00:00 <@deen> haha 00:00 < Savander> ^>^ 00:01 < Learath2> <('-'<) (>'-')> ^('-')^ 00:01 < Savander> :D:D 00:01 < Savander> ( ") (" ) 00:01 < Savander> (.") 00:02 < Savander> (".) 00:02 < Savander> xD 00:11 < Savander> lol 00:11 < Savander> i can see frame by frame 00:12 < Savander> how teleport works 00:12 < Savander> hahah 00:12 < Savander> :D 00:12 < Savander> funny :D 00:12 < Savander> maybe i should record it in 300+ fps 00:12 < Savander> and make a scientific video about teleportation in teeworlds. 00:12 < Savander> 00:12 < Savander> xD 00:12 < Savander> its good idea! What you think! 00:12 < Savander> haha 00:13 <@heinrich5991> Savander: that's just hte demo player that interpolates :) 00:13 < Savander> csiI! 00:13 < Savander> :c 00:41 < KinG_> hey 00:41 < KinG_> deen: commands don't work in ddnet persian 00:41 < KinG_> like /top5 00:41 <@deen> KinG_: server looks down, i can't reach it 00:41 < KinG_> wtf! 00:42 < KinG_> can u ping it? 00:42 <@deen> KinG_: as I said, it's connected to GER database, so if it has no connection to europe, no commands will work 00:42 <@deen> no 00:42 < KinG_> deen oh now i see 00:42 <@deen> can't ping it from any location in the world 00:42 < KinG_> deen: we got ddos and server changed to intranet 00:42 < KinG_> so attack stop 00:43 < KinG_> but deen i still join from internet list in game! 00:43 < KinG_> i refresh and i have servers 00:43 <@deen> they will disappear if the masterserver can't reach them 00:45 <@deen> well, we have a problem if the server gets ddosed and taken off the internet all the time 00:45 <@deen> when will it be back? 00:45 < KinG_> deen: yeah just need some time 00:45 < KinG_> deen: next time install database on server itself ^^ 00:45 < KinG_> but at least we are sure we won't get ddosed 00:45 <@deen> that's a lot of work and when the server suddenly disappears, then i have a lot of trouble fixing the database 00:46 <@deen> also, it doesn't really work with the ddnet concept of databases that a server just disappears for hours 00:46 < KinG_> http://ddnet.tw/status don't work for me 00:46 <@deen> works for me 00:46 < KinG_> ok works now 00:47 < KinG_> ok 00:47 < KinG_> server back online 00:49 < KinG_> down again 00:49 < KinG_> wth 00:50 <@deen> yeah, we're getting lots of attacks today 00:50 <@deen> on Chile and GER too 00:54 < KinG_> ok so deen i'm gonna setup a firewall 00:55 < KinG_> deen: give me the ports u need and seperate them with , like 22,6565,... 00:55 <@deen> oh shit 00:56 <@deen> Now I understand why in the last days many people have problems connecting to GER... 00:56 < KinG_> why?! 00:56 <@deen> the attackers are collecting IPs of players, then spoof them and DDoS the servers with their IPs 00:56 <@deen> so they get blocked and they can't play anymore 00:56 < KinG_> but how?! 00:57 < KinG_> how do they collect players ip?!!!! wtf 01:00 < KinG_> deen: any ideas how they collect ip?! 01:00 < masoudd> Who collects ip? 01:00 < KinG_> some assholes ^^ 01:01 < eeeee> sounds like a time for teewebs http serverlist tchnlg 01:02 < KinG_> hmm 01:03 < KinG_> there is a possiblity that a popular website for teeworlds is controled by attackers 01:03 < KinG_> so they get ips! but a low possiblity 01:03 < eeeee> s/website/server 01:03 <@deen> and not a popular one, just any server 01:04 <@deen> and i know it is, because they use that to ddos players as well 01:04 < KinG_> i got dced yesterday several times until i changed ip 01:04 < KinG_> but how my ip?!!!!! 01:04 < eeeee> KinG_: do you use server browser or only the ddnet tab? 01:05 < KinG_> server browser 01:05 < KinG_> and i only play on ddnet 01:05 < eeeee> they won't get your ip if you only use ddnet tab 01:05 < KinG_> that's confusing because i never joined other server than ddnet and no websites yesterday! 