12:09 < Nimda> Notice 1 by Avaron just released on Ddmax at 2015-07-02 12:00 12:09 < Nimda> Night Jungle by JeanneDark & Knight :3 just released on Ddmax at 2015-07-02 12:00 12:09 < Nimda> Next 2 by DiViNe just released on Ddmax at 2015-07-02 12:00 12:09 < Nimda> o_O by Tsin just released on Ddmax at 2015-07-02 12:00 12:09 < Nimda> Pandaland by Anqel just released on Ddmax at 2015-07-02 12:00 16:17 < o_be_one> hello folks :) 16:19 <@deen> hi 16:23 < o_be_one> deen> 5 € sent => 4.40 € received 16:23 < o_be_one> the tips you talk is to send directly to you, not via the button right ? 16:23 <@deen> right 16:24 < o_be_one> nice i'm able to read :D ! 16:24 <@deen> i think paypal is forced by law to offer a free way to send money in some countries 16:24 < o_be_one> deen: how many you "lost" in fee when we send directly ? 16:24 <@deen> and they only offer it in those countries 16:24 < o_be_one> i think fee was on my side, 0.10$ cad 16:24 <@deen> usa and germany afaik 16:25 < o_be_one> Canada to Canada it's free, but not to other country 16:25 <@deen> o_be_one: i got your full 10 CAD 16:25 <@deen> no fees 16:26 <@deen> except the fee to exchange it to euros of course 16:28 < o_be_one> ok thats nice, fee was on my side 16:28 < o_be_one> i pay 10.10$ ^^ 16:28 <@deen> ^^ 16:28 < o_be_one> Paypal tells me about that 16:28 <@deen> still betterthan what it costs to send something per bitcoin 16:28 < o_be_one> its not too much i think 16:33 < o_be_one> hey nice funding page :D ! 16:34 < o_be_one> woaw GER1 is too expansive, serious !!! :o 16:34 <@deen> 30 € / month? 16:34 <@deen> that's pretty cheap considering the ddos protection 16:34 < o_be_one> oh its for the year 16:35 < o_be_one> but xrothx was not sponsoring GER1, deen ? oO 16:35 <@deen> he was, but now he suddenly stopped 16:35 <@deen> i don't know why, the server may shut down any moment 16:35 <@deen> i told him to transfer it to my account but he hasn't 16:35 < o_be_one> oh >.< 16:36 < o_be_one> and i imagine you want to stay at ufo or i cant remember the name 16:37 <@deen> nfoservers, yeah 16:37 <@deen> haven't seen a better hoster yet 16:37 < o_be_one> yes they are well protected, just a little heavier ping 16:37 <@deen> higher ping? i don't think so 16:37 < o_be_one> but to be well-protected it's not a problem 16:38 < o_be_one> yes there is 10 to 20ms more than at ovh 16:38 <@deen> for you maybe 16:38 < o_be_one> it's easy to confirm that ^^ 16:38 <@deen> not for our players 16:38 < o_be_one> no for ger too 16:38 <@deen> nope 16:38 < o_be_one> we did the comparison with some ger players 16:38 <@deen> which ovh servers? 16:38 < o_be_one> (and i got some complaint about this) 16:38 < o_be_one> my french servers (remember i was the previous host of V3R ..) 16:39 <@deen> i tried all 3 ovh locations in europe, they all had worse ping for our players 16:39 < o_be_one> thats curious, we didn't seen the same, but i can imagine it can depends of players .. 16:40 < o_be_one> internap is great and have good peering, just maybe less peering than OVH ? I dont know if we can get the information 16:40 < o_be_one> but anyway, it's just to talk and understand ^^ 16:40 <@deen> only DTAG has problematic peering to internap, and that seems to be gone now as well 16:40 <@deen> players with good connections have ping < 10 on GER1 16:42 < o_be_one> really ? i must take a look ive never seen someone with less than 10ms ... kpro998 was with better ping on OVH, i was jalous of his ping on ovh servers :p 16:43 < o_be_one> and yes about Canada we got 30 more ms, i have 95ms on OVH servers, 125ms on NFO servers 16:44 <@deen> doesn't matter anyway, the ddos protection of OVH didn't work at all 16:44 < o_be_one> but it's maybe cause of peering agreement, OVH and Videotron made a good peering together 16:45 < o_be_one> yes it's true 16:45 <@deen> so you have better ping to ddnet.tw than ger.ddnet.tw? 16:45 <@deen> ddnet.tw is still at OVH 16:46 <@deen> our EUR test servers and website 16:47 < o_be_one> i'll try and tell you 16:47 < o_be_one> but my servers are at OVH too ^^ 16:49 < o_be_one> thats curious there is not much host at internap frankfurt Oo 16:50 <@deen> huh? 16:50 < o_be_one> i was looking for cheaper hosting than nfoservers at internap DC in frankfurt 16:51 < o_be_one> and thats curious there is not a better ping since internap is at Montreal tool Oo 16:51 <@deen> internap has a dc in frankfurt? 