12:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Anyone here having experience with lots of WeChat people accessing their website? https://hookrace.net/time.gif seems to be quite popular there right now, and I don't think it's a DoS attack. 12:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/570553838050869258/screenshot-20190424121259.png 12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen redirect them to ddnet.tw:feelsgoodman: 12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] deen? How is your blog related to WeChat? 12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] Are people posting your gif there all over the place? 14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] by wechat u mean weechat? 14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] @developer 14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/570581690809057290/unknown.png 14:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] cant see player lol 14:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] only on this server. i tested other servers and doesnt affect there 14:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] //edit its because he is in solo. 14:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] fix pls 14:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] client version server version thanks 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Syltoox 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] :tee_thinking: 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] @fokkonaut on all servers if someone is in solo. im on 12.2 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] server version 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] i asked the guy tho and he said im invisible too 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] what srv version 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] ddnet 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] ddnet ger 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] server version 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] go in browser and check 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] never heard of that lol 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] 0.6.4 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] XD 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] or smth 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] WTF 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk LOL 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] 0.6.4, x.x.x. 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] 12.2 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] v0.6.4, 12.2 14:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] /info 14:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Syltoox whats ur alpha setting 14:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] well if u are speccing him 14:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] its fixed in next release 14:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] probably 14:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] if u have alpha 0 u wont see him 14:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] put it in the middle 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] what alpha 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah it was on 0 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] i only wanna see him if i pause 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] or spec 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon dunno, I'm just seeing lots of traffic from WeChat's included browser 15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] What would they be looking for? 16:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki also thought about weechat but wechat seems to be a thing as well 16:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen so you probably suspect the same like i do? Do you know that is exectly your gif? Bro your fame! 17:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Just the gif 17:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] its ur gif => ur fame 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] you have to add ads xd 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] bro 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] why the fuck 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] do i see all particles if someone killed 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] i am in a team 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] others in t0 17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] There are some bugs regarding teams should be fixed soon tm 17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Syltoox 17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok 17:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] just dont use teams its not the good social way anways 17:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] hav u showothers enabled 17:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 17:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] cant reproduce it 17:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] if ur using botclient we cant fix it eh 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hey, I have a problem with my serverside dummies. This is the order to get to my problem: 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] 1. connect to the server 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] 2. connect some server dummies 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] 3. connect client dummy (the one you can control, from ddnet client) 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] 4. disconnect server dummies 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] 5. disconnect client dummy 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] 6. connect client dummy 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] 7. connect server dummies -> one of them needs to have the ID that the client dummy had before 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] RESULT: the dummy is stuck as long as the tee with the same id as the dummy before is connected. (only dummy) 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] does anyone know why, or what could go wrong or how i can fix it? maybe some variables wrong set on dummydisconnect? 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] rip irc 18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh that is the bug ddnet++ has as well huh? So the server dummy gets the name and skin etc of your dummy but u loose control over your own dummy. 18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] No xD 18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] no? 18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] oke 18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] There are man bugs in ddnet++ 18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Many of them are fixed im BD 18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] mimimi 18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] u 18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] but ddnet client dummy is bit buggy ya 18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] now stop spam i want relevant people to read my message 18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] After thinking about it a while I don't think time score is a gameinfo flag 18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] but rather a playerflag 18:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] relevant people 18:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol 18:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 yes 18:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] noby will cry if you add a playerflag 19:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] Why 19:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] couldn’t identify ath through playerflags anymore 19:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] just send additional packets 19:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] and noby can check for them and see its latest ddnet 19:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] then ath can send them too? 19:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 19:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] ath could alsop not use these playerflags to be sneaky 19:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] but they dont 19:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] they need the playerflag for a feature 19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] they could user other stuff for the feature too 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] nvm#was stupid 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] which would be similar trackable 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] they cant 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] ya rip onby maybe he has to add a real bot protection then hehe 19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/570662091485085706/unknown.png 19:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] 0 19:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] we could use a DDNetPlayerFlags netobj 19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] :O 19:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] hope