01:06 < eeeee> your client still sends his ip to every teeworlds server in the world 01:06 < eeeee> whenever you use open server browser 01:06 < KinG_> oops 01:07 < eeeee> that's how ping is computed 01:07 < KinG_> i understand now 01:07 < KinG_> so we just have to find out which server is stealing ip 01:07 < eeeee> not possible unfortunately 01:07 < KinG_> we can see the ips of attackers 01:08 < KinG_> and match it 01:08 < eeeee> and even if we do find it, they'll just change ip and rename the server so you have to look for it again 01:08 < KinG_> so.... 01:08 < KinG_> no way to stop them 01:08 < eeeee> we just have to come up with an alternative to server browser 01:08 < KinG_> i'll still try to install a good firewall on server lets see if it'll work 01:08 < eeeee> it won't -_- 01:09 < masoudd> Anyone can get the ip of teeworld players. If I understand correctly, when you refresh the server list, you connect to all of them to check you ping. So all you have to do is to have a server registered to the master server and IPs start flowing your way 01:10 < KinG_> and start ddosing them 01:11 < KinG_> damn server have no internet connect i have to find a way to install needed files from intranet 01:12 <@deen> KinG_: i think we had this discussion before, software firewalls don't work when your network gets overloaded 01:12 < KinG_> yeah .... 01:13 < masoudd> who would ddos clients? 01:13 <@deen> eeeee: an alternative explanation would be that some of the botter clients just installed a botnet thingy on the clients 01:13 < masoudd> crazy 01:13 <@deen> masoudd: it's especially bad for players who can't change ip 01:13 < masoudd> yeah 01:14 < masoudd> analyze the incoming traffic. see where it is coming from? how many ips are attacking you 01:15 < KinG_> why they only ddos ddnet persian?! 01:15 < KinG_> we have no players 01:15 <@deen> KinG_: I'd guess someone else ddoses you, someone from iran 01:15 < KinG_> wait a sec ... 01:15 <@deen> KinG_: and GER also gets ddosed but it has protection 01:15 < KinG_> persian pro is down 01:16 < KinG_> and 10 mins after that 01:16 <@deen> so someone is attacking them and you 01:16 < KinG_> ddnet persian is down too 01:16 < KinG_> but it's impossible 01:16 < KinG_> persian pro is on intranet 01:16 < KinG_> and the person that is attacking us attacks from internet 01:16 <@deen> you can do an intranet ddos attack maybe 01:16 < KinG_> ! 01:17 < KinG_> what u mean 01:18 <@deen> maybe they have a botnet inside iran, then they can attack persian pro even when it's not on the internet 01:18 < KinG_> how can i see incoming ips and outgoing ones on linux? 01:20 <@deen> KinG_: no idea what you're trying to do^^ 01:20 < KinG_> just trying to see what ips are connected to ddnet persian server 01:20 < KinG_> ipconfig on windows 01:20 <@deen> you can use tcpdump, but I'd prefer not to 01:20 < KinG_> dunno what is the command on linux 01:21 < masoudd> Hmm read netstat or ss manpage 01:21 < KinG_> yeah on netstat 01:21 <@deen> if anyone wants to investigate whether a bot client installs malware, the affected client claims to have only used this client: http://13x37.com/portal.php 01:22 <@deen> and I've heard of 13x37 clan ddosing servers before 01:22 < KinG_> good that i never used it 01:24 < eeeee> guess we'll have to bundle an antivirus solution with ddnet client soon :D 01:24 <@deen> eeeee: haha 01:25 < masoudd> KinG_: If it's coming from intranet you can find who's doing it 01:25 < KinG_> no for me it's coming from internet but for Persian pro is from intranet and i know who is doing it 01:26 <@deen> eeeee: maybe he was just mistakenly detected as one of the ddosers 01:27 < KinG_> persian up again 01:29 < KinG_> ok i have the graph of internet usage of server 01:29 < KinG_> it's wierd! 01:30 < KinG_> no more than 60Mb incoming traffic 01:30 < KinG_> so why server shuts down internet?! 01:32 <@deen> no idea 01:37 < KinG_> deen: when server is out of access from german and someone just finish a map, what happens? it'll get updated with server when german can reach server?! 01:37 <@deen> hopefully 01:37 <@deen> but maybe not always 01:38 < KinG_> so if u install database on irn what?! 01:39 <@deen> eeeee: ok, they say it was definitely no mistake, so either part of a TW botnet or getting spoofed 01:48 < eeeee> we can try to request ravomavain, the master imperator wielder of h4x rays 01:49 < eeeee> he did some reverse eng back in the day but seems very busy nowdays 01:49 <@deen> or just randomly part of a botnet, considering the number of our players it's not impossible that someone just randomly ends up being in a botnet 01:50 < KinG_> i'm sure that i'm not in a botnet ^_^ 01:52 < KinG_> ok another odd thing! i can't see servers in DDNet tab 01:53 < KinG_> only on internet tab 01:53 < KinG_> wth?! 01:53 <@deen> maybe some filter activated 01:53 < KinG_> no all off 01:54 < KinG_> restarted client and it works 01:54 < KinG_> ah nvm 01:54 < Savander> serverlist isnt from ddnet server? 