02:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <WeezMe> Posted in #general aswell. 
02:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <WeezMe> 
02:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <WeezMe> Yeah so basically i'm having extreme lags. I have no noticable delays whatsoever throughout the entire playtime. It just goes from 0-100 and then back from 100-0 (If even..). No high ping, steady ping of 48 even throughout the entire lagperiod. As mentioned it behaves like a DDOS attack, if i press space then i twitch on the spot until whatever grabbed me down finally releases me <message clipped>
03:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> @Learath2 what's the talk about, roughly?
03:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Freezestyler> Could it be that you lose tele weapons due to saving?
03:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Freezestyler> probably happened to starkiller & me at brainduck 2 tournament
06:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <onby> @heinrich5991 the guy made a program to find hidden/undocumented x86 instructions and ended up also finding various software/hardware bugs
08:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> @WeezMe to make sure whether it's your ISP or your PC you could try connecting your PC to another internet connection, or connecting a friend's computer at your home network connection
08:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> and if it turns out to be the ISP, complain to them. If it's your PC, remove stuff until the lags stop
08:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> it sounds like your ISP is blocking a few packets though
08:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> so you get dropped packets and that's why it feels like DDoS attack
08:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> @heinrich5991 the talk I sent? Fuzzing the x86 instruction set to find undocumented instructions and a couple odd quirks found along the way
08:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR0nh-TdpVg this one from the same guy is even more interesting
09:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <onby> ive never watched a 40minute+ youtube video before the first x86 one o_o
09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> >>>FreezestylerToday at 03:41
09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Could it be that you lose tele weapons due to saving?
09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> probably happened to starkiller & me at brainduck 2 tournament
09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> >>> FreezestylerToday at 03:41
09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Could it be that you lose tele weapons due to saving?
09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> probably happened to starkiller & me at brainduck 2 tournament
09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> idk why it doesnt work
09:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1588
09:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> this should work
09:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> maybe num is incorrect?
09:29 <@deen> I see there is not just HasTeleGun, but also HasTelegunGun
09:29 <@deen> is that something different?
09:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> where is HasTelegunGun?
09:30 <@deen> probably you have to set m_Core.m_HasTelegunGun/Grenade/Laser too
09:30 <@deen> see TILE_TELE_GUN_ENABLE in character.cpp
09:30 <@deen> it sets both
09:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ok found it
09:30 <@deen> or even better, remove one of them
09:31 <@deen> having two values that do the same thing seems like a great way to get bugs
09:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ye idk how it ended that way
09:39 <@deen> Will you provide a fix?
09:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> im trying
09:40 <@deen> Thanks
09:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i see why, core wasnt setting telegun status when loading but char did, now im removing char and using only core
09:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 
09:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/612917845399044162/unknown.png
09:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> this doesnt seem to be my fault
09:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> is there something wrong with console format?
09:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> hmm
09:57 <@deen> probably a null pointer being passed in
10:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i added a check on pStr on Bind and now i get a segfault here
10:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 
10:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/612918803705364511/unknown.png
10:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 
10:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/612918905383550979/unknown.png
10:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> this is also weird
10:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 
10:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/612918983062192128/unknown.png
10:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> it fails to load files
10:01 <@deen> try a debug build and debug?
10:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> maybe its a problem on my end
10:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> somehow
10:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ok
10:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> hmm it works
10:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ill try with RelWithDebInfo
10:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> it works
10:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> maybe i had to refresh cmake
10:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> how to enable save?
10:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i wanna test it
10:07 <@deen> you need mysql
10:07 <@deen> or add support for file based save/load
10:08 <@deen> I don't think we have it at the moment
10:08 <@deen> if it's too hard to add a db locally, you could give me the source code and I can run a test server on DDNet GER
10:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ok ill pr
10:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> next time ill setup the db
10:15 <@deen> ger.ddnet.tw:8303 is updated with your version
10:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ok ill test
10:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ok it doesnt work xd
10:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> hmm
10:26 <@deen> "case 97:" can't be right, can it?
10:27 <@deen> ah, my bad
10:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> there are 100 elements right now
10:28 <@deen> yeah, looks correct
10:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> so it shouldnt be the problem
10:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> othert elements also set core variables when loading so that shouldnt be a problem either
10:29 <@deen> Is m_String long enough?
10:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> uh
10:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> maybe not
10:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 
10:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/612926524282241035/unknown.png
10:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i guess its long enough?
10:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> what does getString do
10:31 <@deen> I meant m_String in save.h
10:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> oh
10:31 <@deen> but that looks big enough as well, 700 bytes in use currently
10:31 <@deen> shouldn't be over 2048 with your change
10:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i guess
10:33 <@deen> Found the mistake
10:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :o where
10:34 <@deen> \t instead of t in save.cpp:191
10:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> omg
10:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xD
10:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> my editor even doesnt highlight it
10:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/612927410983272458/unknown.png
10:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> but i guess its hard to find
10:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ok i forcepushed
10:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> update the sv just in case
10:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> its ez to test in wormhole map
10:37 <@deen> try again
10:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> works
10:39 <@deen> thanks for the fix
10:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> well you found the fix at the end :P
10:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> but we got cleaner code now i guess
10:40 <@deen> getting rid of the thousand character long lines would also be a nice next step :D
10:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> yep xD
10:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> maybe a serializable struct/class
10:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Not really easy to get rid of though, even if we move to a binary format we'd need to encode it somehow to store it in the db
10:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I guess we could split it into two tables in the db and store it properly, but that's quite some work
16:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> @heinrich5991 can you help me? Im trying to get rid of the automatic client disconnect like in DDNet. First is in network_conn.cpp, too weak connection (out of buffer) and the second is in network_server.cpp Error sending data. I cannot seem to properly eliminate those Disconnects, as the client just laggs out if I comment them like in DDNet
16:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <archimede67> So why removing them?
16:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> anyone remember when  isaid i had a problem with keyboard that it repeated keys while holding it when playing? unplugging and plugging it on another usb slot fixed it
16:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i can play tw again yay
16:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :justatest:
18:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> "gaming" optimized usb slot probably with higher input rate?
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> not rly
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> never heard of that xD
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10#kf
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> this is my motherboard
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> https://ddnet.tw/tournaments/6birthday/
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> the times are a bit broken ;D
18:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i want to install kernel 5.3-rc5 on arch but compiling it takes ages
18:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :twintri:
18:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> u can throw away modules u dont need
19:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Kernels compile quite quickly, are you compiling on a toaster?
19:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Compared to chromium and firefox everything compiles quite quickly actually
19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Learath2 lol did u try compiling arch linux mainline?
19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i guess they enable all shit cuz its arch
19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Oh could be bloated as shit true
19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I'll give it a try
19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i just want to test if the audio cracking with a analog  input  with realteck is fixed
19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Learath2 i dont think i hav a potato xd
19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/613056907300831262/unknown.png
19:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> what do you mean, lags out, @fokkonaut
19:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> like a timeout
19:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> and then too weak connection (not acked for 1 0 sec)
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> the client does that I guess?
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> @Ryozuki i had alot of audio problems too
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> nano /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> change:
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> default-fragments = 5
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> default-fragments-size-msec = 2
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> default-sample-rate = 48000
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> resample-method = src-sinc-best-quality
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> nano /etc/pulse/default.pa
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> change:
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> load-module module-jackdbus-detect channels=2 tsched=0
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> #load-module module-suspend-on-idle
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> this fixed it for me xD
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> do u have a amd cpu with intel audio and a ANALOG mic?
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i tried lot of shit
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> but they say its fixedi n 5.3
19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i have realtek and amd cpu
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-AMD-Analog-Input-Audio-WA
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ah and
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-input-internal-mic.conf
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> [Element Capture] 
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> switch = mute 
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> volume = merge 
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> override-map.1 = all 
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> override-map.2 = all-left,all-right
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> to
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> [Element Capture] 
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> switch = mute
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> does ur mic work clean in discord?
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> in teamspeak
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i dont use discord normally
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> but do u have a analog mic?
19:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yes
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> hm ill try later maybe
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> also try to use the back ports
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> wdym?
