00:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> @ᶰ°Konͧsti check the source code regarding chat. if you don't trust the source code, your trust problem is not related to teehistorian
00:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> The only abuse come from the Staff
00:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> your logs save the chat
00:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> so
00:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> server logs are saved for a day, and then deleted
00:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> teehistorian does not record chat
00:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> takes the fun out of the game when i cant do my startlineskip without being watched anymore :GWaobaPePeCry:
00:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> that is the intent of teehistorian
00:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> :banhammer:
00:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> that such cheats can be detected
00:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> better care for botters
00:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> cheats are ok in ddrace
00:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> actually startlineskip is not ok xd
00:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> too op
00:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> yeah but cheating parts
00:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> xD
00:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> if you wouldnt waste our time with cheating we would have more time to care about botters konsti
00:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> just dont do anything about map cheats then :ww:
00:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> Why waste your time on simple cheaters instead of game destroying botters
00:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> because all decrease the fun for others 🙂
00:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> no they dont
00:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> botting has no fun in it
00:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> mappers don't like their maps being cheated
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> too bad
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> thats what testing is for
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> then they dont have to map shit
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> cheating maps has a lot fun, watching thousands of maps, detecting, testing and realizing it for hours
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> thats fun
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> botting is fun for someone too
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> @ᶰ°Konͧsti agree
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> @jao no
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> lol you talk so much bullshit today
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> yeah but seeing other ppl cheat is fun
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> only for < 12 year olds
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> no botters dont have fun at botting
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> because its cool
00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> they just want to have an unfair advantage
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> don't speak for others if you make such statements
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> "I'm doing it for fun" "I can't possibly imagine other people having fun at what they do"
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> why is this shit talk in dev channel?
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> when i talk with people and show some of my cheats they are really interested in it
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> hypocrisy is strong in konsti
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> like qshar
00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> @ᶰ°Konͧsti me too
00:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> nobody is interested in someone is botting
00:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> #konstiforpresident
00:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> yea and maybe someone likes to see how someone bots a map
00:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> yeah finding cheats and doing them is interesting
00:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> so one isn't better than the other
00:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> "why is this shit talk in #developer" continues…
00:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> Move to #general now lol
00:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> who wants to see bots
00:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> ban u
00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @heinrich5991 can u confirm me that ger under ddos?
00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Packets: 1.90 kpps / 2.48 kpps
00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> I don't know how to do that
00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :feelsbadman:
02:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> This can be removed, right? 
02:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp#L141
02:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> Since this is the HandleJetpack() function, and this line is handled in FireWeapon()
08:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> @Ryozuki i think the ddos filter of our hoster went haywire yet again. I had the same problem, then restarted client and it was gone. So it depends some pattern in your packets and blocks a large part of them
10:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Cellegen> @jao do you even know the difference between cheating maps legally or illegally?
11:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <archimede67> Any idea why the grabbers aren't working anymore?
11:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <archimede67> 
11:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <archimede67> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/568002542785527809/unknown.png
11:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <archimede67> 
11:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <archimede67> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/568002566403784715/unknown.png
11:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> lol
11:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> @deen thats the second player today complaining about non working switches! important!
11:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <archimede67> its weird
12:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <bit> @deen chn trashmap daemon error again:pepeH:
12:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> wtf it worked for me when corneum reported it
12:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Is it only with draggers?
12:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Maybe https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1604 or https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1605 are at fault
12:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Anyone here who can test the draggers right now?
12:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> its only with draggers as far as i see
12:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> doors work
12:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> I can
12:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> ok, then it's probably my chance
12:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> change*
12:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> What map has draggers?
12:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <n000b> A lot of maps have them actually, i dont remember names tho:feelsbadman:
12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> Sky Stone
12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> startline skip now in theory but you cant reach startline to start time, only finish
12:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> please test on empty server in 1 min
13:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> Works again
13:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> @deen why did you add these std::couts?
13:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> and why exactly didnt the memory leak fix work?
13:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> yea true tw style would be dbg_msg() or atleast printf()
13:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> 
13:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> we are not at ur work @deen :p
13:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> @ChillerDragon not even printf()
13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> why does leaking pointers help i wonder 😛
14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> haha
14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> I was in a hurry to be fair 😄
14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> @deen well you clearly debugged it a little, any idea why they get free'd unexpectedly
14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> ?
14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> They get freed immediately
14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> I thought the destructor would get called once the map is over...
14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> But apparently not, needs to be fixed properly by keeping the CDraggerTeam alive until the end of the map
14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> see gamecontroller.cpp
14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> it just creates CDraggerTeam, doesn't assign it anywhere
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> then it gets deleted once it goes out of scope, which is immediately
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> oh, I see
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> there are also other "new CGun" things in there
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> so need to fix those too I guess
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> huh, how did this ever work?
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> yeah i also noticed those
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> is the destructor new?
