00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Huday well it's possible in some cases, but if there are multiple outs then its random which one is chosen 00:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @lola send me the avatar i will find a solution 01:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] could you plz make it so in the editor, you can click a checkmark that makes it so when a tile is placed, it is automatically mapped? 10:10 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vxPlM 10:10 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master c976e6d 清歌: Provide more controlable command for dummy ... 10:10 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master 06143eb 清歌: Register more controlable command for dummy... 10:10 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master b3a8cef Dennis Felsing: Merge pull request #1086 from QingGo/patch-1... 10:12 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- pushed 27 new commits to master: https://git.io/vxPlN 10:12 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master b911ee9 Jupeyy: calcualte texel offset on CPU not GPU 10:12 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master 91dcab6 Jupeyy: add new shaders for quads,text and sprites 10:12 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master e642b14 Jupeyy: add icon font 10:15 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- closed pull request #897: Implemented a threadsafe queue using C++11 (master...cpp11_threading) https://git.io/vdM2P 10:21 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- closed pull request #1000: Add /modhelp chat command (master...pr_modhelp_chat_cmd) https://git.io/vNgzJ 10:27 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vxP4E 10:27 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master 5a53e4c Dennis Felsing: Fix compilation 10:30 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vxP4M 10:30 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master 43bb77a Dennis Felsing: Version 11.1 10:31 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- closed pull request #880: Jekyll clip (master...JekyllClip) https://git.io/vdOBv 10:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Admin help @GitHub is spamming 10:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] @noby you should use /modhelp 10:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] /modhelp 10:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] HMM 10:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] it was a joke 10:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] /modhelp deen 10:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] deen cleans github 10:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] winter sale 10:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] lmao i didnt read the spam 10:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] i get it now 10:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen do we have a way of getting data out of the server? Like fifo for the other way 😛 10:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] inotail -f $LOG 10:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] guess that might work 10:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/blob/master/servers/scripts/tron.sh 10:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] Can't get much hackier than that 😄 10:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] 😄 10:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] Want to do /modhelp properly 10:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hm, then better find a less hacky way 10:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] > /home/deen/git/osxcross/target/bin/x86_64-apple-darwin15-ld: error while loading shared libraries: libLTO.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 10:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] Looks like I have to rebuild the cross-compiler for mac 😦 11:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] New version \o/ 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] has this version tele weapon? 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Nope 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] ☹ when 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ryozuki still wanted to work on that I think 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1075 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] If this is done, remind me and I'll release a new version immediately 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 does cmake on windows always fetch gtest? 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] Pulsar: jao, say someone in dev that chat message color is fucked with opengl renderer being off 12:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ ^^ 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] I still can't use any ddnet version above 10.9.6 😦 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] I still can't use any ddnet version above 10.8.6 😦 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah without opengl the chat is fucked up 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] no gl no visual 14:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ fixable? 14:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont even understand what happens 14:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] are they under linux? 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] probably windows 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] i am under windows and have no problems 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] different gpu 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] ? 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] unlukily 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] i doubt its anything gpu related 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] more freetype related 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well, we should have same freetype version for all, right? 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i dunno what version i have 14:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] i downloaded newest sdl and freetpye some day 14:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] no problems with the official built from ddnet.tw either 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] lemme check 32 bit 14:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] still ok 14:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe a clean install solves it? 14:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah the problem from pulsar... that is strange 14:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] might be opengl related, would be nice if he gives a bit more information 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] amd driver magic, i swear 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen dafuq is 11.1 :(((( 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] the font is big and symbols are different (bigger, uglier) 14:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] what happened 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] i liked the 11.0.3 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] fokkunaut u always cry about anything 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] i just want to know what happened because the old was better 14:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] where is it uglier? XD 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] icons are bigger, blurrier, its different and idk my feeling is that this is ugly 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] icons ok, but not the text? 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] that should be better or atleast around the same 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] no the text is kind of bigger 14:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] i find the old version nicer 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] i still dont get why the text was touched at all 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] me too 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] it was really good 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] *was* 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] really good? 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] because now the ingame chat is insanly much faster 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] is it the l I problem? 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] the chinese/japanese font finally works 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats great 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] but 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] excuse me but when have you last coded anything more then a calculator to be able to judge the state of the text rendering? 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] xDDDDD 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] who are you talking to @Learath2 ? 