01:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki lol its funny to read that old tw page 01:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] > I can't use C/C++ or any compiled language because the mod-makers won't care for other platforms except the one that they are working on. I have considered some alternatives like Python, Java, homebrew and I fell in love with Lua. All game play code will be written under Lua. I have done some work basic tests and I think that it will serve us well. 09:32 <@Learath2> lua is a cool guy 10:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] For anyone interested - GitHub finally made the mobile app for both iOS and Android 10:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/mobile 10:25 <@deen> why not just a mobile website? Personally I don't see the point of most apps since I don't want to get notifications 10:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] then it indeed doesn't make much of a sense in your case 10:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea i also hardly have any apps but ima check that out 🙂 12:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think the UX is nice and better than a website could be 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] its funny to see all open pullrequest 😄 found some 2 year old pending fng pr there @onbgy 12:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] does someone has some dates on ddmax? from when until when was ddmax age? 12:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can write quite nice PWAs nowadays, even with notification support 12:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] They still never quite feel like a native application though 😦 12:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea i saw such things but only proof of concepts i never stumbd upon them in the real world 13:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] ebay has a PWA 13:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] pinterest has a PWA, spotifys web version can operate as one 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ok, what did I promise to debug? Might aswell make use of the quarantine 😛 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] What quarantine? I am just working. Things changed here, but i don't feel like i live different then normally. 15:40 <@Learath2> well I used to go out, now there is no reason to go out 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] @n000b might be good to state your country 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] here in spain you cant go out without a valid reason or u get a fine, 1500€ i heard 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe it was 150€ xd 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] in berlin everything except essential shops are closed 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] hm. that sounds wrong 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] people are still going to work. but public-facing stuff like cinemas, bars, swimming pools, etc. are all closed 15:44 <@Learath2> in some regions of italy you need to send an email/sms with valid reasoning to your local police hq and they give you a number and a time you can go out 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] interesting 15:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] going to work is a valid reason, and going to buy food or walking the dog too i think 15:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] but some people went out with a fake plushy dog he got detained xddd 15:46 <@Learath2> the mediteranian mindset 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf 15:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] clearly the police are just trying to oppress me 15:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] (see also: the usa) 15:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] the boomers in my neighbourhood are already screaming "IM BOOOOREEED" and the other "ME TOOO" lmao 15:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] their usual routine is to drink beer in the bar below 24/7 15:49 <@Learath2> "It's my DAMN right to be wherever the fuck I want whenever the fuck I want. My great great grandfather fought in the civil war to give us these rights, the founding fathers blessed us with the divine document, THE US CONSTITUTION and it grants me these rights." 15:51 <@Learath2> Hopefully it doesn't all blow up in their faces when their healthcare system buckles under the load of a pandemic 16:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki is that a video? 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 no its me 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] setting up a arch linux vm on qemu 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] didn't you already create partition? 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] didn't you already create partitions? 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i forgot boot partition xd 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] ^^ 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] im rusty xd 16:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] internet not so fast 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] i wonder if its a qemu thing 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] gonna take 10min or so 16:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 design problem #123 16:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] ? 16:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] what if the client wants to spectate a client that is gone 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] gone? 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] disconnected, dead, whatever 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] i.e. client sends to the server: I want to see client 42 and a rect of 1000x800 around that 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] client 42 is gone. what does the server do? 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't think that's how we should be sending the fov, just send two coordinates that define the rect, let the client figure out the coordinates? 16:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] but for spectating tees, the server should update the fov, no? 16:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] it should be bound to the tee's position 16:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmm actually that'd be a very costly netmsg traffic-wise 16:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] otherwise you'll be late by a round-trip in case of teleporters etc. 17:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] u r talking about showall? 17:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah it should be around a tee's position, if a client is "gone" just chose the next one? 17:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] btw showall is often used to record demos later 17:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] its handy to have all tees 17:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki talking about that issue, yes 17:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 holland. We there are indeed closer bars swimingpools etc, but that doesn't affect me. The only thing i cant do is party in the weekend and go to kickboxing during the week. 70% of the people here are working at home, but with my job that is almost impossible so we just go to work like it is a normal day 17:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] @n000b I bet the city is much emptier 17:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] barcelona is empty 17:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] Lol there was a market in the hague yesterday:kek: 17:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] Reason: we need also food 17:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] I dont understand that the goverment didnt do anything because we arent allowed to be with 100 people or more 17:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 is it normal that music bot lags? 17:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 maybe too many ppl 17:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] probably is bearing a higher load then usual 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] but mixing is done by discord, not the music bots I guess 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] more children at home = more people on discord listening to musicbot 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] how to make clan switcher (1* no clan 2* clan) 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/689872113154523257/Adnotacja_2020-03-18_172201.png 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] true 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] clicking spacebar as clan is not working 17:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] `""` works as an empty string 17:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok thanks 17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] defuq is happening xd 17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] in the channel 17:30 <@Learath2> @fokkonaut massive orgy 17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] lot of things 17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 send help xddd 17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] ZCatch mod is public ? 