16:27 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] heinrich5991 opened pull request #789: Use `str_find` from `src/base/system.h` and check for `C:` on Windows (master...pr_dont_escape) https://git.io/vHjTj 18:30 <@Nimda> Shortgun by Cor just released on Solo at 2017-06-18 18:28 20:55 <@heinrich5991> Learath2: shouldn't there be a discord bot running? 20:56 < Learath2> the only bot i found seems a little prone to crashing when it feels like it 20:56 < Learath2> i might have to write one meself 22:39 < ddnet-discord> why on this server kill protection won't work? Optik accidentally killed himself near finish and after finish we tried to test kill protection and we killed yourself with bind 22:39 < ddnet-discord> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/326098581721448448/unknown.png 22:40 < ddnet-discord> Seems like you were fast, killprotection works after 20 minutes 22:40 < ddnet-discord> nope, there were more then 100 mins 22:40 < ddnet-discord> :wtf: 22:40 < ddnet-discord> maybe he bound kill; say /kill 22:40 < ddnet-discord> ? 22:41 < ddnet-discord> killprotection should be like 5 minutes 22:41 < ddnet-discord> it's configurable 22:41 < ddnet-discord> ; doesnt work without extra command 22:41 < ddnet-discord> where 22:41 < ddnet-discord> i meant. Configurable via server_config 22:41 < ddnet-discord> but okay, maybe should be configurable for each player 22:41 < ddnet-discord> or smth 22:42 < ddnet-discord> it really should 22:42 < ddnet-discord> idk what he bind but it worked for me then there is always kill protextion with my bind after 20 mins 22:42 < ddnet-discord> especially in locked teams 22:42 < ddnet-discord> I love slipping off to my kill key 22:43 < ddnet-discord> you tested it now? 22:43 < ddnet-discord> he told that he tried to chat smth, but we didn't see chat cloud above him, so I think he accidentally push kill bind button 22:44 < ddnet-discord> idk, some people boud say kill and kill 22:44 < ddnet-discord> idk why, but 22:45 < ddnet-discord> its not the bind, I told you I tested it with my bind, and my bind never let me kill myself after 20 mins 22:45 < ddnet-discord> but you understand what im saying? 22:45 < ddnet-discord> if you say /kill; on chat 22:45 < ddnet-discord> it doesn't amtter if its 20 minutes 22:45 < ddnet-discord> yes he gets you 22:45 < ddnet-discord> or 5 minutes 22:45 < ddnet-discord> you wil die anyway 22:46 < ddnet-discord> he didn't type /kill and problem is not with what he did, my bind killed me then it shouldn't 22:46 < ddnet-discord> so you tested it yea? 22:46 < ddnet-discord> which port 22:46 < ddnet-discord> yeah 22:46 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> :ZULUL: 22:46 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> :happy: 22:47 < ddnet-discord> nvm i got 22:47 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> All like? 22:47 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> :prxGasm: :NotLikeNico: :nicoWink: :NicoSmug: :NicoEhehe: :TooLewd: :tomaNico: :nicoBomb: :nepSmug: :hubLewd: 22:47 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> :p 22:48 < ddnet-discord> @1110010hacker1101011 its developer chanell, pls don't go offtopic 22:48 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> ok 22:49 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> :music: 22:49 < ddnet-discord> question, did you finish? 22:49 < ddnet-discord> + 22:50 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> - 22:50 < ddnet-discord> but on other servers even after finish it won't let me kill with bind 22:50 < ddnet-discord> nope 22:50 < ddnet-discord> after finish, your time is set to server-time 22:50 < ddnet-discord> then you can kill yourself 22:51 < ddnet-discord> it only works, when you are while racing 22:51 < ddnet-discord> after finish nope 22:51 < ddnet-discord> True 22:51 < ddnet-discord> because then it doesn't matter if you will die or no. :PP you finished anyway so 22:52 < ddnet-discord> is it smth