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] @fokkonaut obviously 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] aliens told him it was perfect 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] YES 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] sure u can feel it 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] for me all was right 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] for me too 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i didnt test the chines and japaense 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] if it wasnt working that sux 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] he keeps coming here talking shit about everything we do, yet he has no idea about the state of anything 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe tell us in curious too 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 im sorry but thats wrong. i just told that i dont like it because i find it ugly and i liked the old version more and i dont understand why u made it. thats all 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] just switch to japanese and you'll see how great the old code was, we've been talking about it for weeks here 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] well you're right that the text might looks a bit different, but the font sizes are much more accurate now, that should make the text more sharp in many cases 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] the alignment might be broken sometimes, i can't test everything for every resolution, just post screens if something is totally out of place and then i can fix them 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] you like the old version of everything more is my issue here 14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] it literally took seconds to render the scoreboard with japanese 14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] how many japanese players are there 14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah the populist argument again 14:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats not even the point 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] it saves alot of CPU and GPU time 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] even for the EU font 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] it was shitty text rendering, it was a performance hog, and it didn't work for all fonts 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 cant we just have the old one with an option... 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe not even an option in the settings, only via f1 14:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] no we can't maintain two versions of textrendering 15:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] 😦 15:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe @Jupstar ✪ knows a way but I doubt he'll want to pollute the codebase either 15:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] tell us what feels wrong and we might find you a way to make it look better 15:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] can't go off feelings 15:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] the problem is, for all streamed text there is no difference than the text alignment 15:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] so basically i just don't see your problem xD 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] console / server list 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] the text itself should look 90% same 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] except the position in some cases as i said 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] i will show screenshots, sec 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] just need to downlaod the old version again 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao maybe we finally get more players if chinese and japanese start teeworlds because the text finally works for them 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think its impressive what teeworlds became and thats only because of the admins/devs/mods here, so we should just be happy that teeworlds did not died yet because of them and not whine about text fonts :lirikTHINK: :lirikS: :lirikH: 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] but dont come with the icons 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] they are different obviously xD 15:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Kallemy true but teeworlds was very stable and had no bugs what so ever but latley ddnet client updates cause a lot of trouble 15:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] atleast for me 15:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon i doubt there are so few asian players because of the text rendering 15:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] i hope you are false @jao 15:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] still hoping for a new player wave 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] and these troubles can be fixed, but changing something to look slightly different is not a trouble 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] or what troubles do you have? 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] the screens i saw in #general looked bad 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i didnt update for a long time 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] because my troubles with the newer versions are client crashes 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] and i cant risk these 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430714293487403011/Base_Profile_Screenshot_2018.04.03_-_15.04.13.94.png 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430714298080165888/Base_Profile_Screenshot_2018.04.03_-_15.03.37.46.png 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430714298676019200/Base_Profile_Screenshot_2018.04.03_-_15.03.51.30.png 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430714299116159006/Base_Profile_Screenshot_2018.04.03_-_15.03.27.39.png 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] these are the good old 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] dont mind the gay color 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430714402837233665/ddnet.exe_Screenshot_2018.04.03_-_15.04.07.32.png 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430714406163447809/ddnet.exe_Screenshot_2018.04.03_-_15.03.34.10.png 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430714406540804097/ddnet.exe_Screenshot_2018.04.03_-_15.03.29.91.png 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430714408793276416/ddnet.exe_Screenshot_2018.04.03_-_15.03.59.93.png 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] these are the new i dont like 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] (look at icons especially) 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] or the text in the ingame ESC menu 15:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] am i blind or does it looks almost the same? :lirikLUL: 15:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 15:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah I'm pretty sure if I mixed those up he'dnt be able to pick out the bad ones if not for the icons 15:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] i will be^^ 15:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] do some screens on ur own i will tell whats the new and whats the old 15:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] but srsly fokkonaut, the font size is just correct now, that makes the text a bit more fat 15:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] it doesnt look worse or blurry 15:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] but thats the point 15:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] i really liked the old one 15:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] because all other clients have this 15:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] and ddnet had the "skinny" text 15:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] the effect is so small 15:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] no other client I know of has fixed text 15:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe ATH has it fixed 15:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] its just for japanese support, right? 15:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] or "its saving lot of gpu and cpu". ok. then create 2 ddnet versions. one with the NEW variant and one with the old 15:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] people with really bad pc or japaneses can use the new variant 15:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] and all others just can decide what they like more 15:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] because i would definitely choose the old version 15:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] as @Learath2 said they cant do a 2 font client 15:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] 2 clients 15:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] play 5 days, and you forgot the old version 15:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] ._. 15:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's a performance fix, it's here to stay, we can tweak it sure but we'll be rendering text like this from now on 15:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] it doenst improve my fps 15:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] text does look a little more squished if that's what you mean but that's the way it's supposed to be rendered 15:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] It improves a lot of peoples performance and makes text rendering delays nearly non existent 15:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] @fokkonaut spam chat on local server 15:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] and test with old client new 15:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] you should see an insane performance improvement 15:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe we can tweak the font weight 15:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] with opengl3 it even buffers things, so there is basically no performance loose 15:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] opengl3 is cool for the zooz 15:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] but too HD for you i know 15:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] turns your PC into 4k 15:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] xDDDDDDDD 15:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye 15:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i got used to it AND THATS NO ARGUMENT FOR THE NEW TEXT!! 15:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] fokknaut, you can stay with the old version? 15:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe I can write you a client that renders everything in asciiart 15:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] Kero, sure. but there will be new features 15:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] and? 15:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] i want em 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] ? 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] it is a new feature xD 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] copy graphic? 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] or @Jupstar ✪ can just apply a gaussian blur over everything for you 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] @fokkonaut are you really bitching about a font right now? 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] :lirikS: 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah fokkonaut, i bet there are some screen tools for windows 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] that make your full screen blury 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] good idea 15:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] why are we making everything "good and perfect" if it was better looking the old way 15:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] render everything at half resolution, upscale it back to original, bicubic interpolation is really good at making things inaccurate 15:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] strive for perfection 15:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] :lirikSMART: 15:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] it wasn't looking better the old way, you were just used to the old way 15:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats why it looked better 15:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] well i like the new text rendering more, i see a huge difference for big font sizes with 2k screen 15:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] like the "Connection Problems" looks like 8k now xD 15:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] 4D 8k 15:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] so we should render text in a way that's less performant so you don't have to get used to something new that you'll forget about after a couple hours of gameplay? 15:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] exactly 15:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] the "performance improvement" isnt noticeable 15:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] it is for people using CJK 15:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] if someone will every update the GUI some day, he most likely will like to have every text be rendered from a specific coordinate 15:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] and that is what the new renderer does "a bit" already 15:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] and people with worse computers, and no we don't have the time to maintain 50 different versions of the client because someone doesn't like a feature we add 15:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's deterministic and doesn't rely on the bitmap metrics 15:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] which font is the one we have in the client? 15:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] DejaVuSansCJKName? 15:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 15:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] dont tell me your os renderes it cleaner 15:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] MS uses ClearType 15:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] ofc that looks even better 15:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] theoretically we can even aply such things in the shader 15:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] but not for the old renderer 15:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] and no we don't have the engineering team to r&d a complete text renderer that competes with ClearType 😛 15:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] and no we don't have the engineering team to r&d a complete text renderer that competes with ClearType 😛 15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] freetype even has cleartype support, but i bet you don't use a LED screen, but some old 1920 black and white monitors 15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] and then it wont help xD 15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] no but srsly fokkonaut, if you see text is rendered too high or too deep, yes that needs to be fixed, the current GUI was sometimes just fixed to work 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] not to be mathematically precise or something 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] but why are the symbols differewnt 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] but why are the symbols different 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] because i wanted to try something new 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] the search in adress bar 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] looks much better imo 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] i still dont know what exclude is for 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] but nvm 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] basically search everything except that 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] ahh 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok 15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] like if you dont want ddnet servers type in DDNet 15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] that is cool 15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] what if i use another font file? 15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] will it then be normal 15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] nope, the icon font overwrites letters basically, so a "A" gets some icon instead XD 15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] but for the default font 15:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] if i change that 15:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] the normal font is still the same 15:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] if i change that 15:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] i already tried out another font 15:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] it worked, but ofc its still not the same as before. 15:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] do i really need to get used to this now 15:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] stay with an older client 15:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🤷 15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes thats what happens but updates can be usefull 15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] time isnt centered 15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430721076838793217/ddnet.exe_Screenshot_2018.04.03_-_15.30.47.77_2.png 15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] since vanilla and older clients wont work with new computers and high dpi screens 15:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] then just get used to the new style xd 15:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] and the crashbugs? 15:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] :what: 15:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] it sucks if you loose hours of mapping 15:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] new clients come with crashbugs for me 15:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] no one said something about bugs xd 15:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] i did 15:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] im talking about broken updates in general 15:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon CTRL+S every minute like me 15:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] imo we should test the stuff on every operating system and setup or add a testy realse and a stable one 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] even wores @fokkonaut 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] i once lost a whole map 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah fokkonaut just collect what you find, then i can fix such things in one go 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] We do our best to weed out any bugs but we cant try it on everything 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] 1 year of work 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] because it crashed during saving 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon CTRL+S every minute like me 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] sory 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] there was a beta thing for the opengl stuff and no one tested it 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] i did the same 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] so yeah lol 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] i tested it @jao 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] we don't even have everything, we have to release at some point 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao you are not everyone 15:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 it is defnelty know that there is some buggy stuff going one since some versions we should exclude it to a testy build 15:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] well it came with a lot bugs despite the testing phase 15:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon ddnet 10 was a horrible start but now i think its good. but 11 introduces new bugs^^ 15:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't know of any bugs that cause a crash except for one mac bug that crashes on startup and one that crashes on shutdown on linux 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] well system isnt threadsafe 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] mac isnt working at all 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] since ever 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] i have only 1 compuzter that can run teeworlds 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] and it uses windows 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] so every client is a potential risk 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] XDDDDD 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] and there i have crashbugs 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] teeworlds doesnt work on my 2 win laptop or my ubuntu laptor nor on y 2 macbooks 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] We didn't have a mac until a couple weeks ago 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm sorry I couldn't test it on a setup I don't have with a bug report that consists of "It crashes" 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6382 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ u say japanese etc work? 15:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] モカツ why they are not working 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <モカツ〜〜〜> What are not? 