nothing breaks 19:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] wait, you didn't test it? 19:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] i did 19:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] goo 19:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] d 19:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] but u know testing it only urself idk if thats testing at all 19:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 19:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] and there is also new pred code 19:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] well, for the pred code we had a beta test of sorts 19:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] well mine shouldnt break anything at worst maybe someon find a bug on test server using super 19:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i dont think so 19:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] For whom it may concern: https://vscodium.com/ -- Free/Libre Open Source Software Binaries of VSCode 19:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] if i want an editor i use vim if i want an ide i use clion :P 19:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] but well vscode is good 19:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] gr8 ryozuki is now a vim extremist 19:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] e.e 19:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] well u can use vim on most editors using a vim plugin 19:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] anyway 19:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] but its not true vim 19:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] people who are proficient with vim are very impressive 19:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea 19:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] i want to master it too 19:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you ever watched geohot code on stream it looks like magic half the time 19:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_af_qes-34 i found this funny but i dont think that the guy got lot of vim skillz 19:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] mostly editing speed doesn't matter anyway, you're supposed to think about code and not just write it down 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] :feelsbadman: 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] but its cool anyway 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah, it's like a performance though 19:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] exactly, it looks cool 😄 20:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] whoever manages skins rn should add https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=17&p=67818 20:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] you have a skin db account yourself mate 20:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 20:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] err i forgot pasword xd 20:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao write changelog :ninja: 20:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] [11:59 AM] jao: noby will cry if you add a playerflag 20:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah pls no 20:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] why 20:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think we need to add a player flag 20:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] so many servers now rely on "playerflags >= 32" to decide if it a cheat client 20:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] for paused 20:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] :troll: 20:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 20:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] if its only for paused then i guess it wont matter 20:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] since /pause doesnt work on those servers 20:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki you write 20:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] ill do in 20 mins 20:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] while I'm all for messing with bot detection, I don't think we should add playerflags 20:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] an extended object for our own playerflags sounds like a better idea 20:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] why do u want to mess with bot detection 20:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] cuz its fun 20:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] to see other devs cry 20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] :troll: 20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] you are evil 20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't like the idea of bot detection, it's something inherently impossible 20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] just show other devs your code that’s enough to make them cry 20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] its impossible to do something perfectly so why try to do it atall 20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] :pepeH: 20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] so I find their efforts futile, and people who do futile things over and over tend to enjoy said thing 20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 living ur life is futile too since u will end up dying 20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] which implies they are masochists, which implies messing with them is good for them 20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] ur masochist by living 20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] :troll: 20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] this ass-backwards logic is why ddnet has so many botters 20:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] I so want to leak a bot you can't detect just so you'd shut up about this... 20:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe you can’t protect against all bots, but you can for certain ones 20:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] id do the same for ddnet i dont think u want to start this 20:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] also wow shit admin :lol: 20:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] :monkaS: 20:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] See, I don't mind bots, I fully know there is no way to detect them 20:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] cant detect every single bot ever so why try to detct any atal 20:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] cant detect every single bot ever so why try to detct any atall 20:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] the only thing we can do is keeping the leaderboards clean 20:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] @onby well its true i think u never had to deal with a botter who writes his own bot and its not a skid 20:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] even sio's mess of a bot is undetectable 20:14 <@heinrich5991> undetectable is a big word 20:14 <@heinrich5991> you can try to detect it by behavior 20:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] sure you can do some heuristics, but introduce some noise and that goes down th drain 20:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] heinrich 👁 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] u dont need a perfect bot to win a human 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] add some error 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe deep neural nets can find something about it's behaviour to detect, but they'd be too much of a performance hit to run real time 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah this is what people try to make the bots take longer to detect and it works but i dont think it would work forever 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] depends on what type of bot 20:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] I saw an edge bot that even had a setting for failed attempts 20:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] what 20:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] it fell off the edge a couple times before getting it 20:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont think thats a setting xd 20:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] also i think edgehook has some pixel margin for error 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] it does 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] depending on where theyre hooking from 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] at that point you don’t have to care about the bot anymore 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] It was literally called `cl_edge_fcount` 😛 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol srsly 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] what is the point 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] it looks like a person actually trying to edge 20:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] they could just not use the bot then xd 20:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea xd 20:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] then it would actually be a person trying to edge 20:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] when it's safe you up the fcount, when it counts you put it down to 0 20:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] your fancy heuristics all think it's a person 20:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] ive never tried to detect movement bots atall idk what fancy heuristics u talking about but the way the edgebots ive seen rely on fast a+d spam and prediction it seems like there are a couple ways u could at least try to detect it 20:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] like a human wont predict the same way everytime 20:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] but a bot theoretically will 20:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Is anyone writing the changelog already? @jao @Ryozuki ? 