01:54 <@deen> ok, weird 01:54 < Savander> i mean json 01:54 <@deen> Savander: yes, serverlist is from ddnet, but if it can't be loaded it should use the cached version 01:54 < Savander> hm. 01:54 < Savander> okay 02:12 < KinG_> !twp KinG 02:12 < Nimda_6518> KinG is currently playing Exchange on server : DDNet Persian - Solo [teecity.ir] [DDraceNetwork] [3/64]. 02:12 < KinG_> this map is really annoying 02:14 <@deen> yeah, it's pretty hard 02:20 < KinG_> on the last part btw 02:20 < KinG_> i finished this on persian pro 02:21 < masoudd> KinG_: I can't find the ddnet persian solo 02:21 < KinG_> 8305 masoudd 02:55 < KinG_> this last part is KILLING me 02:55 < KinG_> !twp KinG 02:55 < Nimda_6518> KinG is currently playing Exchange on server : DDNet Persian - Solo [teecity.ir] [DDraceNetwork] [3/64]. 03:15 < KinG_> ahhhhhhhh any ideas how to get passed this last part of Exchange?!:| 03:23 <@deen> nope, never played the map 03:32 < KinG_> 92mins playing map 60 mins on last 2 part :| 03:41 < KinG_> 102mins and still on final part 03:41 < KinG_> world record is 1min and 50 secs ^^ 04:13 < KinG_> deen: u still here? 04:13 < KinG_> deen: check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtM1BmU5O44 i checked, these maps are not in ddnet map list 04:14 < KinG_> deen: then where do these guys finish these?! 09:39 < DMTee> hola everyone :) 09:39 < DMTee> deen u here? 09:42 <@EastByte> hello DMTee 12:06 < Nimda_6518> Woader by Destoros just released on Ddmax at 2015-07-14 12:00 12:06 < Nimda_6518> WinterMine by Alborq just released on Ddmax at 2015-07-14 12:00 12:06 < Nimda_6518> Violet by Ama just released on Ddmax at 2015-07-14 12:00 12:06 < Nimda_6518> X-Cross by Bixes just released on Ddmax at 2015-07-14 12:00 12:18 <@deen> Only 1 more day of ddmax releases 13:39 < Sadale> What's ddmax? Is it a clan? 13:41 < Savander> Old ddrace server 13:41 < Savander> very oldl 13:42 < Savander> a lot of maps from there 13:43 < Sadale> ah. interesting :3 13:43 < Sadale> Speaking of old server, I misses the day when city was very popular :( 13:44 < Sadale> [N]Race is now ded. It's not even compatible with 0.6.x series 13:44 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- pushed 2 new commits to DDRace64: http://git.io/vmY1C 13:44 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/DDRace64 2077a4f def: Add a string for localization 13:44 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/DDRace64 cc63e9f def: Fix demo cutter to add .demo file ending 13:47 <@EastByte> Sadale: you played city? 13:47 < Sadale> yep 13:47 < Sadale> EastByte, ^ 13:47 <@EastByte> what city mods do you still remember? :D 13:48 < Sadale> EastByte, MiKCity, Laser city, Fun Tee City(I made it :p) 13:48 <@EastByte> hm can't remember these names 13:49 < Sadale> EastByte, both mikcity and laser city ws made by micheal96? or mikeal96. I can't remember his exact nick. 13:49 <@EastByte> when I played there was buycity, b|city, ncity and e|city 13:49 < Sadale> EastByte, ah. you came later then. mikcity was in nrace era 13:49 <@EastByte> interesting 13:49 < Sadale> laser city was in a custom mod. 13:50 < Learath2> never quite got the hang of city mods 13:50 <@EastByte> hanging around, earning money, buying things 13:50 < Sadale> Well, it's kinda sad. The developer of [N]Race deleted the mod. Reason unknown :( 13:50 < Sadale> EastByte, ah. FYI: [N]Race had no money 13:51 <@EastByte> yes, and iirc [N]Race was the base of n city? 13:51 <@EastByte> which was developed by BotoX 13:51 < Sadale> I'm not quite sure. But the name of [N]City suggests so :p 13:51 <@EastByte> yea, there was some kind of racing mod before 13:52 <@EastByte> the citys these days are completly pay2win 13:53 < Sadale> Yet, I bet that the guys who made the city mod makes almost no money :p 13:53 <@EastByte> actually they do 13:53 < Sadale> o rly? :o 13:53 <@EastByte> a friend of mine 'Blinky' made about 100 euros in two weeks 13:53 < Sadale> Every two weeks? :o 13:54 < Sadale> or it's just two weeks? 