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] the symbols arent working 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] ingame 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] swtich language to japanese 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] then it should 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <モカツ〜〜〜> 'Cause someone can't code good 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] we don't have cjk loaded when a non cjk language is used? 15:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] that should probably be fixed if that's the case 15:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] well that is the sense of the other font right? 15:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] because not all kanji/japanese letters are supported 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] thanks i just tested font and got banned from infclass 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430723153161879553/ddnet.exe_Screenshot_2018.04.03_-_15.39.47.05.png 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] how can i even debug on windows? 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] cant 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] TOTALLY MY FAULT XD 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah totally our fault that infclass was stupid enough to ban clients based on heuristics 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] as i said switch to japanese 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] they sohuld work there 15:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] heuristics? whats that 15:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] there is no way to detect cheat clients perfectly, so they are using some signs, e.g. sending an impossible character or a non used flag 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] so swithc to japanese now fokkonaut then it even works in f1 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] there was an modertaor online 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] it wasnt a detection 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] try it before u say it doesnt work all the time now 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] bcs the moderator cant see the ltters either 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] then the moderator is also stupid... 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] because these letters arent in the font file 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ i see its working but if only japaneses can see its stupid, isnt it? 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] depends 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] why do you need to write japanese in europe 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] why not 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can look for fonts that support both character sets 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] but often they render some letters different and thats something u totally dislike 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ couldn't we have both fonts loaded at the same time? Shouldn't matter that much 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, but do you want to determine what font should be used at what point? 15:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] i have no problems with new version (tested on linux for now only) ♥ 15:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] If the letter isn't in one font use the other? 15:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] that would require splitting text 15:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] like latin letters than some chinese, latin again 15:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh yeah that would be meh 15:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] is there no dejavu sens with better asian letter support 15:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe we could use the merged font 15:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah that would be the best 15:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] but the debian guy actually wanted us to use system fonts 15:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] absolutly no reason 15:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] guess it's okay this way 15:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] since when does a game rely on a system font especially if its cross plattform 15:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] y, I don't understand what he was thinking either 15:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] When not using OpenGL 3.3 Standard chat messages become mono-font since updating. 15:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430726199333879819/unknown.png 15:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] *mono color 15:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] mhh, you the second one having trouble with colors 15:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 you know what is the gameuuid? 15:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] i'm making the changelog 15:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki in the db? 15:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/bc11fc2a3540146568c8cff622097733e871a23e 15:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] i indeed changed the vertex upload for the old render, but i never thought that there are GPU drivers that are so broken 15:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] because opengl1.x is like 2000 years old 15:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki it associates ranks to teehistorian files 15:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] i guess its not relevant? 15:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] for changelog 15:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] @CptDalv does it also break every color else 15:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] or just the chat 15:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ you think the color issue is because of drivers? 15:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] Just took a look at the chat for now 15:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] this one guy sounded like his color is totally broken 15:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/430726818555756564/screenshot_2018-04-03_15-53-20.png 15:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki guess not, you could write "Better integration of teehistorian files" if you have to write sth for it 15:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok, thanks 15:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] @CptDalv you mean that its grey instead of white? 15:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yep 15:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] so it's not your settings? 15:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Settings are default 15:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Only the chat so far 15:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] But name mentionings are gray too 15:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] i see 15:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah probably because i update all color 15:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] aslong its only this its not hard to fix 15:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] how did that even? 15:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @jao "Pulsar: jao, say someone in dev that chat message color is fucked with opengl renderer being off" 15:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] does he mean this issue, can you ask him? 15:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] press ctrl+z then its fixed 15:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 i buffer everything even for the old render, so no CPU time is wastet tehre too and i dont need to manage so much code 15:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Jupstar ✪ yeah but I don't see how the color gets lost along the way 15:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] well maybe i forgot to change it completly 15:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] the new renderer takes the color as parameter 15:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] the old just sets "global" color 15:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] see that are bugs i just oversee, and nobody tested it before it was merged 16:00 <+bridge> [ddnet]