00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> @ChillerDragon while 1000 Players play on 0.6 there are much wow 5 players 0.7 und u say 0.6 sux? :kek: 00:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] :feelsamazingman: :feelsamazingman: :feelsamazingman: 00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] :feelsamazingman: :feelsamazingman: :feelsamazingman: 00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Konsti while 1200 players play on 0.6 00:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> Why cant version 903 join DDNet servers? 01:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> yo 01:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> wher can i post bugs or something 01:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] just say them here 01:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745427988388249640/DDNet_2020-08-18_19-28-32.png 01:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> i keep opening the game and this always happens 01:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> steam version, i verified the files and even reinstalled teh game 01:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> nothing seems to work 01:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> even restarted my pc ! 01:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmm 01:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> and the fps is like 3 01:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> 😭 01:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] i don't know what it could be, but others might, just want to let you know its 1:45 here and they are sleeping xD 01:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] ooh someone else had this issue 01:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] @$$$ have you tried changing any graphics settings? 01:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] @$$$ do you play via steam? you can try to download the client from ddnet.tw 01:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] go to graphics, if you have opengl on maybe disable it, if not, the other way around 01:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> yah 01:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> @louis 01:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> changed the renderer to open gl and didnt work 01:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> same result 01:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> and i havent messed wit the graphics settings @ all 01:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] looks like none of the images are rendering 01:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> yeah and im getting like 3 fps to 01:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> and my pc is like 01:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> relly good 01:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> so 01:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats rly weird 01:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745428828951674941/unknown.png 01:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] but did u try changing the option i said 01:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> here is the graphics settings 01:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> yeah lemme try that 01:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] try using opengl3.3 01:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] it requires restarting the game 01:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] dont check igpu unless u dont use a dedicated gpu 01:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> uh 01:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> game doesnt even start anymore when i check opengl 01:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats weird 01:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> ikr 01:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> 😭 01:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] well 01:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> dont know wat to do 01:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] u have to change the setting manually 01:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] go to browse files in steam 01:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] open the ddnet dir 01:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] ur on windows right 01:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] then double click config_store i believe 01:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont remember if thats the exact name 01:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> ya 01:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] then u have to edit 01:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] settings_ddnet.cfg 01:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] search gfx_opengl3 01:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] set it to 0 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> wheres the setting cf 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> g 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> in ddnet dir ? 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] did u double click 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] the config_store file 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> yea nothing happens 😰 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok try config_retrieve 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> nothin 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] or some config_x 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] its a .bat file 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] sry im not on windows so i dont remember 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> oooo 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> ok i cliekd it 01:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] now search settings_ddnet.cfg 01:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> got it 01:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] open it and edit it 01:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] gfx_opengl3 1 01:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] set it to 01:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] gfx_opengl3 0 01:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> ok it boots up again 01:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> but same problem as earlier 01:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont know why it happens, you will have to wait till some other devs wake up 01:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] its 2 am here 01:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] :/ 01:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> ok : ( 01:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] @$$$ while the client is open 01:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] can u press f1 01:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] does it show text that can be read? 01:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> lemme see 01:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745430524826222692/unknown.png 01:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> yea this is what happens when i click f1 01:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] press repag 01:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] or pg up 01:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk what key name u got 01:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> i pressed it twice 01:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745430634507272212/unknown.png 01:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] is that all? 01:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] rip 01:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745430750995939328/unknown.png 01:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> > i pressed it twice 01:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> @$$$ this one is page 3 01:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> and yah 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] @louis do u know how to enable terminal on windows 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont remember 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> cmd prompt ? or powershell 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] cmd prompt 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> yepo 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] so it shows logs before config 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] try to execute the game from it 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> whats the exe and command ? 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] its like cl_show_window or something 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 01:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> in Windows CMD 01:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> ? 01:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye 01:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> ok whats teh windwos cmd to do that and whats the target .exe or whatever @Ryozuki 01:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok i found it 01:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] ignore this 01:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] open the game 01:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] press f1 to open game console 01:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] type cl_show_console 01:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] cl_show_console 1 01:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] so it shows a terminal 01:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] next time u open game 01:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe we can find smth there 01:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> lemme try dat 01:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> so put that into the console and restart the game right 01:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] u have updated drivers and all right? 01:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye 01:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] `cl_show_console 1` 01:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745431717564776528/unknown.png 01:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] more up 01:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] before all the binds 02:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745431852461981806/unknown.png 02:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmm nothing 02:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://ddnet.tw/downloads/ 02:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe this version can work for you 02:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> lemme c 02:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745432274014699560/unknown.png 02:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> same prblem champion 02:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] well idk 02:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] :/ 02:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe @Jupstar ✪ knows more when he wakes up 02:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> no problem bro thank u for ur help 🤍 02:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] np and sorry 02:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> no worries well get it fixed : ) 02:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] could also try an older version like 12 or 10 02:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> how would i do that 02:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] im awake 02:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] @$$$ windows ? 64 bit or 32bit? 02:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> i have 64 bit 02:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] u could try loading: 02:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/suites/1066881626/artifacts/14525736 02:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] 02:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] in the client f1-> gfx_opengl_major 1; gfx_opengl_minor 4; 02:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] 02:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] then restart 02:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah u can only download it with github account 02:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] mmhhh wait 02:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] is a file hoster ok for u? 02:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] else u can also create an github account and download it there 02:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> sure 02:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> file host it bro 02:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> media fire or something 02:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> pls 02:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] @$$$ ryozuki.xyz/ddnet-github.zip 02:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah or that xd 02:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] @$$$ https://ryozuki.xyz/ddnet-github.zip 02:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> lool 02:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> is this an older version ? 02:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] this is a version where u can specify the Opengl version 02:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] you said ur computer is rly good 02:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] so i find this weird 02:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] what gpu? 02:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 02:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] didnt read full conversation sry xd 02:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] thought its the same bug as the other one 02:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you basically have any nvidia or amd gpu u normally should be fine 02:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ it doesnt boot up 02:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] with opengl3 02:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] for him 02:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah ok then he might have an old pc xD 02:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] the client deffs downgrades automatically to older opengl if 3.3 fails 02:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] $$$Today at 01:47 02:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah and im getting like 3 fps to 02:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] and my pc is like 02:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] relly good 02:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] so 02:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] tested it on an intel laptop 02:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 3fps in tw 03:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] a 05:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> @Ryozuki dual gtx 1080s 05:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> 32 gigs of ram 05:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> i7 05:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] you're getting 3 fps in teeworlds 05:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] with two 1080s 05:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🧐 05:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] whens the last time you updated your drivers? 06:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> like yesterday 06:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> @Lukas Kawalec 06:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> idk what to even do 06:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] can u browse the local files of ddnet steam 06:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> sure 06:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] go into the data folder 06:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] is this what u see 06:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745498559142559834/unknown.png 06:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745498594223718451/unknown.png 06:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> yup 06:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] click an image 06:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745498649332809778/unknown.png 06:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] hm ok 06:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745498680898879558/arrow.png 06:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> 😭 06:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] i mean what i would suggest is copying some files from ddnet.tw ddnet and paste them into the steam version 06:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] but thats just lowkey installing ddnet from the website and not steam so idk 06:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i think that would fix your problem 06:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] install ddnet from the website, then from steam 06:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> what 06:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> ive tried installing JUST the ddnet version and that still didnt work 😭 06:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] just reinstall your pc 06:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> boys 06:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> i did it 06:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> i fixed it 06:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> IDK how the fuck it was fucking up but it was a graphics driver issue 06:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> thank u champions 4 tha help 06:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] u didnt update drivers :greenthing: 06:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> no i did 06:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] then howd u fix it 06:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> the install was fucked up tho 06:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> i had to roll back drivers and reinstall 06:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] smarty pants 06:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <$$$> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745501046024962099/chinese_man_thumbs_up.png 07:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] okayi waspinged 07:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] okayi was pinged 07:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay i was pinged 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] i send u the client 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] i did it 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] put it 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] restarted it 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] but still 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] the same lol 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd ok 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] then try ddnet 9 maybe 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] I tried it 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] it works 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] strange 😄 07:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] but kinda sucks without any updates 07:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah but i can't think of anything that was added 07:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can also try gfx_opengl_minor 1 or 2 07:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] I tried 07:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] Nothing 07:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] lel 07:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] can you send your ddnet_settings.cfg 07:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe i find smth 07:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] lik 07:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] like 07:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] the entire? 07:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] here 07:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah or is there any password in it 07:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] it may take a while to find it 07:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] there is config_directory.bat in ddnet directory 07:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] it will send you to the config 😄 07:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh ok 07:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745518048286343238/settings_ddnet.cfg 07:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] mhh ok, maybe SDL 2 just creates the window with different flags and that doesn't work for your GPU, have u tried changing some settings in graphic setting tab? 07:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] like disable high dpi 07:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah 07:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] nothing 07:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] gfx_finish 1 07:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] was changed 07:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] gfx_quad_as_triangle was 1 07:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] gfx_quad_as_triangle was 0 07:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] sry 07:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok 08:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ thanks for supporting our graphics stack btw 🙂 08:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] so i writed 08:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] gfx_quad_as_tringe 0 08:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] gfx_quad_as_triangle 0 08:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] but nothing 08:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] sadly i joined teeworlds programming when ddnet was already at 10.x, so i dunno what exactly changed before 08:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] well,this problem will be unsolved 08:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] have u tried teeworlds 0.7? 08:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] no? 08:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] mhh i wonder if that works 08:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] they more downward compatible in general 08:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] 7.5 08:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://teeworlds.com/ 08:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] or 0.7? 08:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] its the vanilla client 08:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok 08:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] next 08:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] i mean what should i do, if i'd have the GPU, the first thing i'd try is installing linux 08:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] bcs there is a good chance that it works there 08:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] i also dunno where u are from 08:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] romania 08:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] if u from europe... just buy a GPU for 10€ 08:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] or smth xd 08:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] im from romania 08:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] the only thing that would really help is to test out what exactly caused it, but if ddnet 9 works and ddnet 10 not... then the big difference between these versions is SDL 08:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] and ddnet does not implement SDL, it only uses it 09:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] teeworlds 7.5 kinda lags,and still the problem occures 11:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen I'm using `sv_sql_servername` if you want we can add a new config variable instead 11:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] ChillerDragon: Are you around? 12:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah 12:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] what's this bot? 13:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 why do u need that lol 13:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] ban_region 13:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 13:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki CHN needs bans of their own 13:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 did chinese gov contact you? :justatest: 13:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] did they tell smth about me 13:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] They have my father in custody 13:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] :justatest: 14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen should we just merge the serbian translation update? Not like we have any serbians around 😛 14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2590 14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont think this needs much revision 14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] I guess the question is whether we want doxygen at all 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] isn't it rather large? 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] why 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] its just a file 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] a config file 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] u dont generate docs 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ah, no build target for it? 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] I guess if we don't require it it's fine 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 I'd like to release, let's get https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2594 ? I got a few complaints about this one 15:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] Would be nice, if someone uses steam, the nick should be the same as their steam account 15:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah nick would be nice 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah and 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] on client should be 1 time changing name 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] cuz they can steal other records and stuff 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Margineanu65 records are stealable, we don't have accounts yet 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh ok 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Never had and that is a long story 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah mt 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] But almost impossible to implement atm 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's not impossible it's a lot of work we don't have developers for 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] Since how do you know who can claim which identify 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] That too 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] learath big troll im serbian 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i dont use serbian translation :troll: 16:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> Accounts bad 19:02 < ***> Buffer Playback... 19:02 <+bridge> [19:02:04] [ddnet] it depends, probably creating a GPU side buffer has disadvantages in latency etc 19:02 < ***> Playback Complete. 19:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] i really tried to research this, but never found anything 19:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah most docs on this are rather vague and outdated =\ 19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 I think it's fine to distribute the steam headers 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 there are projects binding to them in a couple of languages and the steamworks docs link to them 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] Sure? https://partner.steamgames.com/documentation/sdk_access_agreement seems to suggest we can only redistribute the bin directory 19:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 Since Serbian language is 90% same as Bosnian language, can I make pull request for Serbian language too? I will change few things. Sorry for ping. 19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] @m!ki can you write in the language more or less error-free? 19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 I guess we can create our own header 19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] for the functions we use 19:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime 19:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] that seems to be something else 19:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 sorry, but i dont understand the question 19:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] i cant rly find it 19:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] @m!ki how good is your serbian? 19:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i would love to develop using the steam api :o 19:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] you probs cant @Learath2 since u need to login to get the sdk 19:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] who owns the ddnet? 19:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Margineanu65 it's under an open source license, anyone can use it 19:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh cool 19:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 basically serbian language is removing "ij" from word. Almost everything is same. 19:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 i think we should not put the sdk in the github, but u can detect it with cmake 19:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/addictgamer/steamworks-c-wrapper 19:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] this wrapper has a findsteamworks cmake 19:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] that means 19:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] the code is free or 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, the code is free. check out https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh cool 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 idk do u understand what i said, but serbian have less letters in words, but same meaning 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] but im dumb to github 19:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Margineanu65 there are probably tutorials about github in the internet 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] "Copyright © 1996-2020, Valve Corporation, All rights reserved." 