new? coz if I remember correctly I couldn't kill myself with bind after finish 22:52 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> :Emoticon_Smile_Face: 22:52 < ddnet-discord> nope 22:52 < ddnet-discord> it works like that since 22:52 < ddnet-discord> i wrote it 22:52 < ddnet-discord> :p 22:52 < ddnet-discord> hm 22:53 < ddnet-discord> you need to "bind k kill" not "bind k say /kill" 22:53 < ddnet-discord> ok, I'm testing it right now with u 😄 15 mins to go 22:53 < ddnet-discord> saying /kill always kills you 22:53 < ddnet-discord> I have bind f9 "kill" 22:53 < ddnet-discord> which actually is a weird way of doing this, maybe we should ask for confirmation in any case after 20 mins 22:54 < ddnet-discord> could also maybe get x% of the average finish time 22:54 < ddnet-discord> for what? /kill is extra command anyway 22:54 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> Savander |KoG| this /kill 22:55 < ddnet-discord> I've seen a lot of people suggest "bind k say /kill" 22:55 < ddnet-discord> which is stupid 22:55 < ddnet-discord> it is, right 22:55 < ddnet-discord> but it will work only on ddnet 22:55 < ddnet-discord> so, if poeple are stupid 22:55 < ddnet-discord> it isn't right 22:55 < ddnet-discord> it bypasses kill protection 22:55 < ddnet-discord> they can do 22:56 < ddnet-discord> /kil /confirm in bind. but 22:56 < ddnet-discord> maybe we can add something like 22:56 < ddnet-discord> "Confirm kill command by saying /kill again" 22:56 < ddnet-discord> we should just require two kill inputs of any kind 22:57 < ddnet-discord> so if a flag is set kill the guy on any kill input if not set the flag 22:58 < ddnet-discord> or maybe, we should just switch the name of command 22:58 < ddnet-discord> to something more. . . 22:58 < ddnet-discord> ehm, 22:59 < ddnet-discord> switch the name of which one? 22:59 < ddnet-discord> ./kill 22:59 < ddnet-discord> to maybe 22:59 < ddnet-discord> ./confirm_kill 22:59 < ddnet-discord> Maybe poeple just think that 22:59 < ddnet-discord> /kill is the only way to suicide/restart game 22:59 < ddnet-discord> so they binding it 22:59 < ddnet-discord> well if it's going to be ./confirm_kill it shouldn't kill you at all 22:59 < ddnet-discord> well it effectively is the only way to kill oneself after 20 mins 23:00 < ddnet-discord> i propose we make /kill and kill analogous and make them check a common flag 23:00 < ddnet-discord> so even if people bind the wrong one they still get kill protection \o/ 23:01 < ddnet-discord> so if you want to commit suicide, you need to kill yourself twice? 23:01 < ddnet-discord> i mean, send flag 23:02 < ddnet-discord> after 20 mins yeah i guess 23:02 < ddnet-discord> what if you accidentialy press kill twice? D: 23:02 < ddnet-discord> you could always get a bind like say /allowsemicolon;/kill;/kill to nuke yourself 😛 23:02 < ddnet-discord> yea, i know that 23:02 < ddnet-discord> well if you are spamming kill you prolly want to die 23:03 < ddnet-discord> i don't think so, sometimes you wwant to start chating 23:03 < ddnet-discord> you are writing someone, then OH cmon 23:03 < ddnet-discord> i didn't press "T" 23:03 < ddnet-discord> buum, you are dead 23:03 < ddnet-discord> because you said twice "A " XD 23:03 < ddnet-discord> or somehitng 23:04 < ddnet-discord> Idea 23:04 < ddnet-discord> if you want to kill yourself, then you have to type random string, which will be generated by server 23:04 < ddnet-discord> yea, nobody will kill accidentialy 😄 23:05 < ddnet-discord> or something like PIN, 4 numbers 23:05 < ddnet-discord> that's just ridiculous amount of work just to kill yourself 😛 23:05 < ddnet-discord> don't think we get that many accidental kills either 23:05 < ddnet-discord> but look at it from another side. 23:05 < ddnet-discord> you are playing a insane map 23:06 < ddnet-discord> then you are accidentialy press twice kill command, OH CMON i died 23:06 < ddnet-discord> but now, you have to type 4 numbers, random numbers 23:06 < ddnet-discord> if you really want to die 23:06 < ddnet-discord> everyone are happy 23:06 < ddnet-discord> @Learath2 not so many with 20 min protection, but then it won't work its kinda bad 23:06 < ddnet-discord> cause it will be neccessary only afeter 20 mib 23:06 < ddnet-discord> ;D 23:07 < ddnet-discord> well i'm not sure 23:08 < ddnet-discord> we could poll for it i guess 23:08 < ddnet-discord> i have a proposal, let the people who don't think when doing their binds recieve it's consequence :D 23:08 < ddnet-discord> i for one wouldn't want to type a PIN just to reset a run 23:08 < ddnet-discord> pin sounds overkill 23:09 < ddnet-discord> it was just a stupid idea, don't take it serious 23:09 < ddnet-discord> /kill -y 23:09 < ddnet-discord> 😄 23:09 < ddnet-discord> make it the unix way 23:09 < ddnet-discord> /kill --yes -r='because yes" 23:09 < ddnet-discord> with -R 23:10 < ddnet-discord> it will kill everyone, recursive 23:10 < ddnet-discord> V 23:10 < ddnet-discord> :V 23:10 < ddnet-discord> /kill --force --verbose --reason="I hate my life" 23:10 < ddnet-discord> rm -rf / --reason="suicide is the only option" 23:10 < ddnet-discord> once 23:11 < ddnet-discord> i did chmod 000 -R 23:11 < ddnet-discord> in . 23:11 < ddnet-discord> :/ 23:11 < ddnet-discord> or 23:11 < ddnet-discord> no it was 23:11 < ddnet-discord> chmod 666 -R 23:11 < ddnet-discord> @Savander type all in one sentence please xD 23:11 < ddnet-discord> sorry, im old. It works like that 15 yeas ago 23:11 < ddnet-discord> lol 23:11 < ddnet-discord> i pressed enter every word :3 23:12 < ddnet-discord> no one liked that ever, they were just being polite 23:13 < ddnet-discord> i didn't say 23:13 < ddnet-discord> anyone likes that 23:13 < ddnet-discord> i said, it was LIKE THAT then xD 23:13 < ddnet-discord> was it? 23:13 < ddnet-discord> yup 23:13 < ddnet-discord> It felt like a dynamic conversation, you know 23:13 < Learath2> MSN, AOL? 23:14 < ddnet-discord> ?: O 23:14 < ddnet-discord> set protection time to the (average finish time)/2 23:14 < ddnet-discord> maybe would be a good idea 23:14 < ddnet-discord> Being able to set your own protection time might be nice 23:15 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> http://z0r.de/7898 23:15 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> 😄 23:15 < ddnet-discord> it wouldnt save accross servers nor accross disconnects connects i think 23:15 < ddnet-discord> so my idea is better imo 23:15 < ddnet-discord> Ryozuki that would be bad on super long or super short maps 23:15 < ddnet-discord> easy to fix 23:15 < ddnet-discord> set a min and max 23:15 < ddnet-discord> we can add to client 23:16 < ddnet-discord> So basicly like it is right now 23:16 < ddnet-discord> kill protection time 23:16 < ddnet-discord> 😄 23:16 < ddnet-discord> mm 23:16 < ddnet-discord> that would be it 23:16 < Learath2> ooh an account system would work nicely with that :P 23:16 < ddnet-discord> @Savander :D xD 23:16 < ddnet-discord> Learath2, yea! 23:16 < ddnet-discord> @Learath2 you went to the dark side (irc) 23:16 < ddnet-discord> anotherer advantage ! 23:16 < Ryozuki> :o 23:16 < Learath2> much much easier to use irc 23:17 < Ryozuki> much lightweight and faster 23:17 < ddnet-discord> fuck lightweighting 23:17 < ddnet-discord> xd 23:17 < ddnet-discord> i likes dark theme, future 23:17 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> :/ 23:17 < ddnet-discord> i have dark theme in irc 23:18 < Learath2> my irc theme is completely dark 23:18 < Learath2> much darker then the discord theme too 23:18 < ddnet-discord> with, fireworks 23:18 < ddnet-discord> and effects 23:18 < ddnet-discord> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/326108362557358080/Screenshot_1.png 23:18 < ddnet-discord> Command sent from Discord by Savander: 23:18 < ddnet-discord> !! ! 