13:54 <@EastByte> I think he stopped hosting it after that 13:54 < Sadale> ah. 13:54 < Sadale> interesting. :o 13:54 <@EastByte> but kids like to pay for vip stuff 13:55 < Sadale> I'm jealous. I never managed to make any money with programming :p 13:56 < Sadale> EastByte, BTW, the kids are going to be mad that the city was closed after two week. They paid it :p 13:56 <@EastByte> sure 13:57 <@EastByte> to earn money you only need to ignore your conscience 13:57 <@EastByte> it's that simple :P 13:58 < Sadale> lol not even true =p 13:58 < Sadale> Anyway, I'm already happy enough. Programming was v difficult for me. At least now I can program whatever I want, just like most average amateur programmers here :3 14:03 <@EastByte> Sadale: so you don't plan to do it professionally? 14:04 < Sadale> EastByte, hmm. not sure. At least I have no plan right now. 14:09 < Learath2> 100e ? must get in city business fast 14:11 <@EastByte> there is a living example :D 14:11 <@EastByte> http://ifcity.net/site.php?id=5&lang= 14:11 <@EastByte> see all the nice advantages? :D 14:11 <@deen> eeeee: a request for you :P http://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?t=1795 14:12 <@deen> EastByte: yeah, that's why i didn't want to host city servers on ddnet 14:12 <@deen> this kind of "donation" is called pay-to-win 14:12 <@EastByte> like I said :) 14:13 < Savander> pay-to-win rulez! 14:13 <@deen> not at all, it's disgusting 14:13 <@deen> The only thing I would add for ddnet is pay-to-kill-someone-in-race 14:13 < Savander> xDDD 14:13 < Savander> haha 14:14 <@EastByte> that's a joke I suppose 14:14 < Savander> league of legends or counter-strike global offesnvie has good shop 14:14 <@EastByte> Savander: in teeworlds that would be like selling skins 14:14 < Savander> yes 14:14 < Savander> something like that 14:14 < Savander> additional eyes 14:14 <@deen> EastByte: people do sell skins 14:15 < Savander> (0.7 teeworlds) 14:15 < Savander> hats 14:15 <@EastByte> deen: I mean bound to an acccuont 14:15 < Savander> gameskins 14:15 <@deen> which is one of the reasons I removed all BB skins from ddnet client 14:15 < Savander> etc 14:15 <@deen> EastByte: yeah, but other people accepted money because they knew they could talk me into adding a skin into ddnet client... 14:15 <@EastByte> hmmm 14:16 < Savander> Sellings skins in teeworlds, now is useless 14:16 < Savander> you can't see other people skins 14:16 < Savander> in csgo, lol, you see 14:17 < Savander> and that's cool :D 14:17 <@EastByte> someone could basically make a gravatar for teeworlds 14:17 <@deen> i don't think it's ok to make little kids addicted to a game and then take their money 14:18 <@EastByte> sure it's not okay 14:18 <@EastByte> but that's how it works 14:18 <@deen> some friend of my brother paid hundreds of euros for skins and stuff 14:18 < Savander> their pay for work 14:18 < Savander> why it's not okay? 14:18 <@EastByte> people without conscience can abuse that easily 14:19 <@deen> Savander: it's ok if you pay first, then play the game (forever) 14:19 <@deen> but they bate kids with a free game and then when they are addicted they need to pay to get better etc 14:19 < Savander> it's okay to pay for skins. If you can't do it yourself 14:19 < Savander> And you want a custom skin, visible in game 14:19 < Savander> you just pay for it 14:19 <@deen> well, the skins thing is just useless, i don't know why people pay for it^^ 14:19 < Savander> their decision 14:19 < Savander> to be "better" 14:20 < Savander> stand out in community 14:20 <@deen> Savander: yeah, skin is not as bad. play-to-win is worse 14:20 <@deen> pay* 14:20 <@deen> play-to-win is fine :P 14:21 < Savander> xDD 14:21 < Savander> hahahha 14:21 < Savander> ye, i don't like pay to win too 14:21 <@deen> I really like Minecraft's model 14:21 <@deen> where you pay once and get an account that you can use forever and have no more costs 14:21 <@deen> even though the game is highly addictive and could easily make much more money 14:22 < Savander> ye 14:23 < Savander> but now, minecraft is under microsoft 14:23 < Savander> they want to release new "minecrafT" 14:23 < Savander> 1. minecraft 10 - 10€ 14:23 < Savander> for windows 10 14:23 < Learath2> good people dont make money :P 14:23 < Savander> xD 14:24 < Learath2> I hosted the most pay to win Arma 2 Epoch server for a while 14:24 < Savander> Tibia 14:24 < Savander> Metin 2 14:24 < Savander> if you want something faster! 