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] Xd 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] i got my copy of the sdk 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] trying to find if there is a license 19:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] it has a bash script to install it on linux 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] my current pr seems to improve performance a bit for GL 3.3+ 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki did you try it, would really like to know on other hardware 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] hitting 10k without HUD 😄 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745696179915980960/screenshot_2020-08-19_19-27-28.png 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] 10kfps 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <> wtf 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah, pretty good, didn't thought vega 64 could do it, since its not clocking that high 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] like NVidia cards do 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] i enable opengl right 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah its disabled because i renamed the config variables 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] u can also use opengl 4.6 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] tho it won't make a difference xD 19:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] i guess i should compile myself 19:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] and not use artifacts 19:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think my fps is limited to 1000 19:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] gfx_refresh_rate 0 xdd 19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] its 0 lol 19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] cl_refresh_rate 0? 19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] gfx_finish 0 ? XDD 19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] cl refresh rate 19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] was 1035 19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 19:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont notice change 19:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] im on linux btw 19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] mh for me it increased from around 9k to 10k 19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] what gpu u got 19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] vega 64 xd 19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] i get 2.5k fps 19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe also stronger CPU 19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] where can i download this version ? 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] well 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] ur gpu 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] is like 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] way better than mine 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] i got a old r9 390 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-64-vs-AMD-R9-390/3933vs3481 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh xD 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] ryzen 6 2600 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] 5 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] * 19:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] @cute af its currently not compiled by anyone 19:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] if u have github u can download the auto build 19:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] and it only works for GPUs that support opengl 19:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] 3 19:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] There is a bug, that when a skinname is too long it gets cut. This leads to having different skins with same name in the list and the client being confused and selecting both. 19:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/745699554069839962/unknown.png 19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] about the finish thing: if the cpu side is way faster than the gpu side (which seems to be the case in tw), the cpu might run far more frames in advance than 2-3. 19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] doing the sync after each frame is indeed not the optimal solution but it would be good to limit it to 1-3 frames. That would require fences though. 19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] btw this has nothing to do with double buffering. At least not if vsync is off. 19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] actually *glSwapBuffers probably calls glfinish internally when the buffer is reused again 19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] bcs then the buffer must be ready for writting anyway 19:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] it does a flush but usually no finish 19:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] but it has to 19:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] else older draw calls would draw on the buffer 19:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ sorry, but what i have to download exactly ? could you share link ? thx 19:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] @cute af got github account? 19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ yep 19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] @cute af windows? 19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ yes 19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/runs/1001743731 19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] 19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] just click top right artifacts and download for your OS 19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] is there any way ddnet steam updates could refrain from changing files like autoexec_server? 19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can copy autoexec_server.cfg in config_directory 19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] opengl can record calls for new frames before the gpu/server side is done with previous frames 19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] files in config_directory are not overwritten and will be preferred 19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah but the whole sense of double buffering is, that it can handle all calls async and only needs to finish once the buffer is used again 19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] so any kind of synchronization is not really in favour of the driver 19:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @cute af u have to enable 3.3 in graphic setting tab then 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ im using windows x32 atm 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] ) 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] then u have an old pc probably xD 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] exactly 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] then it probably won't work anyway 😦 19:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] why ? it depends on graphics card, no ? 19:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 19:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] my pc is 10 years old lol 19:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] but as far as i know nvidia droppped 32 bit 19:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] your GPU is listed as 2006 @Margineanu65 thats 14 years old xD 19:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 20:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] my gpu: Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 20:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah ok 20:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] im 18 and i play this game bruh 20:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] that probably works then @cute af 😄 20:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ how do i compile it ? 20:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] puh there are alot of tutorials from heinrich 20:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think even on the github page 20:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] i really confused with github :% 20:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] just intsall 64bit xd 20:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] not supported ( 20:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh wow ok xd 20:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] CHN still down 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] even the swap call can be queued as long as you dont have vsync on. When you really need low latency you want to limit that queuing to a certain degree 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes to the degree of your monitor refresh rate 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] i tried front buffering only, it didn't feel different to me, probs bcs 144hz isnt enough to see the 1 case where an image is drawn 1ms faster 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] the swap does not guarantee that the previous frames finished (with double buffering). it just makes sure to direct the calls to the right buffer in the future 20:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 20:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] it only garantuees that ur new buffer is ready to write 20:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] so in extreme cases the queue can build up calls for >10 frames in advance. so the things that are happening now will only get rendered after the prev 9 frames which are alreay outdated 20:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] i doubt that GPU have an interst in saving these frames 20:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] gpu drivers 20:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] without vsync they probs just overwrite the monitor buffer 20:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] after a while 20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] lets say it like that 20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah sure it will just overwrite the things again. but the things that are of interest might appear later on the screen because the gpu was still busy with old stuff 20:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] when it saves 10000 fps that arent drawn yet, when should it do it? 20:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] some times it has todo it xD 20:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] i honestly doubt it will use more than tripple buffer internaly 20:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] in most games thats not an issue because the cpu side will never be that fast 20:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] it does not really buffer the frame but the commands 20:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah true 20:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] the limit for this is not really specified and rather implementation dependant though =\ 20:24 <+bridge> [ddnet]