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> by just allocating more and more memory 😄
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> yeah, I added it
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> because I assumed it was leaking memory
14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> (which it is to be fair)
14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> the `CGun`'s are also leaking I guess
14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> is new CGun creating a gun projectile or?
14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> also the `CLight`, there is a bit of a mess there 😛
14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> yes
14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> well, there's a reason I restart the servers once a day 😄
14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> oh yeah most projectiles are simply created with new and forgotten in the oblivion
14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> tbh, I don't even know how ddrace plasmas work
14:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> the answer is: barely 😄
14:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> is CGun the entity we use to shoot the plasma?
14:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> plasma u mean laser?
14:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> dunno
14:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> plasma are the little flying ones 😛
14:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/d12ad9d05fb7e2d1759857be1f21f73d8c5f1be9/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp#L539 beutiful code
14:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I guess all those entities belong in an array to be free'd OnMapChange
14:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> How does Memory Leaking "work"? How to free stuff? I have some self made entities, what do I need to be aware of?
14:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> google it
14:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> learn
14:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> or actually it belongs on the destructor of `CGameController`
14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> server setting deepfly off should only made deepfly impossible and not weapons like grenade or laser because deep dummy rocket can be used by mappers
14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> Or is there a way to make it only for hammer?
14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> are you sure that it disables those
14:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> The rocket hits only the dummy itself not the player
14:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> Ah nvm
14:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> there is a hammer off tile in the map
14:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> xd
14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> @ᶰ°Konͧsti you can use switch layer hammer off and make delay 0, them ONLY hammer is off
14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> it uses the weapon numbers, WEAPON_HAMMER = 0, gun, shotgun, grenade, rifle, ninja
15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> @Learath2 the CGun is that stable plasma, which spawns new CPlasmas if a player is nearby (they can freeze, unfreeze, explode)
18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> @Tezcan @timakro 
18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> 
18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> played a game on unique battlefly server with rqza 
18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> 
18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> he used macOS ddnet10~ i used windows 10 ddnet11.7.2
18:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> 
18:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> we are both unable to view the demos http://puu.sh/Dg3Fp/87fc4d475d.png
18:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> 
18:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/568108921571770428/flying2fruity_2019-04-17_18-12-07.demo
18:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> any idea? also on how to restore the dope kills from rqza
18:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ddnet11.7.2
18:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ew
18:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> stfu mr gcc-8 xd
18:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ?
18:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> its a standard
18:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> we should use c++17
18:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> they got a new cool filesystem interface
18:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> and parallelism
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ```cpp
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> std::vector<int> v = genLargeVector();
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> // standard sequential sort
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> std::sort(v.begin(), v.end());
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> // explicitly sequential sort
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> std::sort(std::seq, v.begin(), v.end());
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> // permitting parallel execution
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> std::sort(std::par, v.begin(), v.end());
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> // permitting vectorization as well
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> std::sort(std::par_unseq, v.begin(), v.end());```
18:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/filesystem
18:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ```cpp
18:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> const auto [it, inserted] = map.insert( {"foo", bar} );``` this is cool too
18:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314776480880132097/568111696967761940/unknown.png :poggers:
18:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @ChillerDragon what u have to say
18:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> im not a fan of c++ yet
18:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ye ur fan of shit tw code
18:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
18:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <timakro> no idea @ChillerDragon , never looked at this gametype
18:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> pretty sure its more the map than the gametype @timakro
18:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> pls test and fix 😃 it is really sad to loose fly demos
18:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> @bit works again, thanks for report
18:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <bit> @deen thank u:brownbear:
20:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <archimede67> nice
23:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> what i would like is a search function like totele x for switches
23:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> Sometimes really hard to find a special switch
23:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> Also it would be nice to not only find Where a tele leads to but to find where the from teles are
23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> and how should that work
23:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> toswitch x ?xd
23:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> as testing command
23:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> xd
23:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> ok
23:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> konsti but what switch
23:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> activator deactivator..?
23:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> maybe togreen x, tored x
23:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> It doesnt need to be exact just to not have to search in a huge map forever
23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> @Ryozuki here?
23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> y
23:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> how do you test the solo thing?
23:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> with a dummy and making it solo and ur main tee not
23:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> then coloding with it
23:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> coliding
23:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> what should happen?
23:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> on a non fixed client u would notice a rly weird movement
23:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> try it
23:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> client/server
23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> u also will see the other tee with some transparency
23:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> if u have it enabled
23:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> @Learath2 can we discuss the CNetObj_DDNetGameInfo tomorrow?
23:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> okay I call this done
23:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> Or can you add it?
23:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> what ucall done?
23:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xD
23:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1628
23:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> Can you make the DDNetGameInfo aswell?
23:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> And can you fix it for dummy?
23:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <fokkonaut> so basically close my pr and make one xd
23:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <WhiteKitty> Hi, I want to create my mod  (city) and I only need a new src folder, so that I can start the  coding my city