14:24 < Savander> PAY FOR IT! 14:24 <@deen> Savander: maybe MS can make minecraft their new UI when they remove Metro again 14:24 < Learath2> ofc until one of the admins leaked my scripts after then no money was made 14:25 <@EastByte> so you made money 14:25 <@EastByte> and you are not 'good' 14:25 < Learath2> mwhahahah 14:25 < Savander> what is bad in making money haha 14:25 < Learath2> well someone needs to pay the server bills 14:25 < Savander> people are stupid 14:25 < Learath2> deen: if you want a official ts server i do have one thats generally staffed 14:25 <@deen> Learath2: nah 14:25 <@deen> but thanks 14:26 <@deen> people always ask me to come on TS, i don't like TS :P 14:26 < Savander> :> 14:26 < Savander> you not? 14:26 < Learath2> I prefer mumble but community pressure made us move to ts 14:26 <@EastByte> ^ 14:27 < Savander> i saw you on teamspeak, several times :> 14:27 < Savander> And you was with us! 14:27 < Savander> were* 14:27 < Savander> you were* 14:27 < Savander> xD 14:30 <@deen> lies lies lies :P 14:31 < Savander> :c 14:31 <@EastByte> c: 14:31 < Savander> din 14:31 <@deen> °͜° 14:33 < Savander> ^^ 14:38 < Learath2> https://gist.github.com/ccd286644522c18e7731 14:39 < Learath2> anything else you think could happen on irc ? :D 14:39 <@deen> don't know irc well enough to know anything else 14:39 < Learath2> well should be good enough 14:40 <@deen> sure, can always extend it later i guess 14:40 < Learath2> just need to implement some methods to allow the plugin to interact with the bot now 14:42 < Savander> deen, you should repair this map or something :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVUab8ecX50 14:42 <@deen> don't understand how it's bugged 14:42 < Savander> look later 14:42 < Savander> 1.5 14:42 < Savander> 1 minut 30 14:43 <@deen> still don't understand what happened there 14:43 < Savander> tele + death in same place 14:44 < Savander> don't kill you if you have enough speed 14:44 <@deen> ah 14:44 <@deen> that's bad 14:44 < Savander> yes 14:44 < Savander> we bugged it, (not only we) 14:44 < Savander> onion .me probably too 14:44 < Savander> he has 1 minut 50 seconds as well. 14:45 <@deen> ah, i hate that yt plays another video after one ends 14:46 < Savander> sorry 14:46 <@deen> always scares me because i'm on another screen/tab^^ 14:46 < Savander> xd 14:46 < Savander> you can disable it 14:46 < Savander> right corner "Autoplay" 14:46 < Savander> rigght top corner 14:46 < Savander> on "similar videos" 14:46 < Savander> oh, no 14:47 < Savander> in "Up next" section 14:47 <@EastByte> deen: how to enable the old /pause mode? 14:47 <@deen> EastByte: sv_pauseable 1 and use /spec 14:48 <@EastByte> okay thanks 14:48 <@deen> mapper choice whether to enable it on ddnet 14:48 <@deen> i don't like it 14:48 <@deen> the russians probably still hate me for disabling it by default 14:48 < Savander> :D 14:48 < Savander> deen, you should remove some rankings 14:48 < Savander> on this map then 14:49 < Savander> 8 are cheated 14:49 < Savander> 8 ranks 14:49 <@deen> yes, but i don't know how to fix it and which are cheated 14:49 < Savander> come here 14:49 < Learath2> should have seen when we first added the new pause as /spec then removed the old pause 14:49 < Learath2> oh the shitstorm 14:49 <@deen> Savander: a bit busy with other stuff 14:49 < Savander> just put kill title 14:49 < Savander> around teleport 14:49 < Savander> tille* 15:27 <@EastByte> QuintessenZ official map is coming 15:27 <@EastByte> every member of the clan made some parts 15:27 <@EastByte> except me 15:36 <@deen> nice 15:37 <@deen> i finally got around to fix all my mail stuff 15:37 <@deen> getting