13:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] is trashmap down? getting timeouts when creating server 13:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] nor join any on the list 13:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ddos 13:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf did u rly change rifle -> laser and laser -> shotgun? 13:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] whats wrong with u 13:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] shotgun was never named laser lol 13:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah ye my bad, shotgun didnt change 13:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] just rifle -> laser 13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] It was a 0.7 change and @ChillerDragon applied it to ddnet 13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] why 13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] just why 13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] idl 13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] k 13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] it just confuses everyone 13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] why is it so bad for you? 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] No 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] people were used to it, it was like that since forever 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] why change it after 1000 years 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] @fokkonaut hes jsut complaining for the sake of it 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] leave it be 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] ^ 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] he even complained with wrong facts 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] kinda shows how far he would go just to whine 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] snail toxic 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] aight 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] there was no reason for that change 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] now i have to redo 20 binds or what 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] u have to redo 1 bind lol 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] uff such work 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] jao was saying it was dumb a month ago, everything was ok, now i complain about it its just trashtalking 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] fair enough 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] you dont know my bind scripts 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] :greenthing: 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] typical ddnet admins 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] unplayable 13:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] typical toxic players :greenthing: 13:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh, it was changed in user-visible ways? 13:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] for me it makes sense 13:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] my binds are server cmds 13:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] as a new player u expect laser to be a laser 13:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] not a rifle 13:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] why not allow both 13:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye i guess that would be better 13:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh, but it's an rcon command, so it's not *that* bad 13:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] there are no new players 13:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'd also go for `laser` instead of `rifle` first 13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jesus Christ’s Life matter! 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf snail 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] as an old player you expect it to be rifle 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] there are far more old players 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] so which one has a bigger impact :tee_thinking: :tee_thinking: :tee_thinking: 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] cleaning up unexpected quirks also has its benefits 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao ye as i agreed keeping both is better 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] but clearly laser is more intuitive 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] than "rifle" 14:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] also "there are more old players so it should stay that way" is a bad approach imo 14:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] just because we've been used to something flawed and accommodated to it doesnt mean it should stay that way forever 14:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] (but i agree unnecessarily forcing ppl to change their habits is also bad if we can keep old ways while introducing a better one) 14:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] rifle makes no sense tbh 14:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] a rifle fires lot of bullets 14:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] this is just a laser 14:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] that was the plan for laser at first, thats why there are unused rifle bullets 14:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] @snail you can do such breaking changes on major version changes (like 0.6 -> 0.7) i dont see how it’s flawed it’s just a different name 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] well in that case its more about being counter intuitive 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] than a real flaw 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] still "clunky" 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] to have a laser named rifle 14:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] the real flaw is that sv_pausable is named sv_pauseable 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] lmao 14:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] :justatest: :justatest: :justatest: :justatest: :justatest: :justatest: 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] If people get used to the rifle name now it makes it less annoying when updating to 0.7 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] If this is a real problem then it should be fixed in the upstream 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] in vanilla it's not exposed to the user 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] It should still be consistent 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] And names of sound files could be exposed to power users 16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtff who calls the blue laser a rifle 16:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] the shotgun is shotgun and laser is laser 16:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf who calls the sytoox a cha 16:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] waiting for the war between _rocket_ and _grenade_ 16:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] gun-pistol 16:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol 16:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen how do you build curl for mac? 17:45 <@deen> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/blob/master/ddnet-lib-update.sh#L212 17:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] thanks 22:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hi i found a bug with animations 22:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] when you use penalty tiles the animation doesnt change 22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] so it is not tied to the gametime 22:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] like it says it does 22:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] when you hit synchronize