00:25 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> ger lagging
00:25 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> massive ddos?
00:25 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> like really
00:25 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> ger dying
00:25 <+Slishtee> Its valis garbage ass
00:25 <+Slishtee> hes mad annoying..
00:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> t
00:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> who changed color
00:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> now its rly ugly
00:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> also admin colors is rly ugly
00:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> xD
00:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Wtf
00:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> My color is ugly top
00:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Too
00:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> who made this, likes ugly colors
00:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> that purple was beutiful
00:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Valis ddosing?
00:28 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Might be my fault too xD
03:44 <@heinrich5991> Ryozuki: on undefined behavior: https://kristerw.blogspot.de/2017/09/why-undefined-behavior-may-call-never.html
09:07 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vdTN5
09:07 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master 5b05e55 Dennis Felsing: Fix grammar (thanks noby)
11:05 <+Ryozuki> i see
11:08 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dTpLEUnLmk
11:09 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> listen while coding hard stuff
12:34 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> Whats the reason for tuning values being 100 times bigger than i would expect them to be (100* the default values, and the values listed in the documentation) https://imgur.com/nkfU2jj
12:35 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> also why are tunings updated in spec  and pause
12:54 <@deen> floats being stored as an int?
12:54 <@deen> with a few digits
12:54 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> i would have thought, but every time they are used they are added as they are
12:56 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> https://imgur.com/WcoDZUl
13:07 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> it has an automatic conversion from CTuningVariable to float
13:07 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> look for operator float() in the CTuneVariable class
13:09 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> K got it
13:09 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> what about spec&pause
13:11 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> what about spec and pause?
13:13 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> what about spec and pause? What are you talking about  😮
13:13 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> tunings are sent when you are in spec/pause and you mouse over a new tune zone
13:14 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> - why
13:14 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> where?
13:14 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> nMessage in gameclient.cpp receieves a NETMSGTYPE_SV_TUNEPARAMS
13:15 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> On
13:15 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> where is it sent?
13:16 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> uhhhhhhhhhhhh
13:19 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> CGameContext::SendTuningParams
13:21 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> you want stack trace?
14:20 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> ```
14:20 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> /*
14:20 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki>     Function: str_comp
14:20 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki>         Compares to strings case sensitive.```
14:20 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> shouldnt it be 'two' ?
14:20 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> yes
14:20 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> u can do a quick edit? line 922 in system.h
14:21 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> `````
14:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> ```
14:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> /*
14:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki>     Function: str_comp_num
14:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki>         Compares up to num characters of two strings case sensitive.```
14:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> maybe who wrote this was missing the w key?
14:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> ill make a commit with fixing this..
14:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> ill make a commit  fixing this..
14:23 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> this one is correct, no?
14:23 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> oh
14:23 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> yeah i read it wrong
14:25 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> ^
14:25 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] Ryozuki opened pull request #878: Fix little typo (master...patch-3) https://git.io/vdkWU
14:25 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] heinrich5991 closed pull request #878: Fix little typo (master...patch-3) https://git.io/vdkWU
14:29 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> thanks for the easy PR ❤
14:29 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> check https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/874 also
14:30 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> generally you want to capitalize the first letter of the commit message btw 😃
14:30 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> oh :o
14:30 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> but nvm for those
14:45 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> @Dr. Jekyll they are also send in spec/pause as otherwise prediction breaks
15:01 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> what you think about server side localisation? specially meant for server messages like "finished race",  "you know have endless hook.." with a client option to select the server messages language
15:01 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> what you think about server side localisation? specially meant for server messages like "finished race",  "you now have endless hook.." with a client option to select the server messages language
15:01 <+ddnet-discord> <deen> no thanks
15:01 <+ddnet-discord> <deen> learn english
15:01 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> xD
15:01 <+ddnet-discord> <deen> (same for client imo)
15:02 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> ok nvm then
15:03 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> @HMH  prediction of what, if you are in spec/pause you cant do anything
15:03 <+ddnet-discord> <deen> well, my opinion is not so important
15:03 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> imo it is
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> teeworlds looks like game for childrens
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> @Dr. Jekyll projectiles for example
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> so imo, it could be good
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> x
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> xd
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> a lot young people
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> and teeworlds helps them learn english also
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> xD
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> like every game
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> 😄
15:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> and yes! i am the example
15:05 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> i couldn't say any word 3 years ago
15:05 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> :<
15:05 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> but then i joined #ddnet, AND FUCK YEa. i started to type
15:05 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> and type, and type
15:05 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> now i am a bit better, but still
15:05 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> why is where im pointing my spec camera going to affect the behaviour of proectiles?