full score on anti-spam measures for my outgoing mail 15:38 <@deen> my incoming mail spam filter is learning again 15:38 <@deen> and i get a mail when a cronjob on any ddnet server fails 15:46 <@EastByte> you are hosting mail still on your own? 15:47 <@deen> yep and now it finally works :P 15:47 <@deen> (perfetly i mean) 15:48 <@deen> perfectly* 15:48 <@EastByte> oh that's possible? :P 15:48 <@EastByte> I probably will never set up and smtp server because I'm afraid of it 15:51 <@deen> EastByte: there are some simple guides where you have to install 50 packages and edit 100 config files and then it kind of works until you figure out 20 typos in the guide and 10 things that have been deprecated in the last 6 months 15:52 <@deen> but it can't be worse than my other email account which is at united-internet 15:52 <@deen> they let all spam through and put my actual mails into spam filter... 15:54 <@EastByte> sounds promising 15:55 <@EastByte> I just use my mailbox at the domain provider gandi.net 15:55 <@EastByte> there you have 5 free mailboxes per domain 15:56 <@EastByte> but I think it also lets everthing through, which is how it should be? 15:57 <@EastByte> I mean how do you want to register on a website like baumalein.de were the activation mail has no source^^ 15:57 <@EastByte> where* 15:57 < Learath2> I set up my mailserver then forgot i cancelled the vps i set it up on 15:57 < Learath2> result lost all config 15:57 <@deen> EastByte: on ddnet forum i disabled the need to click on activation mail^^ 15:58 <@EastByte> that's good 15:58 <@deen> no spammer ever get through the forum's ingenious spam protection 15:58 <@deen> with our two great questions: "What does TW stand for?" and "What does DDNet stand for?" 16:39 <@deen> Should I wait for https://letsencrypt.org/ or is there a good free CA right now? 16:43 <@EastByte> no, please wait 16:45 <@EastByte> waiting some further months won't be so hard for ddnet.tw 16:47 <@deen> right, the only bad thing is the forum where you enter your password unencrypted 16:47 <@deen> or with my self-signed cert 17:06 < Nimda_6518> Regen 3 by Gridwyn just released on Brutal at 2015-07-14 17:00 17:08 <@deen> if someone wants to code sth: http://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?t=1797&p=18757#p18757 17:11 < Sadale> lol "This isn't the sense of creating and sharing skins, at least not for me." 17:12 < Sadale> agreed. Others can't view your new skin :( 17:13 <@EastByte> I just want every player to look unique 17:13 <@EastByte> the only way to do this is using normal skins + custom color 17:13 < Sadale> It's a flaw of teeworlds. :( 17:14 < Sadale> Teeworlds should automatically download custom skin of other players 17:14 <@EastByte> well a bit different in 0.7 17:14 <@deen> Sadale: eeeee has a patch so that you can download new skins via http from ddnet's skin database 17:14 < Sadale> EastByte, you heard some news of 0.7 ? 17:14 <@deen> so if he makes a PR we'll have that in ddnet soon 17:14 <@EastByte> 'it's coming this year' 17:14 < Sadale> deen, cool! 17:15 <@deen> EastByte: i thought about it, if TW goes to 0.7 and then gets released on steam, we wouldn't get any of the steam players at all 17:15 <@EastByte> orly :D 17:15 <@EastByte> we need the bridge then 17:15 <@deen> well, most new players never unselect the "default gametypes only" anyway 17:15 <@deen> so they'll stop playing TW before they discover ddnet 17:16 <@EastByte> casual gamers probably 17:16 <@deen> no, also people who would love ddnet but don't love TW the same way 17:16 <@deen> i played tw for maaaaany years before discovering ddrace 17:16 <@deen> and i only discovered it because i was playing at night and no one was online on vanilla and ictf 17:16 <@deen> and the only server with players was ddmax 17:17 <@EastByte> for ictf you already need filters disabled 17:17 <@deen> yeah, i still never played ddrace^^ 17:18 <@deen> i think it didn't exist when i found ictf 17:18 <@EastByte> hm we are different then 17:18 <@EastByte> I always played with filter settings 17:19 <@EastByte> (turning it on and off) 17:19 <@EastByte> and I guess I tested multiple mods 17:20 <@deen> cool, finally set it up to proxy my ssh connection to ddnet china over ddnet.tw 17:21 <@deen> because i noticed that i have 50-80% packet loss from home, but 0% from ddnet.tw 17:21 <@deen> now i don't have to wait 10 minutes to ssh connect anymore! 