16:53 < o_be_one> nfoserver says "Frankfurt (InterNAP)" in hosting, but internap website say its at amsterdam or london, i cant see frankfurt 16:53 <@deen> right^ 16:53 <@deen> so they are at some other datacenter in frankfurt, but that's somehow connected to internap 16:54 < o_be_one> yeah maybe 16:54 <@deen> never figured out how that works exactly what they'r doing 16:54 < o_be_one> oh i was curious to know if the GER1 is running Linux or Windows ? Cause ive heard about Windows in the past 16:54 <@deen> we have linux everywhere 16:54 < o_be_one> ok 16:56 < o_be_one> did you know that Google Cloud has hosting in Belgium oO ? 17:06 <@deen> no, but then i never heard of Google Cloud either 17:08 < o_be_one> oh, its name Google Compute Engine, it's cloud solution 17:08 < o_be_one> sometime i think i must try to host on it, cause Google DDoS protection should be awesome ... Its 9$/month for the smallet vcore dedicated 17:45 < o_be_one> ok i took Google cloud to try, i'm really to curious x) 18:38 < o_be_one> 99ms to Google Cloud (same with OVH, not bad) 18:38 < o_be_one> (Google Cloud hosted in Europe) 19:36 < Learath2> TIL nim doesnt like a sequence to be modified while iterating over it 19:46 <@deen> right 19:49 < Learath2> deen: if you have time can you tell me whats the problem with this ? https://gist.github.com/3cd999eeae165813db79 19:58 < BeaR_> ddnet beer fund is raising (: 20:51 <@deen> Learath2: should be "num = num div i" 20:51 <@deen> div is for int division, / for float division 20:51 < eeeee> pascal ftw 20:51 <@deen> and res should be "res = 0'i64" 20:52 <@deen> BeaR_: beer fund or bear fund? :P 20:52 < BeaR_> :P 20:52 < BeaR_> is 0'i64 the same as 0.i64 ? 20:52 <@deen> Learath2: ah, i see you asked on #nim already^^ 20:53 <@deen> BeaR_: there is no 0.i64 in nim, but there's 0.int64 20:53 <@deen> and 0i64 works too 20:53 <@deen> the ' is optional 20:53 < BeaR_> lol 20:54 <@deen> 0i64 is a literal of int64 type, while 0.int64 is an int literal that's converted to int64 20:55 < BeaR_> hm makes sense 20:55 < BeaR_> still a bit confusing 20:55 <@deen> how so? 20:57 < BeaR_> more about consistency, would drop the 0i64 / 0'i64 20:57 <@deen> nono, that's necessary 20:58 < BeaR_> why? 20:58 <@deen> when you're on a 32bit system ints are int32, so an int literal could not express the numbers of an int64 literal 20:58 <@deen> at least i think so, haven't tried^^ 20:59 < Learath2> just noticed i need a way bigger prime list which i cant possibly generate with my code 20:59 < BeaR_> hm I thought int literals are handled as int64 intern if I remember correctly 20:59 < BeaR_> (but I don't really know anything about the nim compiler) 21:05 < BeaR_> https://github.com/super-massive-black-holes/AstroNimy ^^ 21:12 <@deen> BeaR_: not using units 21:12 <@deen> i should've fixed my units library: https://github.com/def-/nim-units 21:15 < Learath2> deen: does sequences have a way to look at the last element without removing it (peek) 21:17 <@deen> Learath2: x[^1]? 21:19 < Learath2> deen: thanks where would I find such stuff tho ? 21:19 <@deen> hopefully in the tutorial, otherwise add it please^^ 21:20 <@deen> it's pretty new 21:20 <@deen> http://nim-lang.org/docs/system.html#^,int 21:20 < Learath2> couldnt find it in neither the tut nor the manual 21:21 < BeaR_> eh