05:34 <+Slishtee> Henning
15:06 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> change the design of the website
15:07 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> You can try, by yourself
15:07 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> then show us
15:07 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> k ima just change bg
15:07 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> kobra 2 background is fucking ugly
15:08 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> not on the map
15:08 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> but on the website i made
15:21 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> ok fuck this shit
15:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> ?
15:23 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> wait
15:23 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> im a shitty photoshopper
15:23 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> it will take a while
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> i don't even know what are you doing
15:24 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> making a desgin
15:25 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> And you will code it as well?
15:32 <+ddnet-discord> <deen> It's a design, don't add code
15:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> so, you want to have only graphics ?
15:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> you iwll code it with html and css by yourself ?
15:34 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> well
15:34 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> i can make designs with code
15:35 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> i can only* xD
15:36 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> you mean, with markup and stylesheet?
15:37 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> you are not working with graphic programs
15:37 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> y7
15:37 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> y
15:38 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> css
15:38 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> markup => html stylesheet => css
15:39 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> y
15:39 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> xD
15:39 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> im a beginner alright i started learning that and js like 3 weeks ago
15:40 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> keep going
15:40 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> dude
15:40 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> look at the files i sent u
15:40 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> click on index.html
15:41 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> and there u got everything
15:41 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> I know
15:41 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> and ignore the background its cancer
15:41 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> But still, keep going
15:41 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> with what xD
15:41 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> with working on your skills
15:41 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> german?
15:42 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> it looks almost the same
15:42 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> no
15:42 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> fuck
15:42 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> i gotta look up a word
15:42 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> i feel like this is a wrong word
15:42 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> but u know what and intership is Xd
15:43 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> I know, so im telling you
15:43 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> to KEEP GOING. Do things
15:43 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> websites
15:43 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> look how other websites looks
15:43 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> y
15:43 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> try to copy design
15:43 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> i copied a design xD
15:43 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> from idk. discord, facebook, new york news
15:43 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> so
15:43 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> but don't do it like "ctrl+c , ctrl + v"
15:44 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> well
15:44 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> just think, how you can solve the problem and do it.
15:44 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> For you, then try to make your own designs
15:44 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> you can't be pro in one month
15:44 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> xD
15:44 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> u still didnt tell me the problem yet xD
15:44 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> what problem
15:44 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> For me, the website which you sent to me is bad
15:44 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> k
15:45 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> xD
15:45 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> bad colors, generally looks like websites from 2005
15:45 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> i said ignore the colors though
15:45 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> take inspirations
15:45 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> with another background
15:45 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> So, what i have to say about your website
15:45 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> it looks way different
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> if, the colors are 50% of website
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> what u mean
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> i mean, you need to think about colors. They have to fit together
15:46 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> y
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> don't use too many shades
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> i said it myself though
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> Layout is the same, as it is on ddnet right now
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> Two columns, left has menu and logo
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> xD
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> right movie and newses
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> nothing changed
15:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> ok so
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> ima look at websites
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> pinterest.com
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> you can look for an inspiration there
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> and i will make a new design
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> in searchbox "website design"
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> "website design clean"
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> etc
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> search for inspirations
15:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> k
15:49 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> and you should read, about good practices
15:49 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD4JnVRe4-A&t=1231s
15:50 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> you can watch videos like this, to learn something about design, general principles
15:51 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> anyway, don';t bother yourself with BIG THINGS, step by step.
16:12 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> ok wait but one more thing
16:12 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> because i cant photoshop very good
16:13 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> can i code the design xD
16:14 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> practice
16:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> bruh
16:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> im a developer not actually the desinger
16:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> at the place i work
16:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> i can use photoshop
16:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> its just not as fun
16:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> then, go to backend
16:22 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> not front
16:24 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> what u mean
16:25 <@heinrich5991> not surei f you need image manipo
16:25 <@heinrich5991> pulation software for designing websites
16:25 <@heinrich5991> pen and paper might work as well
16:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> i think, mphotoshop is good for web design
16:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> but you can try Adobe XD
16:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> free software from Adobe
16:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> to prototype websites
16:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> (visually)
16:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> there are others choices as well, depends on your needs
16:28 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> no i wanna know what u mean with backend and front
16:28 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/i-dont-speak-your-language-frontend-vs-backend
16:38 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> hm
16:39 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> ima try again in frontend lol
16:39 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> and thx for feedback man
16:39 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> and if it sucks next time
16:39 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> the next after that will be better
16:39 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> till i make a desing that ull like
16:40 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> cuz u givin me good feedback
17:16 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> Guys, what do you think about css-grid novadays? Should we start to use it, or we should to wait a bit more?
17:16 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> http://caniuse.com/#feat=css-grid
17:16 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> Do you like it?
19:02 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Wait
19:06 <@Learath2> Savander stop pushing out adobepropagande :P
19:07 <@Learath2> gimp and inkscape work fine for me
19:11 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Nvm
19:11 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> I just watched a Video on that
19:11 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> And
19:13 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> What king of propagande
19:13 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> ? 😦
19:14 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> NOBODY pays me 😦
19:14 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> im just using that stuff
19:21 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> For what u wanna use the grids
19:26 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> for everything
19:27 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> it changes everything, how layout could be built
19:28 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Ik what it does now
19:29 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> But i dont see the Point on ddnet website
19:29 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Theres not a lot to use a grid for
19:29 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> ?
19:30 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> It wasn't related to ddnet
19:30 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Well
19:30 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> but in general
19:30 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Thats what i was assuming
19:30 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Cuz this is ddnet discord
19:30 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> ok
19:30 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> bye master
19:30 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> 😃
19:31 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> In general i would defently go for it
19:54 <@heinrich5991> Savander: 2/3 of all browsers (by usage share) support it
19:54 <@heinrich5991> that doesn't sound too good...
19:56 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> yup, because its new
19:56 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> that's why im askin, if you would use new features, and get rid of support for older browser
19:57 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> or you will keep it almost when it will be supported by 95+ %
19:57 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Y
20:00 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> If you are interested in, you can check what it gives to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kVeCqQCxlk
20:16 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> Already watched a vid on it
20:27 <@heinrich5991> Method of using a grid concept to lay out content, providing a mechanism for authors to divide available space for layout into columns and rows using a set of predictable sizing behaviors
20:27 <@heinrich5991> (quote)
20:27 <@heinrich5991> that sounds like a table to me ^^
20:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> Yup, and its pretty cool
20:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> at this moment, we need to make divs in divs
20:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> to make rows
20:32 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> to make columns
21:15 <+ddnet-discord> <Ezy> We kinda already made divs in divs though
21:15 <@Learath2> spec somewhere that doesn't see a group of tees
21:15 <@Learath2> open chat
21:16 <@Learath2> move to the position that has the group of tees
21:16 <@Learath2> tees are not visible
21:17 <@Learath2> being able to move mouse in spec while chatting seems to be causing it
21:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> Weird behaviour.
21:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> At this moment i have 2 monitors
21:47 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> after minimize ddnet, my cursor is automatlically pushed to the second one, but the game is on the first one.
21:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> No matter if I move cursors inside game
21:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> it's correct behaviour ?
21:48 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> It's automatically moved to the left top corner, on the second monitor
21:49 <+ddnet-discord> <Savander> Lul
21:54 <@heinrich5991> Learath2: yes, mouse position isn't sent during chat or ignored by server
21:54 <@heinrich5991> one of these