00:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] http://puu.sh/AzLNp/6b5a77ef04.png 00:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 thes nums are actually provided by the NSA arent they? 00:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] are there no problems with older linux system with that long names? 00:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] what is max map name for maps? 00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] #developer just became #media xd 00:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] hopefully (at)jao#5991 wont recognize our secret activity here 00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] i only find max_name length at 255bytes \0 00:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] but im not quite sure how linux handles the name files actually 00:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ no 00:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] the only problematic thing is windows 00:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] as always xd 00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] windows has (by default at least) a limit of 260 characters for the full path to files 00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] fuul path!`wtf 00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] paths can get long 00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] chiller ofc only older windows 00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] modern has 32k or smth 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ no. even windows 10 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] hm 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] xdddd 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] as long as you don't use `\\?\` paths 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] no jao spotted us 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] pss 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] remove the media 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] there's an option in windows 10 now to enable the new 32k limit 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] but it's opt-in for now 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] so I couldnt use your cool sha2048? 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] do you have a source for the linux limit tho? 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] by the file system, I think 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] i see the full path can be 4096 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] 256 per component, `MAX_PATH` is 4096 IIRC 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Max. filename length 255 bytes 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe we need a file storing tge hashes 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] no wait that doesnt make sense 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] whyß 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] why? 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] a database? 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] what is tws limit for filenames then? 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] because the the file name is not enough space 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] 255 - 64 - 4 ? 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] why should your map name be longer than 100 chars? 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] just wodnering, if the editor should disallow that then 00:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] meh 00:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] just people's own fault 00:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] k xd 00:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] http://puu.sh/AzMhJ/372134c6fd.png 00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] now I see why everyone hates microsoft 00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] but yeah older ext version all fine ok, thats what i wanted 00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] weclome in the club @lola 00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont hate them, neither i love them 00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] they have the most glitchless desktop enviroment IMO 00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ you can't be like that 00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] but dont hate too much keep in mind all this data is public and archived @lola 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] macOS is glitchlesser 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] macos is the glitch 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] but I don't share my data, how it can be public? 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] BSD is the best 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] BSd c: 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] but too old drivers always xD 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] i never tested it et 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] its on the long todo 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] and KDE has glitches too 00:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] windows 10 is not that bad as 8 00:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] believe me 00:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] well linux is awesome for developping things 00:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] but GUIs arent great in many apps. depends on if you like to use them or not 00:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] I want developing things 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] then i suggest you something like debian 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] but I don't know how to start 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] sololearn.com 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] add me as friend there is my main handgout 24/7 00:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmmmm 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] for real as a beginner i can really recommend this site it is very motivating c: 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] with rankings and xp and stuff 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] just never learn java, or i get cancer 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] hehe 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] i am planing to make that course 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] even tho i really dislike java somehow 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] but its fame and i guess it will help me some day since a lot of stuff is written in it 00:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] i mostly hate that android's system uses JNI and shit. and java is slow 00:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] so its wasting my good energy 00:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] java is surprisingly fast 00:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 00:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] enterprise software is what's slow 00:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] the problem is useless RAM wasting, useless Array checks. Exceptions 00:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] i never heard of fast java apps 00:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] all expierences i had with java were slow .-. 00:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] no. array checks and exceptions are not what is slowing down java programs 00:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] well ofc bytecode too 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] which is JITed 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] i.e. compiled at runtime 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] but the problem is the more RAM must be loaded, the more RAM comes in action 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes wow 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] so much better than compiling before 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] especially for dektop enviroments using x86_64 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's not what I said 00:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] but I don't think your claim "java is slow" is really true 00:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] e.g. intellij idea is a piece of java software that is well-done 00:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think there is 00:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] any overhead creates makes something slow 00:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 00:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] otherwise c++ would be dead slow 😛 00:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] because it creates overhead over C 00:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] indeed 00:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] but it's not 00:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] that makes it a few nanoseconds slower than c 00:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] but that isn't what makes some piece of software feel slow 00:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] and even that is wrong 00:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] that depends on the feature set you use 00:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] indeed, but if you have a high performance algorithm or a game you feel it 00:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] well sure, if you write a loop adding 1 to your register 00:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] no. not whether you compiled your code with c or c++ 00:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] java might be just as fast wow xD 00:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] java is indeed not the language I'd choose for games 00:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah c and c++ are near to each other, but having objects with vtables etc. needs more RAM loading 00:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] that is slow 00:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] what's bad for performance in java is e.g. that there's no way to create value types 00:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] i.e. types that aren't boxed 00:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats what i meant with their RAM wasting actually 00:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] everything is an object 00:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's not a problem 00:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] the boxing is the problem 00:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can put everything in C++ classes as you wish, that won't slow down runtime 00:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] [it will slow down compile time a little] 00:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] and how is that not a problem then 00:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] the slower compile time you mean? 00:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] no, you mean the problem is it isn't boxed.. ofc it's not boxed, since everything is an object.. you only store references. 00:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] boxed = behind a reference 00:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] at least that's how I know the term 00:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 00:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] so where is that not a problem? 00:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] problematic for java performance is that you can't declare [except for primitive types] that something shouldn't be boxed 00:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] creating an object in java is that isnt it 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] as soon you create something it's an object(a reference 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes [unless it gets killed by escape analysis] 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] any object in java has it's address and stuff you can access 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes. but that's not really a problem of objects 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] and its class name xD 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] C++ has objects, too 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] indeed 00:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can increase the class size instead of pointing to the object 00:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] i know what you mean, but you sad its not a problem 00:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't understand 00:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] boxed = boxing things together 00:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] 4 floats make a class 4 * 4 bytes 00:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] in java floats are boxable 00:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] but Floats not 00:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] because Floats are objects xD 00:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] something like that 00:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay, then we have different definitions of 'box' 00:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] the problem I wanted to mention is that everything has to be behind a pointer 00:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] well that's atleast i imagine as the definition of the word xD 00:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah thats the consequence 00:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] if its not boxable 00:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's not a "default" datatype 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok, can you stop using that word? if we have different definitions, it's not useful 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes. the problem we [apparently?] both agree on is that you can't have value types, types that aren't behind a pointer 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can't create aggregations of values that aren't possibly put behind another allocation 00:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] mh ok, boxing is meant like putting it in 00:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] so. then – have you tried intellij? it's a nice piece of software …written in java 🙂 00:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah probably the opposite of what i thought 00:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] whats special about intellij 00:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] i mean i used android studio 00:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] or dont u mean the IDE 00:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean the IDE 00:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] you asked for a good piece of java software. I think that's one of them 00:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah from idea wise sure 00:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] android studio 🤢 00:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] but in the end i care about performance 00:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] minecraft java is also a good game 00:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] doesnt mean it performce well 00:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] Always took 30 mins to start at univ 00:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] no. it's not well written IMO 00:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] can't work on this ide 00:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Amu~Cookie mh. doesn't here. and I don't have a good PC 00:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] i doubt u can increase the performance alot 00:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] android studio ? 00:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Amu~Cookie yes 00:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] the mobile version (and win10 version) works better 00:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] since it uses some c++ framework i think 00:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] of what? 00:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] minecraft 00:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] how do you tell its badly written 00:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] I believe these had more constraints than the normal version 00:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] i.e. less block height, etc. 00:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] not really anymore 00:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok 00:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] minecraft java is always a bit more modern 00:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] but chunk loading etc is insanly much faster 00:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] or TNT explosion 00:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have a terrible experience with android studio because it's alway seem to do huge task on startup @heinrich5991 but that's was more than 2 year ago so I dont know now 00:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Amu~Cookie perhaps the machines have too little RAM 00:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's usually the first reason why programs start slowing down 00:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon https://www.laurencegellert.com/software/github-graph-builder/ 00:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] and the whole plugin(overwrite) stuff makes java slow at startup 00:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] dunno if google uses complete own impl tho 01:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah 01:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] But now I rethink about it. It was probably a huge server issue combined with ram. Since the data were stored on server that sometime took us more than 20 minutes to start only our windows session. 01:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 01:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/ 01:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol @heinrich5991 i already thought about faking it... it sucks that there is even a full automated website for it 01:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] well my art is going to be real and it has some flaws due its realness c: 02:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] http://puu.sh/AzQqZ/9c3d34a3fc.png 02:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] good morning! 02:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] time for another commit c: 02:41 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] ChillerDragon opened pull request #1137: Update credits (master...UpdateCredits) https://git.io/vhREm 02:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] hehe full selfpushing @heinrich5991 i took that serious :p 02:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] shaemless elfppromotion xd 02:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] what a waste xd im not allowed to use github until sunday .-. 02:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] why 02:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] i want to draw a ❤ 02:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] pixelart in my contributons graph 02:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] http://puu.sh/AzQUG/f108030634.png 02:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah good luck 😉 02:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye thanks c: huughe project 02:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] guess ima check rl for a few days c: 02:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] good night @dezveloperz and lola 07:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 Intellij while a very decent IDE it really is a memory-hog it easily takes up 2-3 gigs 07:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Java is quite fast nowadays but when working with low latency applications or very high volumes `quite-fast - raw-speed` grows very quickly 07:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] the lax nature of these languages and their reliance on a GC makes them very prone to be memory hogs 07:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] also generally the performance comparisons you get between the language conveniently take out the java startup time and the JIT getting used to the patterns, yet the users experience the startup time 08:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't Know If i did something wrong but i once used newlines in a console application in in Java to refresh the "frame". 08:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] 08:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] And you could see the text moving slowly up. With any Other language it looked like a clear screen 09:48 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vhRSD 09:48 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master 8a761bf ChillerDragon: Add commands for switching pages in console... 09:48 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master 08c45ce Dennis Felsing: Merge pull request #1133 from ChillerDragon/ConsolePages... 09:49 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vhRSd 09:49 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master 522c893 ChillerDragon: Update credits 09:49 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master e72413c Dennis Felsing: Merge pull request #1137 from ChillerDragon/UpdateCredits... 10:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] thanks deen c: 11:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] adding yourself to credits is bad luck 😛 12:51 < ***> Buffer Playback... 12:51 <+bridge> [12:50:28] [ddnet] 😀 12:51 < ***> Playback Complete. 13:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 yup. startup time and latency is parts where java doesn't shine 13:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] in fact, try making a console command with java – it won't work, startup latency is too big 13:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] 0.25 seconds for a hello world program on my computer 13:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 ikr and it feelt really weird but heinrich said it so i coudlnt resist. This was a hughe goal in my life for a long time c: 13:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye thats what i also exoirenced with my console app in java 17:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] wasnt there a way to have clear entities with the map background? i forgot the settings 17:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Background can be removes by settings-ddnet- show quads @timakro 17:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] With this helpfull advise i can get in the credits too right? 17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] i want overlay/clear entities with the map background 17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont want to hide the map background 17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] %current% 17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] @timakro 17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] i remember what do i do with this string again? 17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] settings->ddnet->background(entities)-> Map: %current% 17:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] thanks! 17:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hmm nice trick tezcan should be creditted instead of me :0 18:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] developers could you pls change the maximum filesize limit for avatars on the forum? 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] My friend want to use this avatar but forum says its big 18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/453954762233217044/chatttttt.gif 18:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] @lola u think developer is a graphic designer? 18:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] ;_; 18:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] no, but they can change that limit on the forum, don't be silly 18:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] what forum 18:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] that forum 18:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] ddnet 18:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] ? 18:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 18:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] soo ask someone who did this website (webmaster) 18:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i dont think they change this for u 18:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol 18:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] but I don't know who is that, I better ask @Dev 18:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf 18:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] fuk off lola 18:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think every developer can do that but they are too lazy 18:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://ddnet.tw/staff/ 18:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @onby oh you are developer too? I thought you are bot hunter 18:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Trip | 𝙏𝙧𝙞𝙢𝙮 𝙎𝙩𝙪𝙙𝙞𝙤 there is no "webmaster" 18:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] ;-; 18:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] omg 19:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] who shitted you 19:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] -:- 19:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Trip | 𝙏𝙧𝙞𝙢𝙮 𝙎𝙩𝙪𝙙𝙞𝙤 kys 19:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] I got this found bugs, because some score bugged. 19:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/453968131061448704/unknown.png 19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] im there 19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 19:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] whats bugged? 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] @lola score players 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah maybe @lola can fix it 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] no @n000b, lola won't fix it now 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] And if he can't he is uselss and deserves a ban 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] I dont understand why its bugged? 😦 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] !!! 19:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] :banhammer: 19:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] his bugged 19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] what's wrong with this last pic? 19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] not wrong his picture, this founded some bugs 20:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] Is tw/ddnet using opengl? 20:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] I wonder why apple deprecates it 20:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye we newly added it as far as i remember 20:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't even know what it is 20:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] Is it for the graphical rendering? 20:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye 20:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] Okay and why is it bad, 20:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] we also use SDL and SDL2 i guess 20:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] Okay and why is it bad? 21:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] but this opengl is some new feature i think 21:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] you mean why apple stops the support? 21:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Gabbo opengl is not bad 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] apple wants devs to use Metal instead of OpenGL 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] cuz apple 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh I see 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] But Metal is apple-only right? 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] y 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] wow #surprise #unexpected #new 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] thanks for enlightening me Ryozuki 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki daiyl hero 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] btw i finally have my stuff working i guess @Ryozuki 21:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i have to wait until sunday to shop it .-. 21:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] ship* 21:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] why? 21:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] contribution limitations to create a nice pixl art in my graph 21:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] u will see soon as u just became folower 21:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] and visit my github profile every day 21:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] c: 21:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] ChillerDragon you talking about your job? what is it? 21:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] job? xd 21:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] im still in school 21:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] im done with school next thursday if things go well c: 21:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] i was talking about shipping ddnet++ code which i do as a hobby c: 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon teeworlds/ddnet always used opengl, the recent updates are only using a newer version and more features of opengl 21:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah oke 21:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Gabbo as i said i wasnt sure about it but heinrich is boss 21:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon what do you study 21:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 obrigado 21:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] obrigado? 21:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] Thank you in Portuguese 21:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] clasical german abitur @Gabbo no study yet its same as high school i guess 21:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] im planning on studying computer scienece 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon Oh it's the "general" school? 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] @RafaelFF vc é pt? 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 du sollesst mehr sprachen lernen 😄 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon so you're pretty young actually 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] ruski 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well everyone is, I forgot it's teeworlds 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] je ne comprends pas le français 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] im pretty slow at school actually im 19 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 ich kann nicht deutsch verstehen 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] word order! 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] nazi 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 word order. 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] "ich kann deutsch nicht verstehen" 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 word order? 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] heinrich grammer nazi 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] my german teacher is gonna beat me up 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] better learn rus 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] rus > ger 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] deutsch ist zu kompliziert 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] f3 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] weil ich französe bin 21:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] i once had zer0 points in a german exame xd 21:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ich habe alle allein deutsch gelernt 21:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] wp 21:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] #developer ?? 21:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 21:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] only dev talk here 21:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] we are talking about languages 21:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] meh – a little off topic is fine. we had that in #ddnet on IRC as well 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] SO AS I WAS SAYING \*arhm\* I believe the c function of ddnet shall be rewritten 21:44 * bridge [ddnet] doesn't code 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] me neither 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] then what exactly are your PRs, @ChillerDragon ? 