17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] @fokkonaut ? 17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] so many people 17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 not working 17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] made this 17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/689873720155832331/Adnotacja_2020-03-18_173124.png 17:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] it was line with player skin, color and dummy name 17:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] You need another " 17:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Dot5 wait sec i will show this on short video 17:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Vexar https://github.com/Teelevision/zcatch 17:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @onby Tnx 17:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Dot5 or not 17:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] hm 17:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] its public server 17:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] send it through dms 19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty 19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] :poggers: 19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] uhm @deen do you have sample values to test for sv_dnsbl_key and sv_dnsbl_host? 20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hey guys, do you have any bot examples on server side in teeworlds (github)? Something like on Zombie mod? I have subject on my studies connected with AI and machine learning and I'd like to know if I'm able to spawn some dummies on server side and control them somehow. I'm not familiar with ddnet/teeworlds code so it's really hard for me to understand all those connections between engine and server/client sources. I've tried to make some 20:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] @BumBumeq https://github.com/timakro/teeworlds-tmlp 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeee, I have seen that on youtube, but he is using only one tee to learn. I'd like to generate like 50 fake players and choose one the best from generation(?). But thank you! 😇 I will take a look ^^ His dummy is trying to kill opponent and my dummies will try to finish some easy ddnet maps. If I will be able to create those dummies xD 20:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ohh, I thought that his dummy is on client side but it looks like it's on server. Well that's exactly what I needed! Thank you so much @ChillerDragon 22:33 <+El_BobLex> hi is fstd there? 22:33 <+fstd> yes 22:36 <+El_BobLex> oh hello, i was wondering if you still make teeworlds mods. It was you and eeeee who made DDWar right? Do you have any plans on updating it to support tw 0.7? I know the mod is really old at this point but I had so many great times playing on the old DDWar server 22:37 <+fstd> yeah those were fun times 22:37 <+El_BobLex> fr dude 22:37 <+fstd> it's unlikely to be updated though :/ 22:38 <+El_BobLex> Sad times man. I really miss it. I was trying to add /pause commands to the already existing code but i literally have 0 iq when it comes to that stuff kek 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] there is /pause in 0.7 22:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet7 El_BobLex 22:39 <+fstd> wouldn't that be super abusable anyway? as a means to save yourself in a bad situation 22:40 <+El_BobLex> I wouldn't think so. it's not like /spec. 22:41 <+El_BobLex> Yeah i know that Chiller but I'm talking about DDWar not DDNet. Also i cannot code or know how to take already existing features from one mod into another. 22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] you said you want /pause? 22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] What feature is missing? 22:42 <+El_BobLex> In DDWar /pause doesn't exist (0.6) 22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] so what makes ddwar differenet from ddrace? 22:43 <+El_BobLex> But not to worry, it's cool to see fstd still around 22:43 <+fstd> :) 22:43 <+El_BobLex> DDWar was a very popular blocking mod back in 2011-2013 22:43 <+fstd> does anybody know what's the FNG situation in 0.7? 22:43 <+fstd> not sure if i should update openfng or not 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] there is a fng2 0.7 on github 22:44 <+El_BobLex> what do u mean by situation? 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] like 3 fng mods on github for 0.7 22:44 <+fstd> whether there's a decent fng in 0.7 22:44 <+fstd> okay ty chiller 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think one decent 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] my keks if im not mistaken 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] by 22:45 <+El_BobLex> 0.7 has 60 players playing the same DDRace map everyday kek 22:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] better play on my server :p 22:45 <+fstd> does the majority still play 0.6? or is 0.6 now what 0.5 was in 0.6 times? :) 22:45 <+El_BobLex> majority still 0.6 22:45 <+fstd> i see 22:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] fstd: i ported ddnet to 0.7 already (if you didnt know yet) https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet7 22:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] 22:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] Also, I am working on my own client, unconnected to ddnet, which has some features already. Can be found here: 22:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://fokkonaut.github.io/F-Client 22:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think without me 0.7 wouldnt have as many players as it has right now, and i doubt anyone else would have ported ddnet yet :D 22:48 <+El_BobLex> Your client is nice, i use it when i go on 0.7 from time to time 22:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] Thanks! 22:48 <+El_BobLex> you doing gods work :) 22:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] DDWar is where the 64p patch originated from iirc 22:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] I just want to give something to those who play on 0.7 (and of course for myself, because I ported my mod to 0.7 too) 22:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah what's with the 40 players on MultimapLess every day 22:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] I cant understand how Multimap is always the top1 map when there is a new version of Teeworlds xD 22:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] All those noobs, trying this and failing because it's too hard xD 22:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh haha maybe one day they'll all finish and move to just2easy or something 22:51 <+El_BobLex> Yeah, the majority of 0.7 players are new 22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] I feel bad for @ChillerDragon, he put work into his ZillyWoods client but since I started making my client, basically everyone moved to that. You can see that when you join a server, there is a small Z, F or G (or no symbol) next to the country flag of each player 22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's for F-Client, Gamer Client and ZillyWoods 22:54 <+El_BobLex> hey fokkonaut do you have a working server.exe for your ddnet port on 0.7. I cant compile stuff coz bam never works for me and visual studio makes me want to rip my hair out 22:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can compile using Cmake 22:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] but yes, I do have 22:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet7/actions/runs/57698503 22:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can click on "Actions" in the DDNet7 repository, select the latest commit in master and download the binaries 22:55 <+El_BobLex> oh yeah, i forgot about cmake 22:55 <+El_BobLex> thanks man 22:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] you're welcome 22:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] bam is removed from ddnet7 btw 23:00 <+El_BobLex> Ok 23:23 <+El_BobLex> I left a thank you note to eeeee on his github back in August, but it applies to you too fstd :) https://github.com/eeeee/teeworlds/issues/36 23:36 <+fstd> :) yw