04:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> hi @Dev i made a save using FRA how to join FRA server
04:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> iirc if it's an unrecognized server it should save on the one you are on
04:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> if not you just lost your save
04:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> just ask devs to change it to another server
04:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> ddnet bad code
04:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> it saved to FRA
04:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> this is a sad day, I wonder where you could find an admin at this hour that wants to change your save
04:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> :thonkery:
04:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> help pls
04:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/439975327528255519/screenshot_2018-04-29_03-23-30.png
04:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> i was right at the finish
04:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> ive lost 3 saves :(
04:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> 
04:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/439975545191661609/screenshot_2018-04-29_03-25-26.png
04:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> question of the day is will I get out of bed for poor @ZombieToad who won't appreciate it anyways and will keep saving to fra and asking for it fixed
04:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> i lost saves to 3 different servers :(
04:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> FRA UAE and EUR
04:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> `DELETE FROM record_save WHERE Code="learathisgay";` sounds tempting
04:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> xdd
04:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> rude
04:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Ask jao he seems to love you and believes in fair treatment of all trolls, he'll hook you up
04:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> 
04:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/439976437651341344/screenshot_2018-04-29_03-29-04.png
04:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> im not troll
04:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> im just bug testing
04:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> enjoy wasting your time, i'll code up a cron to bulk delete saves on unreachable servers
04:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> tomorrow that is
04:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> maybe you should fix the problem where people can save to servers that dont exist
04:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> ya just make a list of valid servers
04:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> you can't create an issue like every other person right?
04:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> /save "any 3 captial letters" "anything else" will save to another server
04:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> what if someones save was /save AAA sucks#
04:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> what if someones save was /save AAA sucks
04:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I would have restored their save
04:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> but it shouldnt happen
04:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> sure, create an issue and it'll be fixed
04:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> no need to come here and taunt me at 4 am
04:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> @ZombieToad make a pull request
04:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> i created my issue here
04:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> This isn't the place for it, put it on github
04:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> i dont know github
04:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> yeah right
04:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Eventhough I don't believe that for one second you can also post on forum, I know you are pretty good at that
04:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> no one is on the forums
04:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> all the devs are in this developer chat so whats wrong with posting issues here
04:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> It get buried, we don't see it
04:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> besides I don't mind you posting issues here, more the disruptive way you demonstrate the issues
04:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <noby> if @ZombieToad could use github then why arent there any spam reqs on ddnet repo
04:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> :troll:
05:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ZombieToad> why would i spam
05:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <noby> fun
13:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <lola> developers hi
16:01 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vpBtY
16:01 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master 5473012 def: /showall: Only print message if state changed
16:01 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master c594a59 def: /timeout without parameter: Try to reclaim using already set timeout code
19:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> Please, this message from /showall is so annoying and useless :feelsbadman:
19:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jesus Christ> just change it to: Showall on/Showall off
19:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jesus Christ> or delete
20:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> I fixed the /showall message already: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/5473012a6d83ba4193194fc6f1d526c31e149f29
20:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1119
20:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> does this not allow negative tune zones anymore?
20:28 <@deen> yes
20:29 <@deen> which is obviously not what we want
20:29 <@deen> and heinrich said so already
20:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> but learath said he will change it
20:29 <@deen> all existing maps should keep working, the intention is just to prevent really high values which cause crashes
20:30 <@deen> but those crashes sound an awful lot like buffer overflow reads, so we should fix them anyhow
20:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <jao> sorry there was no reply after what heinrich said
21:00 <+Learath2> I didn't say I'd fix it, I just set out the framework to limit the values, I'm definitely not the correct person to determine the values
21:00 <+Learath2> maybe imcorneum might be of help
21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> I could check all the maps…
21:32 <+Learath2> yeah but that doesn't give us the reasonable ranges, not just compatibility
21:33 <@deen> don't presume what's reasonable, just no crashes is fine
21:33 <@deen> no reason to forbid maps with crazy physics
21:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> i dont understand how i could be useful in this @Learath2
22:00 <+Learath2> Aren't you the master of tunes?
22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> 😄
22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> i fooled around with them a lot but i wouldnt say i am the master of tunes
22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> but i also dont know what exaclty you need to know.  how hight the value of velocity tunes can go without crashing the client?
22:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Skyrx> where i can find config directory on mac os?
22:23 <@heinrich5991> ~/.teeworlds
22:23 <@heinrich5991> I think (?)
22:24 <+Learath2> I'm corneum, we are trying to figure out reasonable ranges for every tune
22:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> thats going to be hard to judge. out of lazyness i like to use utterly high values to make sure it works and i dont have to rewrite the zone.
22:27 <+Learath2> some insane values crash the server
22:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> on all zones?
22:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> tunes*
22:28 <+Learath2> yeah
22:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> should be possible to find out a pattern. i dont think every tune makes it crash on another value individually
22:30 <+Learath2> velramp ones completely break the server i think
22:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> can you send a map for a example?
22:30 <+Learath2> there are no examples, our resident troll sp noone was doing it with rcon on the test server
22:31 <+Learath2> he set it to a ridiculous value on the map noro.map
22:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> i didnt even know you can do it in f2
22:31 <+Learath2> tune_zone 1 velramp_start 230123781298641982634817254871
22:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> how do i change server tunes in f2
22:33 <+Learath2> idk but thats how you change ones in a tunezone
22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> it would be a lot quicker if i knew how to do it while on the server.  @jao  should know that
22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> @Im 'corneum that's literally the command you put in in rcon
22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> map configs are just exec'd
22:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> okay that works. but it didnt crash anything. not with your value and not when i held down 9 until it stops.
22:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> ```[2018-04-19 10:58:00][server]: ClientID=0 rcon='tune_zone_reset'
22:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> [2018-04-19 10:58:00][tuning]: All Tunezones resetted
22:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> [2018-04-19 10:58:00][server]: ClientID=0 rcon='tune_zone 1 velramp_start 2147483647 '
22:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> [2018-04-19 10:58:00][tuning]: velramp_start in zone 1 changed to 2147483648.00
22:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> [2018-04-19 10:58:00][server]: ClientID=0 rcon='tune_zone 1 velramp_range 2147483647 '
22:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> [2018-04-19 10:58:00][tuning]: velramp_range in zone 1 changed to 2147483648.00
22:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> [2018-04-19 10:58:00][server]: ClientID=0 rcon='tune_zone 1 velramp_curvature 999999'
22:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> [2018-04-19 10:58:00][tuning]: velramp_curvature in zone 1 changed to 999999.00```
22:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> is the exact combination that broke the test servers
22:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> thats really interesting. but out of my league. i thought its with single tunezones.
22:41 <+Learath2> anyways, limiting all the tunes to reasonable values should fix it
22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> maybe it helps you that it doesnt crash if you move carefully.  only when you spam a and d
22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> but it has a hart time not to crash.
22:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> but it has a hard time not to crash.
22:43 <+Learath2> and it doesn't really crash so it's hard to debug :/
22:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> my server restarted itself twice
22:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> oh its back again. so it always restarts or what
22:47 <+Learath2> they're getting stuck for me
22:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Im 'corneum> i can rejoin just normally, change the tunes back and continue
22:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> @Skyrx $HOME/Library/Application Support/Teeworlds
23:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> oh 😦
23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Skyrx> @deen ty
23:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> @heinrich5991 u see deen supports using crazy phyics as map feature
23:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ᶰ°Konͧsti> apply my fix
23:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> @deen ? ^ 🙂