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] 😛 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well I understand code and review a bit but I'm not into maths 21:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] was my cat running on the keyboard @heinrich5991 21:44 * bridge [ddnet] -> sysadmin -> Coders hero 21:44 * bridge [ddnet] -> sysadmin -> Coders' hero 21:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] 👍 21:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] I ran to the sysadmin of my faculty at university the other day 21:45 <+fstd> ^ that is a unicode that even my utf-8 view can't even 21:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] they were very helpful 21:45 <@heinrich5991> that's just some discord emoji 21:46 <@heinrich5991> it replaces stuff automatically 21:46 <+fstd> ah 21:46 <+fstd> he a unix person? 21:46 <+fstd> the sysadmin, i mean 21:46 <@heinrich5991> he's running macos on his work station 21:46 <@heinrich5991> but he seemed competent 21:47 <@heinrich5991> after determining that the next problem lies with the university's (and not the faculty's) computer systems, I went there 21:47 <@heinrich5991> and experienced the opposite 21:47 <@heinrich5991> I talked to the help desk guy 21:47 <+fstd> well what does he run on his servers tho? :) 21:47 <@heinrich5991> we have linux I think 21:48 <@heinrich5991> the help desk guy was the opposite of useful 21:48 <@heinrich5991> the first question I asked was "where is the sysadmin?" the answer was "what's the problem?" 21:49 <+fstd> yeah that doesn't really sound like a good start tho.. 21:49 <@heinrich5991> "the stunnel for the mysql connections from my faculty to your systems on port 13008 seems to be down" 21:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] http://puu.sh/AAjLW/9d5b01d3c8.jpg 21:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] coder cat 21:50 <@heinrich5991> he goes on to call someone, omitting all the details 21:50 <+fstd> mhh 21:50 <@heinrich5991> he tells me to write an email to the user's help address 21:51 <@heinrich5991> I ask whether I can go to the sysadmin, but no, important computer systems are on the way to their office 21:52 <@heinrich5991> fortunately someone had the nice idea of searching the staff listing for a person who might be the one I needed 21:52 <@heinrich5991> and indeed, found a phone number, called it. 30s later it was working again 21:52 <+fstd> hah i was just gonna recommend trying to find that in the DNS :D 21:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] everything that we write here is relayed on IRC? 21:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 21:52 <+fstd> it's a shame that you aren't actually on IRC tho 21:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] so fstd knows when I say that he is not smart? 21:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 21:53 < Gabee> Hi 21:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] in fact, since IRC hiliting works a bit differently from Discord hiliting, he'll even get a popu 21:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] p 21:53 <+Gabee> Wow it really works 21:53 <@heinrich5991> you're starting weechat as root? 21:53 <@heinrich5991> sounds like a good idea 21:53 <+fstd> i'm not smart enough to understand what the "popup" is trying to tell me 21:53 <+Gabee> heinrich5991: ye 21:53 <+Gabee> heinrich5991: weechat in gnome-terminal 21:53 <+Gabee> in the root session 21:53 <+Gabee> on rdp 21:54 <+Gabee> but it's safe I log IPs 21:54 <@heinrich5991> what if your IRC client has a bug? 21:54 <@heinrich5991> instant root access? ^^ 21:54 <+Gabee> It has no bug it's weechat 21:54 <+fstd> talk about smart 21:54 <@heinrich5991> fstd: I don't know – an LED, warning lights, a window popup, etc. 21:54 <+fstd> but regarding rdp, there's been a huge vulnerability just the other week 21:54 <+fstd> you better have that p atched 21:54 <+Gabee> nice heinrich5991 21:54 <+Gabee> you're on arch 21:55 <+Gabee> fstd: I'm trolling 21:55 <+Gabee> if you guys don't believe me ctcp version me 21:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon ill also do some kind of abitur in some days D: 21:55 <+fstd> heinrich5991: it beeps my terminal bell and causes the message to be yellow and also appear in a different part of the window 21:55 <@heinrich5991> Gabee: https://weechat.org/doc/security/ – oh true, look at it, all the security vulnerabilities are fixed 21:55 <+Gabee> the whole rdp / root / gnome is obviously a troll guys 21:55 <+fstd> you don't seem to troll well 21:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] cool @Ryozuki c: 21:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] i already did a lot of abitur im like 4/5 21:55 <+Gabee> well you believed me :c 21:56 <+Gabee> anyway 21:56 <+fstd> doesn't speak for you that i found it easy to believe that you might be stupid :-) 21:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon we do all exams 3 days in a row 21:56 <+Gabee> I like how it is 2018 and quakenet has no ipv6 21:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] sick sick 21:56 <+fstd> anyway 21:56 <+Gabee> fstd: come on 21:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] what subjects? 21:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] ddnet doesnt have ipv6 21:56 <+Gabee> fstd: everyone is stupid on the internet 21:56 <+fstd> if i could even tab complete the discord faggets from here, i'd point out how that cat pic is the worst photoshop ever 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] bcs its no photoshop 21:57 <+Gabee> "discord faggets" 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] i prefer paint c: 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon spanish, catalan, maths, physics, history, english, mmm i think thats all 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] catalan 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk what this is 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] my language 21:57 <+fstd> Gabee: fite me 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] what country? 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] catalonia 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon it's a spanish region language 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon inside spanish, sadly 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] spain 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] like bayern 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye say spain bro 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon no 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] spain sucks 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont write abitur in bayern 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] i wriet it in german xd 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] we found the extremist 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ryozuki soy frances puedo hablar en español 😦 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont like spanish nor its culture 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] they kill bulls for fun 21:58 <+Gabee> fstd: ok ok, I once installed BSD 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalonia 21:59 <+Gabee> fstd: and now I use it at work to filter the network using pfsense :( 21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] they say torturing bulls is a fundamental human right 21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] corrida @Ryozuki ? 21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] and they put you in prison for saying the king is shit 21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea 21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm pretty sure you're accurately representing their opinion 21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 what you mean 21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] jump over the border @Ryozuki france isn't that bad 21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] [12:59 PM] Ryozuki: they say torturing bulls is a fundamental human right 21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont like france 21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] imperialism etc 21:59 <+Gabee> fstd: your turn 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] and they even cut off a hand of a protester 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] imperialism? in france? 