23:18 < ddnet-discord> 😄 23:18 < ddnet-discord> im web designer k? 23:18 < ddnet-discord> not C 23:18 < ddnet-discord> 😄 23:18 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> lvl :c 23:19 < ddnet-discord> @1110010hacker1101011 int 0x80 23:19 < ddnet-discord> 404php 23:19 < ddnet-discord> http://www.wasz.ovh/img/lVT2DjUD50155 23:20 < ddnet-discord> The "int" instruction calls an interrupt. An interrupt is basically a signal to the CPU which stops it, and calls a special handler function (declared in the IDT, or Interrupt Descriptor Table). On many UNIX-based OSes, interrupt 80h, or 128, triggers a system call (with the call number in EAX, and its arguments in EBX, ECX, EDX, ESI, EDI, and EBP). This is highly implementation specific, and could do anything in different 23:20 < ddnet-discord> OSes. #bored 23:20 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> @RyO's What 0x80? 23:21 < ddnet-discord> int 0x80 its an assembly instruction 23:21 < ddnet-discord> https://learath2.info/sc.png 23:21 < ddnet-discord> explained in the big text i sent 23:21 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> ah 23:21 < ddnet-discord> @Learath2 true dark side xD 23:21 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> :\ 23:21 < ddnet-discord> look like a, 80s star wars 23:21 < ddnet-discord> it could be worse 23:22 < ddnet-discord> system to destroy the planets 23:22 < ddnet-discord> like @deen is mother-planet or smoething 23:22 < ddnet-discord> For a second i thought i have a Friend ;__; 23:22 < ddnet-discord> i had greyer colors then that 23:22 < ddnet-discord> zwel is an moon 23:22 < ddnet-discord> but i noticed it looks much better likes this 23:23 < ddnet-discord> https://www.vivaolinux.com.br/imagens/artigos/comunidade/bitchx.jpg despite the name, looks cool ascii 23:23 < ddnet-discord> meh, i don't like console look 23:23 < ddnet-discord> :/ 23:23 < ddnet-discord> @Savander I didn't either 23:23 < ddnet-discord> i like the style of the ubuntu terminal 23:23 < ddnet-discord> its beutiful 23:24 < ddnet-discord> but then you notice how much quicker you can work on a terminal 23:24 < ddnet-discord> Could you show me? 23:24 < ddnet-discord> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/FoJ3EnWEhvtB7foVgXmNHu9Fa-j93mSVPMnV0hjLb4Qv8ZDAg9ZSJF3sZyk_7I6zF6WovRaPxUC--kGF5Al0QnCu-ffIWliTF2Xk8l_PV5q-LBySREg 23:24 < ddnet-discord> maybe, but i don't need to be quick as possible 23:24 < ddnet-discord> with oh my zsh u can do this https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zakaziko99/agnosterzak-ohmyzsh-theme/master/images/agnosterzak-01.png 23:24 < ddnet-discord> :O, lookss/ pretty 23:25 < ddnet-discord> see when you take out the pain of working through a (most of the time badly designed) ui and add all the gained time to doing things that you actually enjoy it's worth it 23:25 < ddnet-discord> maybe, but im not using linux muhc time. 23:26 < ddnet-discord> rather, photoshop/adobe_premier_pro/after_effects 23:26 < ddnet-discord> and phpstorm to code in PHP and HTMl/CSS + JS 23:26 < ddnet-discord> well in your case it's different, I do a lot of C and most of the time windows gets in the way 23:26 < ddnet-discord> console is only ran, when im using pug with sass 23:26 < ddnet-discord> with it's ugly ass unresizable 1960's console and half ass'd support for C99 23:26 < ddnet-discord> yea i klnow, web development is much different 23:27 < ddnet-discord> than c programming 23:27 < ddnet-discord> visual studio + c# works so well 23:27 < ddnet-discord> oh yea, using C# with unity 23:27 < ddnet-discord> 😄 23:27 < ddnet-discord> but i don't need to use conosle then, Unity do it for me 23:28 < ddnet-discord> i've done some web development on linux for the last couple of days, I must say i'm quite impressed with how much the tooling improved, but still nowhere near the adobe CS 23:28 < ddnet-discord> vim is still best 23:28 < ddnet-discord> as a editor yes 23:28 < ddnet-discord> its not an ide 23:28 < ddnet-discord> I'm learning Sublime Text 3 23:28 < ddnet-discord> there is vim mode 23:28 < ddnet-discord> loved working with Unreal, not so much with Unity, Unity seems to have contradicting information everywhere even in its documentation 23:29 < ddnet-discord> Sublime Text 3 is brilliant 23:29 < ddnet-discord> http://spacemacs.org/ 23:29 < ddnet-discord> contradicting information? 