15:09 < Nimda> Excast 3 by Åmol just released on Moderate at 2015-04-30 15:06 16:31 < o_be_one> hi 16:31 <@deen> hi 16:33 < o_be_one> whatsup deen ? 16:37 <@deen> Nothing DDNet related I guess. I'm waiting for the Nim release so I can release my own software 16:53 < o_be_one> whats hot in the new nim release, deen ? 16:57 <@deen> http://nim-lang.org/0.11.0/news.html#Z2015-04-30-version-0-11-0-released (temporary site) 17:25 < o_be_one> oh theres many changes ! 17:39 <@deen> and released now! 18:59 < Nimda> Sacred Source by Themix just released on Moderate at 2015-04-30 18:56 22:07 <@deen> if anyone wants to take a look: https://github.com/def-/nimes 22:33 < shahan> hello 22:35 < shahan> i'm here to ask about dummies in ddnet 22:35 <@deen> shahan: hi 22:36 < shahan> Last year i'm far from teeworlds development, but few days ago I was looking through tw commits and ddrace new features 22:36 < shahan> (ddnet is now official ddrace maintainer, right?) 22:37 < shahan> so,I found this commit https://github.com/def-/ddnet/commit/62aa0117340359dd21ff7c83d4d6d9517b9eb241 22:37 <@deen> it's not officially called ddrace 22:37 <@deen> but the old ddrace has been unmaintained for quite some time 22:37 < shahan> i decided so only in case of ddrace.info redirects me to ddnet.tw 22:39 < shahan> @deen, anyways, I'm here about server side dummies in ddnet. Does ddnet alreay have it, or, are dummies in ddnet's future plans? 22:39 <@deen> we have dummies in our clients 22:39 <@deen> i mainly see them as a tool for testing maps, but players disagree 22:40 <@deen> so you'll see many players with their dummies on DDNet servers 22:52 < shahan> i'm thinking about merging iddrace to ddnet, if ddnet is not going to implement serverside dummies (even only for maptesting) 22:53 <@deen> Hmm, that's a difficult decision 22:53 <@deen> One of the reasons for client dummies was that we were just one small ddrace server of many back then 22:53 <@deen> so people could play with dummy everywhere 22:54 <@deen> But in our forum there is currently a huge thread about problems with a new dummy feature which are caused by network latency 22:54 <@deen> and the dummy in client always causes problems 22:54 <@deen> maybe it actually is time to get rid of it 22:54 < shahan> yeah, it requires a good internet connection 22:55 <@deen> it also makes the client source code sooo terrible 22:55 <@deen> if you get dummy into ddnet server, I'd like to try that out 22:55 <@deen> maybe you could also post in http://forum.ddnet.tw/ if you want to see what others think 22:56 < shahan> okay 22:56 < shahan> then I can try to implement dummies and make a pull request 22:57 < shahan> but only as a training/testing feature 22:57 < shahan> not for alone playing 22:57 <@deen> nono, also for playing alone 22:57 <@deen> people do that anyway with client dummies now 22:57 < shahan> it worse than masturbation :C 22:58 <@deen> we even have dummy maps 22:58 <@deen> where your partner is just frozen all the time 22:58 <@deen> and dummy tournaments with those 22:58 <@deen> With 810 tees online at the same time at the last one ;) http://ddnet.tw/stats/807.png 22:59 < shahan> yeah, I watched this tournament 23:00 <@deen> And here's some of the problems with client dummy: http://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1359 23:00 <@deen> eeeee: compiling Nim with SDL2 to Android was mindblowingly easy. I had to change main -> SDL_main and that's it. Now I just need to figure out how to load files on this thing 23:02 <@deen> the sdl2 people really did great work with emscripten and android support 23:03 < shahan> @deen: well, I'll continue discussion on ddnet forum. Thank you for quick reply and support :) Glad to see that you are open for suggestions ^^ 23:03 <@deen> now that I think about it, it just makes more sense to have dummy in server 23:11 < shahan> hm 23:11 < shahan> i'm trying to register 23:11 < shahan> but i can't answer the question 23:11 < shahan> What does TW stand for? 23:11 < fstd> >.> 23:11 <@deen> That's the hard question! 23:11 <@deen> Teeworlds 23:12 < fstd> TW obviously stands for simplicity and the KISS principle! 23:12 < Learath2> TwoWorlds 23:12 < shahan> )))))))))))0 23:12 < shahan> i thought about another meaning of 'stand for' 23:12 < shahan> something like 'mission of TW' 23:13 <@deen> "What does TW mean?" would be better? 23:13 < fstd> no, because obviously means Taiwan 23:13 <@deen> I wish I had a log of the attempted answers to those registration questions 23:36 <@deen> Ha, works! 23:36 <@deen> Totally laggy, but who cares?!