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] come to germany, @Ryozuki 😛 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] that defended a land against buildings 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki no they didn't 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] they did 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] You're in a massive protest 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Some people destroy things 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont remember how it is called 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] The police requests people to disperse, to go away 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] They do not 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] They ask again 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] They do not 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] They ask one last time 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] They don't 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] They send a grenade 22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] wow 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] The guy took the grenade in his hand 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] that escalated quickly 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] 😮 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Gabbo they were ocupying a land to protect it against a company wanting to build on it and destroying all nature 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] What do you think would happen? 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] and police came in with grenades 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] no they're not 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] Notre-Dames-Des-Landes was already canceled 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] They were getting rid of the people occupying illegaly other people's property 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] but they cut off someones hand 22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] i saw a raw image 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] Because they gave 3 months for the people to go away 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki they did not 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] The guy had 3 months to leave 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] The project was abandonned 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] The lands were given back to the previous owners 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 idk if i like germany 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] But the owners couldn't use the lands because it was occupied 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] i wouldnt go to america due to their selfishness + kids with weapons and etc 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] So the police said 3 months 22:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki So for that, maybe you get documented more 22:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki Regarding imperialism, we're against it as well 22:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki tbf, germany seems to have quite some german fetish, they want you to learn the language. other countries like sweden or so do not insist on that too much 22:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Gabbo your president is from the right side right? 22:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] you know they want to kill north-catalan language? 22:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] france 22:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] you saw the protests? 22:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's like spain 22:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] you use my language otherwise i hit you 22:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 it's insane how swedish ppl, danish, dutch, speak a very well english 22:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Gabbo the young generation is a little bit better in germany 22:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Catalonia 22:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki France only recognizes French as the language of the republic. But it's going to change 22:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] you have to much faith 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] these politicians always lie 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Gabbo but that's the result of every movie, book, etc. getting translated into german 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] they never do what they say 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] atleast here 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki It's the same thing in Bretagne with Breton, in Toulouse with Occitan, in Corse with corsican etc 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] you have less incentive to learn english 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki well 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] well english doesn't need to be everywhere 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] multilanguage is not bad 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki 10 years ago you would not have been able to learn a local language within France 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki For 5 years now they created this Breton degree 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki It is now taught in school 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki It's progressing, on the right side 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] catalan was forbidden here for decades 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] due to fascism 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] and we kept using it 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yes it's slow, yes it's misunderstood, but no, stop spitting on your country 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] You say english doesn't need to be everywhere yet you speak it 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] on my country? 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont consider spain my country 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] sure 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] i'm catalan 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] from catalonia 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] great 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] so what? 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] Cataluña should get recognized more, yes 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] pls 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] dont kill me 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] write it "catalunya" 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] Cataluña should have a better recognition, yes 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] not cataluña 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's how I learnt it 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] I can also say Catalogne, or the Catalan region 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] When you say Paris with the S at the end, I'm not triggered 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://spanishpolice.github.io/ 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] The entire world say PariSSSSSSS 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] Do I complain about it? 22:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] you are speaking in english 22:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] so the proper way is catalonia 22:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] the proper way according to who 22:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] to english? 22:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] There's nothing that says "it's written like this", it's all a consensus of people talking the same language 22:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] ... 