15:06 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> prediction of what you see
15:06 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> it really makes things smooth
15:07 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> e.g a projectile is easy to predict
15:07 <+ddnet-discord> <jao> Good morning (sorry for my bad english!)
15:07 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> but the tuning the client receives is for the quare you are looking at, not the squares that other tees are moving in
15:08 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> so?
15:09 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> so how is getting tuning tuning for specced zone helping prediction
15:09 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> imagine a other tee is in a tune zone, and has less gravity, you need to know there is tune zone there to predict that tee movement
15:09 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> but client doesnt recive new tuning for other tees
15:10 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> other tee moves into a low grave zone i dont recieve new tune
15:10 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> I could imagine it helps for projectiles since they're entirely predicted
15:10 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> if you look at some point of the map and the tune zones are big, there's a chance that the tune zone you get corresponds to the projectile
15:11 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> but that sounds like an area that needs improvement
15:11 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> yes, without correct tuning the trajectory is completely off
15:11 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> hmmmm so you oculd actually be seeing incorrect prediciotn?
15:11 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> hmmm
15:11 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> yes
15:11 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> AFAICT
15:12 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> this is the best you can get for vanilla client as it can handle only one set of tunings at once but ddnet clould handle and predict all of them
15:13 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> i would like to make a poll and see how much people use vanilla to play ddnet
15:13 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> vanilla always causing trouble
15:13 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> I used it for quite some time 😃
15:23 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> On ger:
15:23 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> ```
15:23 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> > grep "player has entered the game." *.log* | wc -l
15:23 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 21396
15:23 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> > grep "using Custom Client" *.log* | wc -l
15:23 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 17869
15:23 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> ```
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> ```
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> $ python
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> Python 3.6.2 (default, Jul 20 2017, 03:52:27) 
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> [GCC 7.1.1 20170630] on linux
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> >>> 17869/21396
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> 0.8351561039446626
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> ```
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> 16% use non-ddnet clients
15:25 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> nice
15:25 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> sweet, python is 3.6.2 😄
15:25 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> @heinrich5991 expect 10% to be botters :tw_twinbop:
15:25 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> they also use ddnet version things IIRC
15:29 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> huh, never noticed it before https://imgur.com/F1VRn3a
15:30 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> that's exactly what I was talking about ^^
15:32 <+ddnet-discord> <deen> @heinrich5991 there are many non-ddnet clients that are based on ddnet or parts of ddnet
15:32 <@heinrich5991> but they would send ddnet versions, wouldn't they?
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> ```
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> Version | Occurences
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10086 | 9939
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10071 | 1861
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10067 | 886
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 708 | 847
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10085 | 479
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10043 | 475
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10083 | 387
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 903 | 368
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10063 | 302
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10042 | 232
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 1003 | 227
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10050 | 221
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10062 | 219
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10060 | 173
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10035 | 164
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 900 | 146
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10084 | 110
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10061 | 99
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10070 | 97
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10064 | 94
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10082 | 92
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 1002 | 71
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 705 | 67
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10034 | 55
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10066 | 47
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10041 | 44
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 1 | 42
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 10065 | 35
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <HMH> 902 | 33 <message clipped>
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <CookieMichal> 2 🤔
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> 999999999 🤔
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> 😛
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <CookieMichal> 1337*666* 👀
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> no 997
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> :/
15:49 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> OR EVEN 112
15:49 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> 997?
15:49 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> :"/
15:49 <+ddnet-discord> <CookieMichal> 997 is police number in 🇵🇱
15:50 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> 😄
15:50 <+ddnet-discord> <jao> 1337666 is SP Someone
15:55 <@deen> 1 is old DDRace client
15:55 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> 112 is the emergency number in all of the EU
15:55 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> yes
15:55 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> here in catalonia too
15:55 <@deen> people don't like updating...
15:55 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> and tw vanilla has something?
15:55 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> the old one didn't have autoupdate no??
15:55 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> @Ryozuki "in all of the EU" ^^
15:56 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> ah
15:56 <@deen> these ones are not that old, they have autoupdate. people just don't care to update
15:56 <@deen> maybe we should have kept the annoying message in the middle of the screen
15:57 <@heinrich5991> do we force a restart on update?
15:57 <+ddnet-discord> <jao> I believe sushi's client is 1 too
15:57 <@heinrich5991> is the update UI modal?
15:57 <@heinrich5991> mh... maybe I should eat our own dogfood to make the update process easier ^^
16:01 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=48&p=57785&sid=25944b88f8a2157be2f56769fce4e272#p57785
16:01 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> best post
16:01 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> no irony
16:02 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> hahahah
16:02 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> remove topic?