23:29 < ddnet-discord> fkin emacs 23:29 < ddnet-discord> The best editor is neither Emacs nor Vim, it's Emacs and Vim! 23:29 < ddnet-discord> hate emacs b/c emacs tries to become a bloody OS 23:29 < ddnet-discord> thats the spaceemacs desc 23:29 < ddnet-discord> spacemacs = vim + emacs 23:30 < ddnet-discord> there is a goddamn teledildonics plugin for emacs 23:30 < ddnet-discord> http://spacemacs.org/img/screenshots/ss5.png 23:30 < ddnet-discord> thats how it looks 23:30 < ddnet-discord> it looks cool 23:30 < ddnet-discord> vim all the way 23:31 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> @Ryozuki good photo 23:31 < ddnet-discord> <1110010hacker1101011> cool + 23:31 < ddnet-discord> vim ftw! 23:31 < ddnet-discord> gdin + manjaro 23:32 < ddnet-discord> https://learath2.info/scc.png 23:33 < ddnet-discord> c has foreach? 23:33 < ddnet-discord> nice 23:33 < ddnet-discord> my vim used to look all cool, then i lost my vimrc, then i didn't want to bother creating a new one, then i found sublime 23:33 < ddnet-discord> http://www.wasz.ovh/img/JOr2jfmi50244 23:33 < ddnet-discord> @ZimE that is python, was trying to serialize the entire gamestate with generated code 23:34 < ddnet-discord> LARAVEL :V 23:34 < ddnet-discord> .h python 23:34 < ddnet-discord> wut 23:34 < ddnet-discord> Omg get theme for sublime text @Learath2 https://github.com/ihodev/sublime-boxy 23:34 < ddnet-discord> ;-; 23:34 < ddnet-discord> @ZimE if you pay attention i'm most certainly on the tab of genser.py 23:34 < ddnet-discord> i tired 23:34 < ddnet-discord> sry 23:34 < ddnet-discord> looks cool 23:34 < ddnet-discord> @Oblikumquat \ 23:35 < ddnet-discord> @Savander never quite enjoyed using frameworks in PHP, they usually do one thing wrong which gets me mad then i end up rewriting the entire thing 23:35 < ddnet-discord> im using laravel , cause i need to find a job 23:35 < ddnet-discord> laravel is most common framework used in web development 23:35 < ddnet-discord> @Savander actually yours looks pretty neat as well is that the material theme? 23:35 < ddnet-discord> symfony? 23:35 < ddnet-discord> yea, material + Jeffery Way 23:35 < ddnet-discord> @Oblikumquat used to use Cobalt 2 23:35 < ddnet-discord> laravel is most popular 23:36 < ddnet-discord> don't want to split myself 23:36 < ddnet-discord> i really love the background color in monokai 23:36 < ddnet-discord> I can't stand the white sidebar on the default theme on sublime 23:36 < ddnet-discord> get atom 23:36 < ddnet-discord> ❤ 23:36 < ddnet-discord> using atom for pug and sass xD 23:36 < ddnet-discord> (y) 23:36 < ddnet-discord> @Savander obv, it's just that I have issues 😛 23:36 < ddnet-discord> https://pugjs.org/api/getting-started.html 23:36 < ddnet-discord> atom takes 300years to load up 23:36 < ddnet-discord> ^ 23:36 < ddnet-discord> now ay 23:36 < ddnet-discord> ye atom is so slow 23:37 < ddnet-discord> i used atom 23:37 < ddnet-discord> takes 5 times the hdd space 23:37 < ddnet-discord> and it was faster than sublime 23:37 < ddnet-discord> i replaced atom with vs code 23:37 < ddnet-discord> maybe my computer is too good (yt) 23:37 < ddnet-discord> even after i load it up it's slow in editing files 23:37 < ddnet-discord> For some reason I always so "Ryozuki is playing Visual Studio Code" on discord 23:37 < ddnet-discord> cause, Ryozuki is pro codder. Anyway 23:37 < ddnet-discord> @Savander i have 16gb ram and 4core 3.2ghz computer with a 350€ gpu and its still slow 23:37 < ddnet-discord> how about your game? 😄 23:38 < ddnet-discord> im not pro xD 23:38 < ddnet-discord> you are!