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] About that 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] This was purely illegal 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] The referendum 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] omg 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] you are dumb 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] literally 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] You guys should have been smarter 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] i knew a french imperialist would always say this 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] A french imperialist 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] You complain about politics 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] And you follow them 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm just stating facts here 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] Puigdemont? 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] no you are not 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] The pro catalan 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] flying away his own region he loves so much 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] you speak like a shitty fascist spanish 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] if he didnt fled from there he would have went to jail withtout a court 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] likethe politicians already in prison 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] they havent even had a judgement and are already in prison 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm just gonna say one last thing before we stop because it's totally offtopic (and if you want, we can PM so you can show me more about catalan region) 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] no i wont talk with you since i can see the ignorance already 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] The fact that you tell me I'm dumb, I'm a french imperialist, I'm a shitty fascist spanish 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's not respectful 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah im sry 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] You wouldn't tell me that if I were in front of you 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] Because if I were in front of you 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] You'd be nicer and explain me how it works 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] this pisses me in another level 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] this pisses me ro another level 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] Just like I did when you said "oh the french police cut someone's hand" 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] I tried to explain, so you could understand 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i had proofs of that 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] and i know they did it 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] No one is attacking you, no one is threatening you, I'm not stealing anything from you 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] So relax, breathe, and we can talk & exchange 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] We might learn something from each other 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm totally open to learn anything about Catalan region 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm totally open to learn anything about the Catalan region 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] Cuz I know it's part of France, so is the Basque country as well 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] "part of france"? 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] basque country too? 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] what? 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] Part of france 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] As in the territory 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] where you get that from 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] We have catalan people living in france too 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] but that doesnt mean its part of france 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] Not that much but still 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats the imperialism i mean 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yes sorry I did not mean that 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki pm? 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] k 22:27 <+Gabee> fstd: you gone? 22:28 <+fstd> i haven't been paying attention 22:28 <+Gabee> I feel bad that you think I'm stupid 22:29 <+fstd> Gabee: someone told you i'm a BSD fanboy didn't they? ;) 22:30 <+fstd> if not, i can one up that by running NetBSD practically everywhere from desktop to router to wifi AP to embedded crap :-) 22:30 * fstd looks around with a smug expression 22:31 <+fstd> i still have to sneak in some BSD at work tho :( 22:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Gabbo I'm BR, sponsor of DDNet Brazil. :) 22:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] legal 22:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] vou viajar no brasil em septembre? 22:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] Eu adoro o pais 22:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] Venha. Muita coisa legal por aqui. Clima bom, praia, etc. 22:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] Siiim, e muito brasileiros pra falar com eles! 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] guys pls stop jao, he ban me for fun 😦 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] Guys I'm sorry for the huge offtopic 22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] I hope you'll pardon me 22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] I hope you'll forgive me 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] i love flexbox 22:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki come to holland, we got lots of jobs in IT 22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] 👌 22:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Tell me once you are arrivex 22:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Tell me once you are arrived 22:58 <+fstd> Gabee: you gone? 22:58 <+fstd> tfw he gone 23:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki flexbox the wm? 23:14 <+Gabee> fstd: i are here 23:14 <+fstd> so are i 23:16 <+fstd> you strike me as dutch 23:16 <+fstd> you dutch? 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] @n000b you live in holland? 23:19 <+fstd> please don't conflate holland and der neederlaanden. 23:19 <+fstd> it insults my ancient dutch nobility (which allows me to wear the "van" in "van fisted") 23:26 <+Gabee> hahahaha 23:26 <+Gabee> fstd: Ik ben Frans maar ik leer Nederlands 23:27 <+Gabee> Ik ga de hele tijd naar nederland 23:28 <+Gabee> fstd: wait, do you speak dutch? 23:28 <+Gabee> lmao 23:28 <+Gabee> I'm french, just this 23:28 <+Gabee> french 23:29 <+fstd> i can kinda sorta understand dutch when it's written 23:29 <+fstd> but only because it's like fucked up german 23:29 <+fstd> when spoken i can't understand a thing 23:31 <+Gabee> so you're german? 23:34 <+fstd> i'm so german, i'll wait on a red light at night on an empty intersection 23:35 <+fstd> as a pedestrian! 23:35 <+Gabee> You laugh but ever since I went to germany I do that in france 23:35 <+Gabee> … and I'm the only one 23:36 <+Gabee> But it's so less stressful than looking at cars and try to be smart 23:36 <+fstd> i guess that would depend on the average number of cars in an empty intersection... 23:36 <+Gabee> lmao 23:37 <+Gabee> I really like germany too 23:37 <+Gabee> it's crazy the differences you encounter across the länder 23:38 <+fstd> i too like germany, but i hate the german obsession with rules 23:38 <@heinrich5991> come on 23:39 <@heinrich5991> norms [is that the word] are cool 23:39 <+fstd> literally yesterday someone called the police on me merely because i had accidentally and for the first time ever parked in their parking spot (thinking it was mine when mine was really the one next to it) 23:39 <+fstd> and the one next to it is literally always unoccupied (duh, because it is mine) and that person even knew it so they could easily have parked there 23:39 <+fstd> or put a note on my car or whatever 23:39 <+fstd> but nah, calling the cops it is 23:40 <+fstd> heinrich5991: norms are something entirely different imho 23:42 <+Gabee> calling the cops for that 23:42 <+Gabee> wow 23:42 <+Gabee> always knew the germans were that extreme 23:45 <+fstd> yeh we literally hitler