16:02 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> Love deen's response
16:02 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> 😄
16:02 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> We faked people on polish fanpage on facebook, 2 years ago
16:02 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> as well 😄
16:03 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> moved it to offtopic
16:03 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> can you remove it? why do you help people find bots?
16:03 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> can you remove it?
16:03 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> I think leaving it there helps people find bots
16:03 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> no one gave a bot link
16:03 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> i dont see a prob (?)
16:03 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> they gave a skype ID to contact with bots
16:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> oh
16:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> let's send him bot with data encryption wirus or smth
16:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> :v
16:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> u bad person
16:04 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> no
16:04 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> just joking
16:05 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> (deleted the post)
16:05 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> thanks
16:05 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> you could also tell the user that bots aren't supported in this forum ^^
16:05 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> via pm or so
16:05 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> (don't remember the name)
16:05 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> Private MEssage?
16:07 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> private message in the forums
17:10 <+ddnet-discord> <noby> wait can someone help me identify some of those version numbers that @HMH posted?
17:11 <+ddnet-discord> <noby> 1337666 is sp | someone's custom client
17:11 <+ddnet-discord> <noby> 9999999999999 is headshot
17:11 <+ddnet-discord> <noby> 605, 602 are zclient (cheat)
17:11 <+ddnet-discord> <noby> 308 is hclient
17:11 <+ddnet-discord> <noby> 708 is fucking baumalein >_>
17:12 <+ddnet-discord> <noby> 502 is fclient
17:12 <+ddnet-discord> <noby> if anyone knows what the other remaining "short" version numbers are it would be helpful
17:13 <+ddnet-discord> <noby> also 0 should show on this list, some clients actively send version number 0
19:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> i get a error compiling on windows with mingw
19:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> src\engine\client\backend_sdl.cpp: In member function 'virtual int CGraphicsBackend_SDL_OpenGL::Init(const char*, int*, int*, int*, int, int, int*, int*)':
19:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> C:\Users\Edgar\Desktop\ddnet\src\engine\client\backend_sdl.cpp:561:41: error: 'putenv' was not declared in this scope
19:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki>      putenv("SDL_VIDEO_WINDOW_POS=center"); // ignore_convention
19:29 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> On Windows, it's named _putenv
19:29 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> i think
19:30 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> from SO ```On Windows, it's named _putenv. The leading underscore correctly signals that it's not a standard C function but an implementation extension. You might be able to get away with /Dputenv=_putenv```
19:31 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> can you pute the error into `` (instead of the quote :P)
19:31 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> can you put the error into `` (instead of the quote :P)
19:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> ```src\engine\client\backend_sdl.cpp: In member function 'virtual int CGraphicsBackend_SDL_OpenGL::Init(const char*, int*, int*, int*, int, int, int*, int*)':
19:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> C:\Users\Edgar\Desktop\ddnet\src\engine\client\backend_sdl.cpp:561:41: error: 'putenv' was not declared in this scope
19:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki>      putenv("SDL_VIDEO_WINDOW_POS=center"); // ignore_convention```
19:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> uh, why it resends the message to irc
19:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> this is a bot bug
19:32 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/issues
19:32 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> if you have a github account, you could report a bug
19:33 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> no i dont have one :)
19:33 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> let me see if happens again
19:33 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> let me see if happens again -edit-
19:33 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> it happened for my edit as well
19:34 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> what bot version?
19:34 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> the interesting question is: what should happen instead?
19:34 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> nothing
19:34 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> so I can say A on Discord an B on IRC?
19:34 <+ddnet-discord> <Ryozuki> u cant edit on irc
19:34 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> maybe an "edit to message from 12:34"
19:34 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> with git diff
19:34 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> :>
19:35 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> ```
19:35 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> 1. - a
19:35 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> 1. + b
19:35 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> ```
19:35 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> or smth
19:35 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> diff isn't optimized for single lines I think
19:36 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> Aren't synchronised envelopes supposed to reset to time 0 when you cross the start line? is there more steps to using them than just ticking the box?
19:36 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> they're nto synchronized to race time anymore, but to map time
19:37 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> Alright
19:38 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> my real problem is why non-syncronised envs dont reset to 0 when you disconnect/reconnect or when you rcon reload
19:39 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> my guess is its because s_Time is static in CMapLayers::EnvelopeEval
19:39 <+ddnet-discord> <Dr. Jekyll> but i dont get the logic why its static
19:40 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> sounds like a good idea to fix
19:41 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> you can report and issue or make a PR if you want
20:38 <+ddnet-discord> <heinrich5991> @Ryozuki matterbridge version v1.2.0-12-gb49fb2b