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> there is no backports from releaae candidates
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i mean
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> im on latest kernel
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> dont use ur front panels
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> in ur case
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i tried front and back panels
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ok
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> both have same bug
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> @heinrich5991 im on 0.7 and try to handle this like ddnet, they just commented that out, the auto disconnect and there its working fine
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> anyway all theses things together fixed it for me 😄
19:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> btw the most important thing was commeting out "#load-module module-suspend-on-idle"
19:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> somehow i read, that the audio drivers go suspend sometimes even if ur audio is used, that created annoying strange sounds, the rest came mostly from eletromagnetic fields from compents in the case, that weren't grounded, causing the analog cables to do loud pieps xd
19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i just know my mic is fine cuz it works on windows
19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> its a driver issue or smth
19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> thats why i have hopes o nthe kernel release
19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> when i was tocuhing my case for example the noise was much less, since i was protecting the analog cables more or less xD
19:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
19:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Jupstar ✪ so u use nano
19:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> thats no gud
19:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> why should i xD
19:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> why shouldnt i xD
19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> vim isnt preinstalled on my machine
19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> nano is
19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> install vim then
19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> masterrace
19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> idc so much about terminal editors tbh 😄
19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> u srsly edit ddnet code with nano? xd
19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> oh
19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i use proper text editors
19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> vim is a better than "proper text editor"
19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> depends
19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> and coming from a clion user
19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> with enough mods maybe
19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i changed and after u adapt
19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> its gud
19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i use neovim with lot of stuff ofc
19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i think i am fast coding like i trained it
19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i have autocompletion and lot of stuff like a fuzzy finder with fzf which works with the autocompletion and tags too
19:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> `vi` (unlike `vim`) is usually installed on unixy machines
19:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but it was clear ryozuki meant vim here xd
19:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://gist.github.com/Ryozuki/08506fd05cc42d078882939cfa1f680a
19:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> my mess vimrc
19:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> would be more interesting to see a video where u code
19:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> then i could judge if its worth it 😄
19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i hav one
19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> its bit cringey im coding opengl and u will for sure laugh at me
19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> also when i record i dont code like when i dont
19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> u know when u feel watched when u code
19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> u drop ur perfomance a lot
19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
19:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://www.twitch.tv/videos/468992195
19:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> here u have
19:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i dont laugh at ppl who code 😄
19:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i was setting up freetype rendering with opengl
19:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> but now im changing it to use an atlas
19:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> and u know what igot?
19:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> shit
19:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> opengl feels great
19:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/613063849645572115/unknown.png
19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> :D, well i can tell u, i code completly different, i use my mouse alot
19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i like discovering new vim utilities
19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> dt) will delete until )
19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i use this shit a lot
19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> if u have good aim its good xDD
19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xD
19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> its all about getting used
19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i also used a lot mouse when using clion
19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> but i wanted to go full vim
19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> to feel hackerman u know
19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yeah, now u freetype opengl hakrr
19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> my vim theme sucks i need to change it tho
19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i like high contrast
19:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> me too
19:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :justatest:
19:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/613064968513913039/unknown.png
19:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> well atleast u using more modern opengl
19:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> most ppl learn old opengl
19:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> why would u learn old opengl
19:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> and dont understand the whole pipeline process
19:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i think understanding what the hardware does is extremly essential
19:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ah u mean the vertex shader -> fragment -> geometry
19:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> oh wait
19:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> its vertex geo and frag
19:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
19:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i never use geo one
19:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yeah u dont need to 😄
19:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but it also has its use cases
19:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ye
19:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> its just sad that the GL drivers still are sooo buggy
19:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but the more games will use it, the better they get
19:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> vulkan is also in C right?
19:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> what u think about it
19:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> well vulkan is an api too
19:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> it probs has a java implementation too
19:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> since i went only C i had to find a alternative to glm and i found https://github.com/recp/cglm
19:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but yeah vulkan is deffs the better choice if u have the time
19:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but their drivers are also bad
19:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> r u a pro graphics coder?
19:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xD
19:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i would say no
19:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> its not about coding anyway
19:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> its about math and creativity
19:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> im still understand the MVP matrix and the space coords opengl uses
19:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> its a bit confusing at start
19:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> im still understanding the MVP matrix and the space coords opengl uses
19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yeah, but in germany u learn that coordinate system anyway in school, so im fine with it xD
19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> and sadly i wanted to use instead of an atlas for freetype glyps the new feature opengl has called texture arrays
19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> directx is more of a pain for me there xD
19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> but there are 0 tutorial
19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> tutorials*
19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://www.khronos.org/opengl/wiki/Array_Texture
19:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> just imagine what it could be 😄
19:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i mean its self explaining isnt it?
19:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i guess but im still confused
19:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i think tw 0.7 uses that approach
19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> texture arrays for all tiles
19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :o
19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> well ok
19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> it uses 3d textures xD
19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> tw 0.7?
19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yes
19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> why?
19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> to remove the bug of tiles beings rendered shitty
19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> like when zooming out u see lines
19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> isnt that mip mapping
19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> or smth
19:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> in my implementation its fixed by loading a specific mipmap
19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but for older opengl u cant do it that ez
19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> its mipmapping, but u can clamp the texture boundaries in 3d textures
19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> like 1 tile is 64x64
19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> im still surprised by the need of thigns like GLEW due to windows
19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> and not more
19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but if u look into a tile set
19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> on linux only u dont need it right
19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> its 1024x1024
19:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yeah but that doesnt annoy me too much tbh, it gives some kind of downward compability, if u dont have newer opengl headers installed
23:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> hm myghost shows the afk emote all the time :c