17:25 * Sadale is closer than EastByte compared with deen 17:25 * Sadale played with filter setting. That's how he discovered cities :3 17:26 < Sadale> Oh. I still remember the day the people use ctf as a race mod. 17:26 < Sadale> s/mod/map/ 17:26 < Sadale> They use flags as a goal. They also somehow invented dummy drag. 17:27 <@deen> Sadale: yeah, i also remember watching pros race ctf maps many years ago 17:27 <@deen> i always sucked at that myself 17:27 < Sadale> I came to teeworlds is late ctf-race era. After I came to teeworlds, ctf race maps disappear quickly and race mod spawns. 17:27 < Sadale> deen, same here. 17:27 < Sadale> When I played dummy drag for the first time, I had no idea what I was doing. I just see there's a tee hanging around suddenly got down. Then we enter there and gets up/ 17:28 < Sadale> Completely had no idea why the dummy could goes down :p 17:31 <@EastByte> I remember that when I played mods, many servers were hosted at home 17:32 <@EastByte> high pings everywhere 17:32 <@EastByte> and the fact that there is no client side freeze prediction... 17:34 <@deen> nowadays players consider the lack of freeze prediction a feature =/ 17:35 <@deen> you can use it to feel your ping 17:36 <@EastByte> "feel your ping" haha 17:36 <@EastByte> it feels awesome to have <40ms :P 17:37 <@EastByte> back then people with 16k adsl were the kings 17:38 < Sadale> EastByte, well, ping is still high everywhere for me. 17:38 < Sadale> teeworlds is an eurocentered game. It sucks in Hong King. 17:39 < Sadale> EastByte, BTW, I remember that 24/7 server was a feature. It's important for a city to success. 17:42 <@EastByte> well, WolfAlex <- this guy had a vps and hosted my server back then 17:47 < WolfAlex> :D 17:58 < Sadale> cool! 17:59 < Sadale> EastByte, I hosted my server on my own desktop computer. It shutdowns when I shutdown my computer :p 17:59 <@deen> Sadale: that's the best for testing maps 18:00 <@deen> when you're logged into rcon and save the map in editor, it's reloaded automatically 18:00 < Sadale> deen, well, I did that for a, uh, city for production. 18:00 <@deen> ^^ 18:00 < Sadale> aka non-testing maps 18:02 < Sadale> Now it's a bit better. I got a raspberry pi home server :3 18:03 <@EastByte> I also have a pi running 24/7 18:03 < Sadale> The original purpose of my RPI was for the server of my own game. Before RPI, I hosted my game server on a spare samsung phone :p 18:03 < Sadale> EastByte, same here 18:03 <@EastByte> pretty nice for tw servers actually 18:03 <@EastByte> haha 18:03 < Sadale> true. The server load of tw is pretty low. lower than I thought 18:03 < Sadale> Actually, I'm a bit worried that my pi may get hacked :( 18:05 < Sadale> I'm now putting all eggs into a single basket. Guess what? I've recently connected my RPI to a printer. so if the RPI got hacked, the hacker can waste my ink by printer black papers :p 18:05 < Sadale> jk. It won't print if I don't put paper on it 18:06 <@EastByte> reminds me of I wanted to set up my thermal printer 18:08 <@deen> last year edis had the cool action where you could colocate your rasperry pi for free 18:08 <@EastByte> there are still providers doing this for free I think 18:08 <@deen> cool 18:08 <@EastByte> but the location is not always promising 18:09 <@deen> i want edis in chile again, but they don't have free servers =/ 18:09 <@deen> they are so cheap, it's crazy 18:09 <@deen> but they used to shut down my server when it got 100 kbit/s incoming 18:09 <@deen> now i asked per mail and they say they don't know anything about that 18:13 <@EastByte> 100 kbit/s? 18:14 <@EastByte> is that even enough bandwidth for 2 players? 