00:21 < eeeee> display lists are deprecated afaik. tw rendering code is even moar deprecated though.
00:25 <@heinrich5991> eeeee: display lists are deprecated?
00:25 <@heinrich5991> eeeee: what's the newest stuff?
00:29 < eeeee> i'm not a gl expert or anything, just read that on the internets
00:29 < eeeee> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4113989/why-were-display-lists-deprecated-in-opengl-3-1
00:30 < eeeee> heinrich5991: also have heard this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulkan_%28API%29 is the newest stuff
00:31 <@heinrich5991> yea heard about it
00:31 <@heinrich5991> give it 10 years and you might be able to use it
00:31 < eeeee> it'd be deprecated tho
00:31 < eeeee> :/
15:14 < shorefire> deen: I hope you take what I said into consideration, I say it only because I care.
15:32 <@deen> shorefire: I don't consider DDNet a single community and I don't think they should be subject to a single set of rules. There are many subcommunities of people who mainly play with each other. We could forbid insults for example, but some groups insult among each other (jokingly or not, no idea) and everyone in there is fine with that. Some basic rules are implicit though: No blocking, no insulting (only enfor
15:32 <@deen> ced on complaint), no botting. I like that people mostly get along with just voting, otherwise the few mods should be good enough (in Europe at least). For USA mods are needed indeed, but haven'T found any
15:44 < shorefire> I understand that and I can get behind that
15:44 < shorefire> but they are not enforced
15:45 < shorefire> Very very rarely are those few basic ruls ever enforced
15:45 < shorefire> (I'm currently watching Skeith troll for the past 2 hours in ddnet usa, with Broken just watching doing nothing, after multiple complaints :/)
15:46 < shorefire> I suppose finding some more moderators would be a good start
18:37 < eeeee> i've also been watching this shorefire troll for the pas few hours on irc
18:38 < eeeee> messaging #ddnet even though he hates it
18:38 < eeeee> and all the ops in the channel were just doing nothing!
18:48 < shorefire> Real mature
18:49 < shorefire> Can't even have a normal conversasion no?
18:51 < eeeee> i had a normal conversasion once. it was horrible.
19:03 < shorefire> hope your ok
19:04 < shorefire> sounds awful
19:09 < fstd> what's with his ok?
19:17 < shorefire> what
19:19 < fstd> huh?
19:20 < shorefire> ok
19:20 < fstd> yes
19:20 < shorefire> good talk
19:21 < fstd> right on
19:48 < Spyker> hey!!
19:48 < Spyker> deen, new video!
19:48 < Spyker> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g85QXkoVgI
19:48 < Nimda> [YouTube] Title: Teeworlds InVirus 1 | Rating: 5.00/5.00 | Views: 109
19:49 < Spyker> can you put it on ddnet start page?
20:08 < Spyker> someone online?
20:29 < ochristi_> deen are not all players who finished at the start of the score board?
20:29 <@deen> what?
20:30 < ochristi> score board ingame, when you hold tab
20:30 <@deen> there's a problem with high times
20:30 < ochristi> haha right ;)
20:30 < ochristi> thats the problem
20:35 < ochristi> deen:  GER RAM
20:35 < ochristi> + high ping atm
20:37 <@deen> hm?
20:38 < ochristi> hmm there was just a broadcast "sorry for the high pings" :o
20:38 <@deen> Yes, because you say you have high ping :P
20:39 < ochristi> lot of peole have
20:39 <@deen> well, on my server they wrote "only you have high ping deen"
20:40 < ochristi> not everyone seems affected, prolly some networking foo
20:41 < ochristi> high ping at some hops around gtt.net
20:41 <@deen> yeah, should be resolved soon (i hope)
20:41 <@deen> nothing i can do
20:41 <@deen> at least the daily deutsche telekom lags are gone for a few months now
20:42 < ochristi> meh
20:42 < ochristi> thats true
20:42 <@deen> ah well
20:42 <@deen> this is another Deutsche Telekom issue
20:42 <@deen> I know the ip that's causing the high ping, haha
20:42 <@deen> it's a telekom server
20:43 < ochristi> oh you are right
20:43 <@deen> You can even google for the ip and find it causing lags for years
20:43 <@deen> http://www.heise.de/netze/meldung/Online-Gamer-klagen-ueber-Stoerung-im-Telekom-Netz-1762506.html
20:43 <@deen> https://telekomhilft.telekom.de/t5/Frage-stellen/PING-unakzeptabel-hoch/qaq-p/74784/search-sort-type-order/date
20:43 <@deen> and so on
20:43 < ochristi> exactly this
20:48 <@deen> the telekom thread is cool: 2155 posts for 3 years now
20:59 < ochristi> ok ping is back to normal I think
21:03 <@deen> same