~ 23:38 < ddnet-discord> @Savander working on it, its a long way 23:38 < ddnet-discord> ryozuki u forgot to tick "fast mode" 23:38 < ddnet-discord> :). anyway. Sublime is good for a projet, where you know every class, function and code 23:38 < ddnet-discord> when you are working with framework 23:38 < ddnet-discord> it's better to use some ide 23:38 < ddnet-discord> like phpstorm, for PHP 23:38 < ddnet-discord> i even tried some bleeding edge optimized build that cut down on loading times by 80% and it was still slower then sublime and vim :/ 23:39 < ddnet-discord> u cant be faster than vim 23:39 < ddnet-discord> lul 23:39 < ddnet-discord> nope 23:39 < ddnet-discord> sublime ends up being faster for huge files actually 23:39 < ddnet-discord> rly? 23:39 < ddnet-discord> didnt know 23:39 < ddnet-discord> b/c sublime doesn't load the entire file at once while vim won't render it until it's all in memory 23:39 < ddnet-discord> and i thought atom > sublime... i uninstall atom now, thx guys 23:39 < ddnet-discord> 😄 23:40 < ddnet-discord> @ZimE by all means use what you enjoy 23:40 < ddnet-discord> i love the atom trailer 23:40 < ddnet-discord> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7aEiVwBAdk 23:40 < ddnet-discord> it's about productivity not about following the bandwagon 23:40 < ddnet-discord> i like to join ur bandwagon 23:40 < ddnet-discord> i love the atom git integration while the one in sublime sucks bull testicles 23:41 < ddnet-discord> I'm annoyed that sublime text constantly nags me to pay for it Also you probably can't beat the git integration on atom considering that github made it 23:41 < ddnet-discord> reason why i don't use sublime 23:41 < ddnet-discord> crack it urself 23:41 < ddnet-discord> lul 23:41 < ddnet-discord> nah 23:42 < ddnet-discord> i like more vs code 23:42 < ddnet-discord> i'd gladly pay for it if the guy wasn't smoking crack with that 70$ price 23:42 < ddnet-discord> like WTF 23:42 < ddnet-discord> XDD 23:42 < ddnet-discord> ikr, $70 wtf 23:42 < ddnet-discord> crack lul 23:42 < ddnet-discord> i'd pay 20-30$ easily 23:42 < ddnet-discord> it's a great editor tbh 23:42 < ddnet-discord> @Learath2 poor guy, he needs his daily coffee 23:42 < ddnet-discord> if he sold it for 30$ i'd bet a lot more people would buy it 23:43 < ddnet-discord> sure he'd need to triple his sales 23:43 < ddnet-discord> We need an economist 23:43 < ddnet-discord> he should be like putin, decrease taxes 23:43 < ddnet-discord> more people will buy it 23:44 < ddnet-discord> like more pople now pay taxes 23:44 < ddnet-discord> 😄 23:44 < ddnet-discord> IDEs are all doing it wrong too 23:44 < ddnet-discord> instead of making things lightweight they pile on feature after feature 23:44 < ddnet-discord> Facebook shows me that: https://teamsql.io/ 23:44 < ddnet-discord> looks perfect 😮 dark design 😮 23:45 < ddnet-discord> dark ftw 23:45 < ddnet-discord> light themes shouldn't exist 23:45 < ddnet-discord> they are eye killers 23:45 < ddnet-discord> dont jump o nthe dark bandwagon guys! 23:45 < ddnet-discord> had the "pleasure" of using Visual Studio a couple of days ago, took me 5 hours to rebuild the stupid index, 2 hours for VAX to rebuild it's index and when i unloaded a project from the solution it did it all again 23:46 < ddnet-discord> i havent got a problem with vs studi 23:46 < ddnet-discord> it works better with c 3 23:46 < ddnet-discord> c# 23:46 < ddnet-discord> * 23:46 < ddnet-discord> than c++ tho 23:47 < ddnet-discord> i used it for both and you are quite right about that, C# seems to work better, but both crap out at the huge scale of projects that VS claims to cater for 23:47 < ddnet-discord> just try loading the UE4 engine code on a computer that is less then the latest 23:47 < ddnet-discord> its true vs eats lot of ram 23:48 < ddnet-discord> lucky i have lot :P 23:48 < ddnet-discord> don't get me started on MSVC which has no business calling itself a compiler 23:48 < ddnet-discord> I had 16gb on the pc here back in turkey and it quickly hit the ceiling and slowed down considerably, b/c oom you know 23:48 < ddnet-discord> m$ made c# and vs so obviusly they focused