18:17 < KinG_> hey 18:17 < Sadale> EastByte, probably enough 18:17 < Sadale> EastByte, But not 3 18:46 < KinG_> Heavy ddos on persian 18:46 < KinG_> damn 18:51 < Sadale> KinG_, how do you guys deal with ddos? 18:51 < KinG_> just want to install a firewall now 18:51 < KinG_> nothing ^^ 18:56 <@deen> KinG_: firewall doesn't help against ddos 18:56 < KinG_> these noobs in iran dunno how to ddos 18:56 <@deen> not sure how often i have to tell you 18:56 < KinG_> they just send packets 18:56 <@deen> yes, but if your network gets deactivated, software firewall has 0 use 18:56 < KinG_> i can fix this against iranian attackers 18:56 < KinG_> but not real ddosers that attack ddnet 18:57 < KinG_> deen i'm gonna restart server 18:57 < KinG_> i can't reach it 19:11 <@EastByte> ^.^ 19:21 < KinG_> EastByte: i restarted server and why still game servers are not running and server isn't on ddnet.tw/status 19:21 < KinG_> ?! 19:21 < KinG_> ah nvm deen is bac 19:21 < KinG_> back* 19:21 <@deen> i fucked up a bit^^ 19:22 < KinG_> nvm shit happens :) 19:23 < KinG_> at least now ppl from iran can't flood port 80 ^^ 19:23 < KinG_> oh 19:23 < KinG_> my 19:23 < KinG_> GOD 19:23 < KinG_> csf takes this much ram?! 19:27 < KinG_> i'm glad that firewall stopped these noob iranian kids sending packets 20:44 <@deen> !ddnetpeak 20:44 < Nimda_6518> Current players on DDNet : 569 20:44 < Nimda_6518> Current DDNet peak : 810 users online at 2015-04-26 20:11:01 20:49 < Learath2> Savander: nice choice of music btw :) 21:12 < Learath2> gj Deutsche Telekom 21:15 <@deen> Learath2: always 21:15 <@deen> DDNet China was down for a few hours today, was a bit scared, but uptime stil shows 497 days :P 21:15 <@deen> emptiest server is the most stable one 21:17 < Savander> Learath2, in which? 21:30 < Learath2> deen: timeout protection bugged out i have two leareath2s here 21:31 <@deen> that's bad. i'm not sure why that sometimes happens 21:35 < Learath2> Any idea what is a easy map i can teach basic stuff on ? 21:37 < KinG_> basics by .me 21:38 < KinG_> Learath2: or probably 2easy 21:39 <@deen> Kobra 2 :P 21:39 <@deen> mainly because it's not faily 21:39 < Learath2> no way he is finishing a Kobra map 21:39 <@deen> I've seen total noobs finishing a kobra map within 2-3 days of practice :P 21:40 < Learath2> deen: there seems to be a bug when switching maps and having a dummy connected 21:40 <@deen> There's also 4Nubs 21:40 <@deen> Just2easy, GoldMine 21:40 <@deen> Learath2: what bug? 21:41 < Learath2> SIGSEGV 21:41 <@deen> ouch, reproducable? 21:41 <@deen> can you get it within gdb and client_debug version? 21:42 < Learath2> ill do it in a sec 21:42 < Learath2> it was on win64 21:42 < Learath2> both me and my friend experienced it 21:43 < KinG_> there is also a bug, sometimes hen i change to my dummy i can't hear sounds of hooking unhookable or hookable 21:43 < KinG_> when* 21:44 < Learath2> also there is a map called Easy 1 which isnt easy 21:46 < KinG_> Learath2: basics is the map u are looking for 21:47 < KinG_> or koule 23:14 <@deen> Savander: http://teeworlds.com.pl/ looks down 23:14 < Savander> o.O 23:14 < Savander> it's not my server 23:14 < Savander> weird 23:14 <@deen> oh, i thought so 23:14 < Savander> teeworlds.pl 23:14 < Savander> is mine 23:14 < Savander> teeworlds.com.pl - friend domain 23:14 <@deen> know any more polish TW websites? 23:15 < Savander> not really 23:15 < Savander> two "official" 23:15 < Savander> teeworlds.com.pl - since 2008 23:15 < Savander> and teeworlds.pl since 2008 too 23:15 < Learath2> savander that cheaty map speedrun music 23:15 <@deen> because I'm making a list^^ 23:15 < Savander> ohm 23:15 < Savander> :D 23:16 < Savander> https://www.facebook.com/teeworldspolska 23:17 < Savander> Learath2, thanks ;) 23:18 < Savander> music channels: https://www.youtube.com/user/NoCopyrightSounds 23:18 < Savander> https://www.youtube.com/c/TigerToothMusics 23:18 < Savander> https://www.youtube.com/user/MrSuicideSheep 23:18 < Savander> good place with nice music 23:22 <@deen> Anyone want to add mentions to ddnet in wikipedia's teeworlds articles?^^ 23:23 < Savander> Savander - God 23:23 <@deen> We should be the most played mod / biggest community by any way to count 23:23 <@deen> Oh, and there's a German Stupidedia article about ddnet^^ http://www.stupidedia.org/stupi/DDNet 23:24 < Savander> xd 23:29 <@deen> Some communities I found: http://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1804 23:38 < Savander> ^^>