20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] i said in 20 mins but i f uwant u can do it 20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] i just want to finish my anime 20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm not 20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] :pepeH: 20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] 20 mins is good 20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] didn't read anymore when the rage discussions started 20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol 20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] :ddnet: 20:30 <+Learath2> don't get me wrong, I enjoy talking about it about as much as you enjoy reading it... 20:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen does the pr from the prediction code only affects antiping on or its general prediction too? 20:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] all prediction 20:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice an empty bullet points @Ryozuki 21:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] pure html 21:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] best html 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] :poggers: 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/570685827143827494/screenshot_2019-04-24_21-01-05.png 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] sorry, fixed 😄 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol? the ddnet client renders html? 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] :o 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] it parses it probably 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] i didnt do that tho 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] No, I do that manually 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] deen nobo 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] and saved too early by accident 21:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] o.O i rendered something 21:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] first time i rendereed something in tw client xd 21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] im proud of you @ChillerDragon 21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] good job chiller 21:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] i started with @Im 'corneum suggestion 😃 21:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] can i self assign me to this issue so nobody steals it -.- 21:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] im slow coder 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] ty 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] mi hero 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] I assigned you 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't think you can self assign 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe i ddint find the buttonbut seems like a permissions thing 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/570691522169929738/screenshot_2019-04-24_21-23-55.png 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] daily fng screenshot @onby 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh and btw before i spend too much timne on it any veto for the feature? 21:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] :feelsamazingman: 21:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] onby is testing his bots :troll: 21:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 21:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you wanna make this really good then it should show stuff like endless superjump etc too 21:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] i would go with only weapons first 21:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] it can be added later 21:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] imo weapons look good i decided to remove ninja to not spam too much 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] why show hammer and pistol 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] superjump is notnging you switch to so maybe display it in another place 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] useless info 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] this is too see what weapon you have in freeze 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats the whole point 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't like it then xd 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] uff 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] useless 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea maybe render it ingame would be better 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] use keyboard 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] above the tee on switch 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] many people scroll 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/570695750430883870/kxx25a1xe7u21.png 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] xddd 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] debian best 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] void linux best 21:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] mint best 23:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] omg 23:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] so many useless issues 23:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] 😄 23:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] SpammerDragon xd 23:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] where did i do sytle mistakes @Ryozuki ? :c 23:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] praise ur vanilla code again 23:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] if u cant realize it urself 23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] jeez tell me 23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] u shouldnt tell shit about vanilla compat 23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] :troll: 23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] -.- 23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] why even try no one wants that pr 23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] corneum fan 23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 23:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] nah i agree the scoreboard is a bad idea i just wanted to try it and see what problems i come across and open a discussion. Becuase it is indeed sometimes a problem for scrollers that they dont know what weapon they have in freeze 23:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] especially when the mate waits with the hammer you dont pull up the console and type +weaponX 23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon Rendered 23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] and its such a bad word 23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] anyway 23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] ikr 23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] assumed that 23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] did u notice the style error or not 23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] i knew it was a bad word 23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] but not the sytle error 23:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] local vars are caps 23:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] R not r 23:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk style for local vars -.- 23:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah 23:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] unless u use a prefix 23:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] too much other styley latley for me 23:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] but im not sure if i ever floowed that convention 23:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah only the 1 letter vars are lower 23:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] like float f 23:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] x y z 23:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon can you debug the score hud thing? 23:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] im so confused 23:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] makes zer0 sense to me 23:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] might be my compiler???? 23:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] im too tired rn i would only come to shitty conclusions but i will look into it