685922189332/Screenshot_2020-09-30-11-50-10-588_com.android.chrome.jpg 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] we have that already 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] huh 11:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] Teeworlds has it i.e with their announcements 11:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760800970555916288/Screenshot_2020-09-30-11-50-54-817_com.discord.jpg 11:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can easily notice by different channel image and the follow option 11:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats only able when ur verified 11:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] no, that's from plain community server 11:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760801219131211797/IMG_20200930_115209.jpg 11:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] nope 11:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] when i set up community server it didnt let me make an announcement channel 11:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'd assume Vanilla has both enabled 11:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760801573567463464/IMG_20200930_115343.jpg 11:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] ... 11:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] Community is listed here 11:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] then tell me where it should be 🙂 11:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] update your discord xd 11:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] haha 11:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360032008192 11:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] new option under create channel 11:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] and how do i turn an old channel into it 11:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] or do u want us to delete #announcements 11:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760802270009884682/unknown.png 11:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] No, deleting it would suck 11:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] :poggers: 11:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] You damn nobo 11:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] it was community server all the time lol 11:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] i told u we already have it 11:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 11:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] geez 11:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] see its useless 11:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] people dont even notice it 11:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760802899780829245/unknown.png 11:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] only good thing is server insights when ur a big server i guess 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] But you can use a custom background and have announcement channel shared to other servers. Which is nice. 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] custom background? 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] On invites only 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360047132851-Enabling-Your-Community-Server#:~:text=Requirements%20for%20Enabling%20Community,-In%20order%20to&text=Members%20of%20the%20server%20must,that%20have%20assigned%20roles!) 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] > Welcome Screen: 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] > Set up a personalized welcome screen for new visitors of your server so they know what your community is about and where to start. This way, they can immediately head to the welcome and rules channels instead of wandering around lost. 12:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] where can i change the background? 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://support.discord.com/hc/pl/articles/360043913591-Public-Server-Welcome-Screen 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] i didnt see anything about changing the background there 12:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao nobo they announced this new thing today 12:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] with this i can add ddnet announcements to other discords 12:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao make map releases announcement too 12:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki nobo 12:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] :monkalaugh: 14:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Doesn't anyone have some fancy silicon valley friends? 14:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Maybe someone working at discord 👉 👈 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] What you wondering about? 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao he meant this, but I'm too lazy to search how to 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760842862224605194/Screenshot_from_2020-09-30_14-50-21.png 15:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] did you guys just speedrun discord verification 15:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think so :kek: 15:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] wow weird discord wont verify this server esp after its on steam and all 15:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Soreu stop being lazy! :rooEZSip: 15:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] wait huh u can make backgrounds for reg servers? 15:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] i thought you needed nitro boosts 15:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] we have level 1 boost 15:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] @louis for servers set as Community Server 15:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://discord.com/invite/22sqGcB 15:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh i found it 15:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760853420281954345/unknown.png 15:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] :poggers: 15:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] You damn nobo. @Pure_luck thanks for mentioning it in the first place 15:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] now we just need a good pic 15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760854369293041664/grass.png 15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe 15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Bad pic 15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf U 15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] what about a high res version of :nouis: 15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] > did you guys just speedrun discord verification 15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've just buyed a Nitro and boosted my server. You can change your invite background already as your server is level 1 too. 15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] But you know that I think 😄 15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] the sun is on the wrong side 15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] it has to be right 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760854769354276934/unknown.png 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] :troll: 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 haven't you fixed that 0.7 vote author issue yet? I want to investigate/fix it but if you have fixed already I will just pull your commit. 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao use the pic with the players 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] players on right side on a good looking map 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] which one 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] Multimap 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] Best map 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] All players will recognize it 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] pls 15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Also you can kinda hack Community Server status: just embed text into that picture if you want to. 15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] use this 15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] That's the CS status gives you I think: a page with text info on invites instead of just a background pic. 15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760855447254466580/Screen_Shot_2020-09-30_at_8.27.07_AM.png 15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] :NO: 15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] u 15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] ew turn down the nametag size 15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] @louis send the pic 15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] @louis why 15:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont have one that looks good atm 15:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] Apparently it wasnt fixed, so you can investigate. I'm a little busy until friday/saturday 15:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] big nametags u can see people further away :zoozer: 15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] so u could say its zooz 15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] except anyoen can do that with any client 15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] :justatest: 15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] :noban: 15:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] noby such a troll 15:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] u 15:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] have short name anyway so it wouldnt matter xd 15:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] :nobytroll: 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] :monkalaugh: 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760857671662043136/screenshot_2020-09-30_08-36-30.png 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao dk if this will work 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] stars ugly 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] wait yeaha 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] let me edit those out 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] why are there stars 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] Stars are ok. But I think that you should take a nice demo with more characters, find a right moment and crop it. 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760857950012833802/unknown.png 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] looks good 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] So the message will be that this is a popular game and people have fun in it. 