their ide to be perfect with c# 23:48 < ddnet-discord> lol, it's windows 23:48 < ddnet-discord> that's normal, it eats 23:48 < ddnet-discord> 16gb ram 23:49 < ddnet-discord> @Savander it eats <2gb 23:49 < ddnet-discord> depends what im doing 23:49 < ddnet-discord> 😄 23:49 < ddnet-discord> @Ryozuki m$ was working on MSVC and C++ looong before C# was even a thing 23:49 < ddnet-discord> msvc sucks 23:49 < ddnet-discord> @Ryozuki try loading a huge project like UE4 or some other recent engine 23:51 < ddnet-discord> What c++ ide does everybody use when they don't use visual studio 23:51 < ddnet-discord> UE4 looks like a too big engine 23:51 < ddnet-discord> i prefer unity xD 23:51 < ddnet-discord> no IDE at all seems to work amazingly for C++ 😛 23:51 < ddnet-discord> yea 23:51 < ddnet-discord> never found a perfect one 23:51 < ddnet-discord> @Learath2 you tried qtcreator? 23:52 < ddnet-discord> it also encourages better programming practices then spamming autocomplete 😛 23:52 < ddnet-discord> I tried modding some TW code with eclipse, but it crashed a lot 23:52 < ddnet-discord> @Learath2 http://www.codeblocks.org/ 23:52 < ddnet-discord> 😄 23:52 < ddnet-discord> yeah i used eclipse the first time around too 23:52 < ddnet-discord> i dont like eclipse 23:52 < ddnet-discord> You tried CLion ? 23:52 < ddnet-discord> yes 23:52 < ddnet-discord> vs is better 23:52 < ddnet-discord> nice IDE so sad that they bloated it to crap with features and it's written in Java(eugh) 23:53 < ddnet-discord> Doesn't Jetbrains stuff cost a ton 23:53 < ddnet-discord> depends 23:53 < ddnet-discord> not that much if u are student etc 23:53 < ddnet-discord> CLion was cute, QtCreator meh, DevC++ horrible, VS sluggish 23:54 < ddnet-discord> Oh thx @Ryozuki I didn't notice that 23:54 < ddnet-discord> i guess im to used to vs ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 23:54 < ddnet-discord> never got around to using code::blocks b/c when i learned about it i was already enjoying my split screen of text editor and terminal 23:54 < ddnet-discord> @Ryozuki VS works fine for the small stuff and the lag becomes less and less noticable the smaller your project is 23:54 < ddnet-discord> What about, Dev-C++? 23:55 < ddnet-discord> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Devcpp5110.png 23:55 < ddnet-discord> @Learath2 how much ram you have? 23:55 < ddnet-discord> but then you try sublime on the same project and it skips around code like its butter 23:55 < ddnet-discord> @Ryozuki 32G 23:55 < ddnet-discord> lol 23:55 < ddnet-discord> it's not about the ram 23:55 < ddnet-discord> why so much? 23:55 < ddnet-discord> you render or smth? 23:55 < ddnet-discord> he stroe data in ram 23:56 < ddnet-discord> modern games and shitty browser coding sucks my ram dry 23:56 < ddnet-discord> 32gb is overkill still i think xD 23:56 < ddnet-discord> neither of them give 2 shits about memory management b/c modern languages teach them to just leave it to the GC 23:56 < ddnet-discord> 😄 23:56 < ddnet-discord> like a php programmers 23:56 < ddnet-discord> and working with big data 23:56 < ddnet-discord> (y) 23:57 < ddnet-discord> well brb playing lol 23:57 < ddnet-discord> you trigger a manual GC cycle in Rust (Unity) it takes down ram usage by 6G after an hour of play 23:57 < ddnet-discord> select * from big_table with milion records 23:57 < ddnet-discord> yea, to ram 23:57 < ddnet-discord> google chrome and firefox both love just taking all available ram 23:58 < ddnet-discord> right, but imo. firefox is slower 23:58 < ddnet-discord> and generally, i don't like it 23:58 < ddnet-discord> and i like playing inbetween working in unreal so that also takes a crapton of ram 23:58 < ddnet-discord> are you working on some kind of game? 23:58 < ddnet-discord> I used to love firefox, then they added garbage after garbage, making it slower and slower every patch 23:59 < ddnet-discord> so now i have to use chromium which also leaks as much but atleast it works fast