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] y i think it needs more tees 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye more tees would 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye more tees would be good 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] This gray level with 2 tees feels gloomy 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] gray is nice 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yes, nice gloomy color 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <> u arenice 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760858122465312778/screenshot_2020-09-30_08-36-30.png 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <> u are nice 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] thx 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] edited out stars but i only have 1 dummy so idk maybe ill get aa better pic latrer 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] later* 15:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] wheres the one image deen did an #announcements for having everyone join for 15:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] use that maybe 15:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] ya 15:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] Most advertisements depict happy people having fun and exciting time for a reason. 15:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/295908390956433410/751517645865484318 15:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] and i dont find it gloomy 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] Most advertisements depict happy people having fun and being excited doing things for a reason. 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah that 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] i personally dont think these screenshot 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] too overflooded 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] @louis yeah like that 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760858590201380904/Screen_Shot_2020-09-30_at_8.40.10_AM.png 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] who used my skin 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] i personally dont like these screenshots 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] i wasnt there 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] but people could get claustrophobic 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] :justatest: 15:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295908390956433410/751517893904171078/unknown.png 15:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] look at this guy tho 15:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] cheat af 15:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] ~~Though the game is not for the weak. So maybe they should be warned ~~ 15:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] "Have a gloomy time in the pile of your friend bodies" seems to be ok, isn't it? 15:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <> WARNING only 2% can master this game WARNING 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] clickbait 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] 98% will NOT complete this game 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] 99% cant press this red button 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Warning brokecdz world record holder Warning 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] :monkalaugh: 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <> :justatest: 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] :stab: 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 99% will FIND a egirl (or not) 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] my cringe meter is ringing 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <> 1% will get catfished 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] @snail ur raging 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] :pepeH: 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] "As exciting as being continuously hit in the balls. This game will make your spirit stronger." 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] :antijao: 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] :nobytroll: 16:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] :boo: 16:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hm 16:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] Can anybody check if that's just a github UI artefact or my previous merge commit will be there after a merge too? 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've made a PR ddnet→my fork to get fresh changes from a ddnet repo before adding a new commit to my fork and making a PR back to ddnet. 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] I can add ddnet origin to my fork and use pull --ff next time if that's a problem. 16:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] I can add ddnet origin to my fork repo and use pull --ff origin master next time if that's a problem. 16:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean this thing. 16:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760877467580760162/Screenshot_from_2020-09-30_17-55-07.png 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] First commit is an empty diff for your server as it contains only commits that already are on your master. 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] It is a problem 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ok, I will just redo this. 16:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've thought that that's only github UI artefact as commit is empty for you. 16:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] Because there is no differences. 16:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can just `git reset --hard ddnet/master` that branch then `git cherry-pick origin/master` 16:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] In general, just keep your master in sync with ddnet/maste 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] master* 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's just good practice 16:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ok, I will do it that way. 17:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've wanted to try webUI 😄 but appearst that doing new things in console is still a safer way 17:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] I've wanted to try webUI 😄 but appears that doing new things in console is still a safer way 17:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] too bad there is no button to make git pull --ff from UI 17:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 updated 17:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] If you keep your master always in sync with ddnet/master you won't need --ff 17:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 @Pure_luck maybe u can also change pull to use rebase instead of merge 17:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] `git config --global pull.rebase true` 17:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] Merge makes that commit appear 17:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] Rebase is better 17:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] Maybe. Right now I am using a separate repository to apply changes. So it's easy to make it in sync of ddnet. 17:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yes, I use rebase to pull changes to my game repo from ddnet master usually. 17:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] But my game repo is private and as I think I cannot make PR to open repos from it so I've made a separate one just for this. 17:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] So I just cherry-pick changes across local repos prior to pushing to a public repo fork. 17:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] But nevermind honestly 😄 17:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] Thanks for an advice 17:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 im being told that this player has an invisible name with new clients 17:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760883314671747142/Screen_Shot_2020-09-30_at_10.18.10_AM.png 17:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] if i paste the name its this: ` ` 17:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] so it makes sense that it would be invisible with fixed characters 17:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] if the confusables system does anything to prevent invisible names can it be patched to include this 17:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] Another name we missed in the whitespace table I guess 17:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] can it be added pls xd 17:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] Sure 17:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] ty 17:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye it is invisible 17:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/760884370507563048/Screen_Shot_2020-09-30_at_10.21.15_AM.png 17:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'll have to check why we missed it 17:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] i used the wikipedia list of whitespace-&-similar chars in unicode 17:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] Nope, we block that one, it is 0x3000 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] has the whitespace table been updated? 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] where can i find the whitespace table :x 17:26 <+ChillerDragon> 17:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] @onby is that on your server? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2656 17:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] ohhhh 17:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] no it wasnt 17:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] thanks 17:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] just added it 😄 19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen it didnt work to just copy that function 1:1 lol 19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] are there more commits that this needs 19:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] @onby yeah, it has to be used in some places. old commits though 19:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] confirmed that it works on ddnet server. just check where the function is used, especially with player name 19:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok thx ill check 21:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.blog/2020-09-30-github-welcomes-the-openjdk-project/ 21:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] :monkalaugh: 22:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] Finally one of these massive self hosted giants moved over to github, maybe the rest will follow 22:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] I wouldn't even care that they hosted it themselves if only all of them didn't use that god awful gitweb thing 23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 they also used mercurial 23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] :monkalaugh: