00:50 <+Nimda> DDNet CHN went down! 00:51 <+Nimda> DDNet CHN went back online! 01:21 <@deen> hi Anqel 01:21 < Anqel> Hey deen 01:21 < Anqel> I need some help 01:22 <@deen> yes? 01:23 < Anqel> Hm you know something about msdcsc? 01:23 <@deen> never heard 01:24 < Anqel> shit 01:24 < Anqel> So google says it's a virus which stays on your computer, changes registry etc and even one year it's doing nothing. 01:24 < Anqel> I just found it on my pc -.-! And i can't delete or stop it. It allways install itselfes again 01:26 < Anqel> I tried 4 Antivirus programs, I tried to delete it with my cmd, but nothing worked, or it says wrong parameterformat idk 01:27 <@deen> generally the right solution is to reinstall everything, but i guess you don't want to do that 01:28 < Anqel> Right ? >.< 01:28 < Anqel> I even don't know how to haha 01:29 <@deen> anyone else have an idea? I'm not a Windows guy 01:32 < Anqel> Does not seems so 01:32 <@deen> They're all sleeping 01:36 < Anqel> think so too 01:42 < Anqel> Okay i'm trying it with a 5th antimalware programm. >.< 01:45 <+eeeee> keep in mind that most "antimalware" programs you find on the internets actually install even more malware 01:45 <+eeeee> only use products from well-known developers 01:45 <+eeeee> Anqel: e.g. "Microsoft Security Essentials" did you try it? 01:46 <+eeeee> i think it's free if you own a legit copy of windows and should be one of the best antiviruses 01:47 < Anqel> There's the problem >< 01:48 < Anqel> I'm not sure, but i think this computer has no legit windows. idk 01:48 <+eeeee> in that case you should try "cureit", "avg", "avast", "avira" 01:49 <+eeeee> all of those are free 01:49 < Anqel> Okay i will look. Avira i have allready on my computer but it didnt found the msdcsc avast i tried. found nothing too 01:50 < Anqel> Im trying "Malwarebytes Anti-Malware" at the moment. It actually found 16 objects. 01:50 < Anqel> Most with this msdcsc.exe 01:50 < Anqel> Oh. i need to change. it found 25 .. 01:53 < Anqel> 319 .... wtf 02:03 < Anqel> Someone of you know a cmd command to delete files maybe= 02:05 <@deen> del? 02:06 <@deen> this site has some kind of guide, but doesn't look very serious: https://sites.google.com/site/arinerronurl/other/how-to-delete-msdcsc-exe-manually 02:07 < Anqel> I was on that site and tried the command. doesnt work 02:08 < Anqel> Ah used wrong letters but ehm. It asked me, rly delete? J/N? i type J, he wrote me; acces denied 02:09 <@deen> you have to run cmd as administrator probably 02:11 < Anqel> i tried it again as administrator now. access denied again 02:11 < Anqel> määääääääääääääh :( i'll try "cureit" now. eeeese wrote it 02:13 <+eeeee> you can tell the antivirus to scan that specific folder 02:13 <+eeeee> C:\Users\Your username here\AppData\Local\Temp\MSDCSC 02:13 <+eeeee> maybe antivirus will be able to delete the file 02:15 < Anqel> Ah okay. I just started a totall scan. But it found this msdcsc.exe. it will take a bit till its at the end and i hope i can delete it finally. and then i need to look what it changed and change it back and wtf.. i will die ;D 02:36 < Anqel> pc restart. brb 02:37 <@deen> I'm going to sleep, good night 02:56 <+eeeee> deen: i've had several back and forths with vpsflare sales but failed to extract any useful info so far 02:58 <+eeeee> deen: the latest exchange was like ME: can i whitelist only certain ips on your cisco AMA firewall and drop traffic from other apis? THEY: yes, we do that automatically for all the ips! 03:00 <+eeeee> s/apis/ips 03:04 < Anqel> eeeee - what was the name of antivir program i downlaoded last? 03:14 <+eeeee> cureit 03:14 <+eeeee> ? 03:16 < Anqel> okay thanks 03:23 < Anqel> So this programm was successfull i guess. I can't find this .exe anywhere, i made a new scan and it found 0 infected datas. So thanks for your help and i hope it's gone now 05:05 <+Nimda> DDNet Chile went down! 05:06 <+Nimda> DDNet Chile went back online! 09:37 <+Nimda> DDNet RUS went down! 09:43 <+Nimda> DDNet RUS went back online! 10:29 <@deen> eeeee: sounds bad 10:29 <@deen> thanks for trying 10:32 < laxadedi> test 10:32 <@deen> hi laxadedi 10:32 < laxadedi> hi 10:39 < hannibal> hi :p 10:42 < hannibal> no party here? 10:42 < hannibal> i bet you are all playing tw :oooooo 10:42 <+cris272> hi hannibal 10:43 <@deen> hannibal: good morning 10:43 < hannibal> oh i see :) hi! 10:44 < hannibal> i'm at work. so i thought i can at least talk about tw if i can^t play :D 10:44 < hannibal> < heavily addicted. 10:49 <@deen> yo udon't have ddnet client for android? 10:50 < hannibal> i own a iphone 10:51 <@deen> ok, too bad 10:51 < hannibal> :D 10:52 < hannibal> maybe it's for the best. if you'd ask my boss .. :p 10:52 < hannibal> btw did you get hi_leutes message yesterday? i think we saw one of the ddoser 10:52 < pause> Hello ! 10:52 < hannibal> hi pause! 11:20 < hannibal> thursday........ friday....... -> WEEKEND. :D 11:20 < hannibal> <3 11:31 < pause> hannibal: Lol, tired of work ? =D 11:33 < hannibal> oh, just a little bit :D 11:33 < hannibal> i don't want to complain. i like my work. 11:36 < pause> hannibal: Same here 11:37 < pause> But we all know doing nothing is better than working most of the times =P 11:43 < hannibal> :D 11:43 < hannibal> yes, and i always wanted to check out this irc-channel 11:43 < hannibal> irc is so classic :D 11:46 <@deen> hi Wohoo 11:46 < Wohoo> hi deen 11:46 < Wohoo> can you help me? i'm looking for a very short map, to test start line and finish line, without race a whole map 11:47 <@deen> just make a start line and finish line on a new map in editor? 11:47 <@deen> or do you want to test on ddnet? 11:47 <@deen> on ddnet you can do Flappy Bird on solo, you get a finish for going beyond the first pipe 11:48 < Wohoo> i want to test offline, but need also to test teams 11:48 < Wohoo> so i'll try editor 11:49 < Wohoo> i've to learn how to use :( 11:49 <@deen> http://ddnet.tw/A.map 11:50 <@deen> something like this should work 11:50 < Wohoo> thank 11:51 < Wohoo> what do you prefer about console chat? "'%s' killed whole team beacuse of lock." or "Whole team was killed by '%s' beacuse of lock" 11:51 <@deen> 2nd 11:51 < Wohoo> spoiler of next commit :) 11:51 <@deen> but maybe "Your team" 11:52 < laxadedi> "Your team was killed by %s cause your team was locked" 11:52 < laxadedi> -cause+becuase 11:52 < Wohoo> yes, i'd like to read nick at begin maybe 11:52 < Wohoo> but ok :) 11:52 < laxadedi> but listen to deen 11:52 <@heinrich5991> lock? 11:52 <@deen> heinrich5991: /lock 11:52 < laxadedi> heinrich5991: you can /lock a team 11:53 <@heinrich5991> and then? 11:53 < laxadedi> wich means : no one can join it anymore 11:53 < laxadedi> and if you kill, you respawn in the same team 11:53 <@heinrich5991> why is the whole team killed? 11:53 < laxadedi> it's the way /lock works 11:53 <@heinrich5991> ok 11:53 <@deen> to restart in team 11:53 <@deen> it's for speedrunners who try a map many times 11:53 <@deen> so they don't have to rejoin team every time 11:54 <@heinrich5991> (my idea for this was: don't kill the whole team, if the whole team kills itself, stop the time) 11:54 <@deen> but then you could cheat 11:54 <@heinrich5991> not more than usual 11:54 <@deen> activating switches at the start and stuff like that 11:54 <@heinrich5991> if the whole team kills, stop the time, reset t he world 11:55 < Wohoo> and for console? 11:55 < Wohoo> "Team %d killed by '%s' because of lock." 11:55 <@heinrich5991> restart, team=%d cid=%d name='%s' 11:55 <@heinrich5991> :) 11:56 < Wohoo> Cid and name of TeamKiller? 11:57 <@heinrich5991> yes 11:58 < hannibal> because of lock does not sound good. use laxadedis version :p 11:58 < hannibal> because your team was locked. 11:59 <@heinrich5991> wrong tense though 11:59 <@heinrich5991> oh wait 11:59 <@heinrich5991> mh 11:59 < Wohoo> "You killed whole team because it was locked" is ok for personal message? 11:59 <@heinrich5991> your team was killed because it is locked – your team was killed because it has been locked – your team was killed because it was locked 11:59 < hannibal> "the" whole team 12:00 <@heinrich5991> what's the correct tense here? 12:00 < hannibal> hm. 2 and 3 are both k i think 12:00 < Wohoo> You killed whole team because it has been locked 12:00 < Wohoo> maybe 12:01 < laxadedi> I would say the 3 are different and correct :D 12:01 <@heinrich5991> I think: "was locked" implies that it's not locked anymore 12:01 < hannibal> true. 12:01 < hannibal> well 12:01 < hannibal> actually 12:01 < hannibal> 1 is correct then 12:01 < laxadedi> Your team was killed by %s cause it is locked 12:01 < laxadedi> seems good 12:02 < laxadedi> Rah 12:02 < laxadedi> because :) 12:02 < hannibal> we could find a nicer word for killed 12:02 < laxadedi> Wut ? 12:02 < hannibal> can't think of one. 12:02 < laxadedi> It's called like that in the game, no need/reason to change it. 12:02 < Wohoo> can i start an offline server? 12:03 < hannibal> lan server? 12:03 < Wohoo> sorry, too many questions :) 12:03 < Wohoo> yes, solo machine server :D 12:03 <@deen> yes, just run the DDNet-Server 12:03 < Wohoo> without send heartbeat to teeworlds.come 12:03 < Wohoo> .com 12:03 <@deen> set sv_register 0 in autoexec.cfg 12:03 < laxadedi> sv_registe r0 then 12:04 < hannibal> deen. is it complicated to integrate the vote-thing in a server? 12:04 <@deen> hat vote thing? 12:04 <@deen> what* 12:04 < hannibal> uhm if i have like 3 maps on my server 12:04 < hannibal> i don't know how to change it 12:04 < hannibal> so i'd like to vote them 12:05 <@deen> make entries for them with add_vote in your config? 12:05 < laxadedi> Going to get something to eat, brb :) 12:05 < hannibal> add_vote mapname? in the cfg ? 12:06 <@deen> https://github.com/def-/ddnet-maps/blob/master/novice/votes.cfg 12:06 < hannibal> oh so easy 12:06 < hannibal> thanks a lot. 12:07 < hannibal> woot you moved simpleplay to novice 12:08 < Wohoo> i write final version of all five sentences i need 12:08 < Wohoo> "restart, team=%d cid=%d name='%s'" 12:08 < Wohoo> "You killed whole team because it has been locked" 12:08 <@heinrich5991> take "is" I think 12:09 < hannibal> and "the" whole team. 12:09 < Wohoo> "Your team was killed by %s because team was locked" 12:09 <@heinrich5991> "You killed the whole team because it is locked." 12:09 <@heinrich5991> "Your team was killed by '%s' because the team is locked." 12:09 < hannibal> "Whole team was killed because it is locked" 12:09 < hannibal> :D 12:09 < hannibal> whatever. 12:09 < Wohoo> done 12:10 < Wohoo> You are back to team 0. 12:10 < Wohoo> not hard this :D 12:10 <@heinrich5991> =) 12:10 < Wohoo> '%s' died and joined team 0. 12:10 < hannibal> xx joined team 0 12:10 < Wohoo> this is tricky 12:10 < hannibal> :D 12:10 < Wohoo> because don't know if died or suicided or whatelse 12:11 < Wohoo> just " xx joined team 0 " ? 12:15 < Wohoo> there was also a bug 12:15 < Wohoo> in team.cpp 12:16 < hannibal> so i'll go to eat 12:16 < hannibal> cu! :D 12:16 < Wohoo> when first in team died, kill everyone in same team, but them kill again everyone of the same team (beacuse of recursive func) 12:25 <@deen> Wohoo: i've never seen that happen. how to trigger it? 12:26 < Wohoo> because was: 12:26 < Wohoo> OnCharacterDeath() 12:26 < Wohoo> { 12:26 < Wohoo> ... 12:26 < Wohoo> if(team_open) 12:26 < Wohoo> kill_every_one 12:26 < Wohoo> then team != open 12:27 < Wohoo> but kill_every_one will call again OnCharacterDeath() 12:28 < Wohoo> just switch istruction is the way, 12:28 < Wohoo> team != open i mean set_team= !open 12:29 < Wohoo> server kills everyone multiple time at full speed, is impossible to see :) 12:38 < Wohoo> hint for title of commit? 12:38 < Wohoo> "Chat information to teammate" 12:39 < laxadedi> http://www.ebay.com/itm/221564569633#viTabs_0 12:43 < Wohoo> wow 12:43 < Nimda> DDNet RUS went down! 12:44 < Nimda> DDNet RUS went back online! 12:48 < laxadedi> question : if I am going to compile + install irssi from sources, should I remove the package first ? 12:49 <@EastByte> depends on where you install it from source 12:49 <@EastByte> I would remove the package 12:49 < laxadedi> ok 12:50 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] Wohoo-GC opened pull request #60: Teammate switching team reported on chat (DDRace64...DDRace64) http://git.io/VCMpFQ 12:51 < Wohoo> yeah :) 13:09 < hannibal> back :D 13:19 <@heinrich5991> laxadedi: OS? 13:30 < Wohoo> do you know who is developing zcatch server mod??? 13:30 <@EastByte> Teetime or Teelevision 13:30 <@EastByte> not sure 13:32 <@deen> the one I'm running is by Teetime 13:32 < hannibal> called teevision 13:32 <@deen> https://github.com/Teetime/teeworlds/tree/zCatch 13:41 < Wohoo> deen: who is developing it? 13:48 <@deen> Teetime 13:55 <+ochristi> that "kill protection" is annoying :( 13:55 < hannibal> no it's not! 13:55 < hannibal> saved my life 2 times now - more than worth it. 13:57 <@deen> at most you have to type /kill every 20 minutes 13:58 < Wohoo> kill protection is client side and works with time, right? 13:58 <@deen> server side 13:58 <+ochristi> but it seems inconsitent across servers 13:58 <@deen> tyes, activates after 20 minutes game time 13:58 <@deen> should be consistent 13:58 <+ochristi> ah ok 13:58 < Wohoo> what do it detect? block kill command? 13:59 <@deen> yes 13:59 <@deen> so you have to type /kill instead 13:59 < Wohoo> so if i bind k say /kill, it is useless 13:59 <@deen> your own fault :P 13:59 < Wohoo> ok :D 14:00 < Wohoo> i want to do same commit for zcatch, when team leader release one, all in team should know 14:01 < Wohoo> i'm trying to figure out with lists :) 14:01 < Wohoo> deen: why do you use vectors in ddnet? 14:01 <@deen> i don't know 14:02 <@deen> i didn't write that 14:17 < pause> Wohoo: Why not ? vectors are nice people too ! 14:20 <@heinrich5991> because teeworlds avoids the stdlib 14:20 <@heinrich5991> there's a vector type in teeworlds already, it's called list IIRC 14:24 < Wohoo> vectors fill useless your memory because must be greater than needed, and in this case, every time you want to find a client, you have to check whole vector (up to 64) also if only two clients are connected 14:29 <@deen> you can clean it up of course 14:29 <@deen> but if you want more performance profile it before please 14:29 <@deen> I'd be more interested in reducing the memory of ddnet server 14:29 <@deen> after a few days it takes a lot, but doesn't grow anymore 14:29 <@deen> so there is no memory leak, but something just takes some time to fill up and never gets cleaned again 14:30 <@heinrich5991> deen: how much? 14:31 <@deen> about 60 MB, but on some servers it grows to 100 MB 14:36 <@deen> i wanted to profile the memory, but can't reproduce it on home server 14:36 <@deen> and profiled server lags too much to be playable 14:43 < Wohoo> i think i can take a look 14:43 < Wohoo> however now i go 14:43 < Wohoo> bb all :) 14:46 < pause> Well you can preallocate vectors to some size 14:46 < pause> Also, with that logic you shouldn't use malloc() :P 14:46 < hannibal> god that tech talk in here :D 14:47 <+o_be_one> sup' ! 14:47 < pause> And if you want to find a client, time to use an std:unordered_map ! 14:47 <+o_be_one> whats new about ddos ? 14:47 < pause> o_be_one: I'm wondering too 14:47 < pause> deen: Any news about that ? Still calm ? Did we won ? 14:47 < hannibal> what happened 14:48 <@heinrich5991> pause: you shouldn't use malloc. most of the time 14:48 <@deen> yesterday BlackLine attacked a bit, but nothing too bad 14:48 <@deen> nothing since then 14:48 < hannibal> but 14:48 <@heinrich5991> pause: unordered map to find a client? when do you need this? 14:48 < hannibal> did you see the screen 14:48 <+o_be_one> maybe vali fears now ? 14:48 < hannibal> "khaz" 14:48 <@deen> yes 14:48 <@deen> khaz is BlackLine 14:48 < hannibal> was also one of the ddos people 14:48 < hannibal> ah 14:49 < pause> heinrich5991: I don't know, but he said something about having to traverse a vector to find a client 14:49 < pause> If that's the case, you're just using the wrong container =D 14:49 <+o_be_one> ok i can start again all my servers so ^^ 14:49 < pause> heinrich5991: And you use new instead, but it uses malloc itself =P 14:49 <@heinrich5991> or you pass around the wrong identifcation 14:50 <+o_be_one> xrothx got all my players, fucking shit >.< 14:50 <@heinrich5991> pause: (technical details: new might actually not use malloc.) you shouldn't use heap allocation (including malloc, new, vectors, hashmaps, etc.) most of the time 14:50 <@heinrich5991> they contribute to unpredictable performance 14:51 < pause> Well, sometimes you don't have the choice, but true, using "static" memory is better 14:52 <@heinrich5991> yes, more predictable 14:52 <@heinrich5991> just a pointer bump, if on the stack 14:52 < pause> Well, the stack isn't infinite either, and if you run out of it it wont return nullptr =D 14:53 < pause> I think evaluating how much stack space your program needs is hard, too 14:54 < pause> On the plus side, writing a program without dynamic allocation is rewarding it itself, i remember it being a challenge back in school =P 14:55 <@heinrich5991> malloc() doesn't return nullptr in out-of-memory situations either (on some systems) 14:58 < pause> heinrich5991: Really ? That must suck :-) 14:59 < pause> Never encountered that, is it happening on some weird embedded environements ? 14:59 <@heinrich5991> depends whether you count "linux" as "weird embedded environment" :) 14:59 <@heinrich5991> s/depends/depends on/ 15:00 < pause> heinrich5991: What, linux is doing that ? 15:00 < pause> You mean, OOM killer ? 15:00 <@heinrich5991> on linux with default settings 15:00 <@heinrich5991> malloc will never return nullptr 15:00 <@heinrich5991> first it happily overcommits a lot 15:00 <@heinrich5991> (i.e. giving more memory to applications than it has) 15:01 < pause> And when it page faults too much, time to kill stuff 15:01 <@heinrich5991> then if the applications actually use it, and use to much, the OOM killer kicks in 15:12 < hannibal> time flies <3 15:12 already 15:12 < hannibal> 2 hours and 8 hours and i'm done for the week xd 15:14 <@heinrich5991> 2 hours and 8 minutes? 15:18 < pause> i think he means, end of the day + tomorrow 15:37 < hannibal> correct 15:37 < hannibal> 2 hours today 15:37 < hannibal> 8 tomorrow 15:37 < hannibal> :) 15:37 < Qss> will ddnet go down? 15:38 <@deen> Qss: why? 15:38 < Qss> because of the recent ddos attacks 15:38 <@deen> We'll try to keep it running 15:40 < hannibal> if you need anything, tell us. i will try to set up a paypal account to use the donate option. 15:41 < hannibal> i'll be swimming in money from the 25th of this month on. 15:41 <@heinrich5991> paypal collects a nontrivial amount of the transactions 15:41 <@deen> there is no donation anymore 15:41 <@deen> heinrich5991: since a few weeks ago you can send money for free in paypal germany 15:41 <@deen> with 0 fees 15:41 <@heinrich5991> to friends 15:41 <@deen> yes 15:42 <@heinrich5991> I doubt that this counts as "to friends" 15:43 < pause> deen: Why did you stop donations ? 15:43 <+o_be_one> all r0x.fr TW is up again 15:43 < laxadedi> fuck my life, I have to compile gcc last version just to compile fucking rtorrent 15:43 <+o_be_one> with a new host 15:43 < laxadedi> pause: he even gave me back my donation I made like 1 month ago :p 15:43 <+o_be_one> laxadedi, torrent is mad <3 ! Why not Transmission ? 15:43 <@deen> because the servers aren't running properly. feels weird to accept donations when people can't even play on ddnet 15:43 < laxadedi> deen: I donated for server costs 15:43 < laxadedi> not for teeworlds servers 15:44 <+o_be_one> a,d i have many space on my 3 TW hosts ... already told >.< 15:44 <+o_be_one> all hosted in France with good ddos protection. 15:45 < hannibal> paypal for free 15:45 < hannibal> wait how do they make money. 15:45 < hannibal> ah only to friends, i should read on before i write :D 15:45 <@heinrich5991> paypal for free "friend to friend" 15:45 <@heinrich5991> that's just a marketing technique to "trick" more people into using paypal 15:46 < hannibal> just like the phone contracts with 5 free numbers 15:47 < hannibal> okay. so we can't donate 15:47 < hannibal> is there anything else 15:49 <@deen> testing, development, finding good ddos protected servers 15:49 <@deen> helping noobs on servers 15:49 <+o_be_one> hey yep there is no donation button on ddnet ? :o 15:49 < laxadedi> not anymore as deen said 15:50 <+o_be_one> how do you pay deen oO ? 15:50 <@deen> by myself 15:50 <+o_be_one> how much :o ? 15:50 < hannibal> i lack know-how to help developing & finding ddos protected servers. but i gladly help noobs and .. test? 15:51 <@deen> about 65 € per month 15:51 <+o_be_one> oh, thats not too much 15:51 <+o_be_one> where chile servers are hosted ? 15:51 <@deen> http://www.rackeo.cl/ 15:52 <@deen> they're the most expensive ones 15:56 < hannibal> which ddos protection are you using right now 15:56 <@deen> OVH (kimsufi) on FRA, reg.ru on RUS 15:56 <+o_be_one> deen, ok seen it, virtualization ? 15:56 <@deen> yes 15:56 <@deen> the one with 600 GB traffic 15:57 <@deen> which is barely enough 15:57 < hannibal> i see numbers. would this protection be enough: can defend against larger attacks of 5Gbps or 5 Million PPS and more. 15:57 < hannibal> ? 15:58 <@deen> no 16:00 <+o_be_one> deen why you dont accept other host than yours ? 16:00 <@deen> i do 16:00 <@deen> USA, CHN, South Africa and Persian run on other people's servers 16:01 <@deen> o_be_one: i don't know if i understand what you offer 16:01 <@deen> i thought you wanted me to host block servers on your server? 16:01 <@deen> and you get ddosed as well i thought 16:03 <+o_be_one> deen, you dont understand, only this week ddos wins, but never before, just cause these ddos was very powerfull ... 16:04 <@deen> yes, same with FRA 16:04 <@deen> so i could host FRA on your server? 16:04 <+o_be_one> nop they got down every days, not mine ... 16:04 <+o_be_one> you have the basic ddos protection from ovh 16:05 <+o_be_one> ive the pro ddos protection from ovh ... 16:08 <@deen> and it's always problematic to host on other people's servers 16:08 <@deen> they always want something special, or just change stuff without asking me 16:09 <@deen> or shut down the servers without warning, or give away rcon password 16:09 <+o_be_one> really ? what they want ? 16:09 <@deen> cheats on ddnet^^ 16:09 <+o_be_one> ok you work with kids i think ... 16:09 <@deen> yes, of course 16:10 <+o_be_one> at r0x.fr sometime we give hosting to players which have a great project to do and to offer to our community, sometime we help other projects too by offering our experiences, community or our stuffs 16:10 <+o_be_one> its the r0x.fr mind, 5 years old ! 16:10 < hannibal> sounds nice. 16:10 < hannibal> btw i was wondering once 16:11 < hannibal> is it possible to ban a specific client? 16:11 <+Learath2> hannibal: nah 16:11 < hannibal> k 16:11 <@deen> because Meskalin is spreading his ddrace bot client? 16:11 < hannibal> yes 16:11 <+Learath2> well i did have a patch for banning h-client and n-client 16:11 <@deen> so much for all the promises of not spreading it 16:12 < laxadedi> Meskalin made the zclient ? Or it's another client ? 16:12 < laxadedi> I thought zclient was made by Monsta and Tobii 16:12 < hannibal> when players with h-client or something like that leave a server it says which client they have 16:12 <+Learath2> but dont think a bot would send identifying packets when joining 16:12 < hannibal> so i thought the server knows it 16:12 <+Learath2> Quit message is sent by client 16:12 <+o_be_one> hannibal, i want to ban Fallen client, 13x37 client, vbot ... 16:12 < hannibal> ah 16:12 <@deen> the server knows the ddnet client version, but just because the client tells it 16:13 <+o_be_one> but these are made to "cheat" so you'll never be able to ban them :/ they can copy all they want ... 16:13 < hannibal> yes, i get it now, allright. it's sad 16:13 <@deen> it's not for banning clients, but for adding new non-backwards compatible features into the client 16:13 < hannibal> stupid bots really. 16:13 <+o_be_one> what the ddrace bot client does Oo 16:13 <@deen> it levitates in the air 16:13 <@deen> by hooking faster than you can see 16:13 < laxadedi> aimbot + movement bot 16:13 <+o_be_one> oh ive seen it on my blockers ! 16:13 < hannibal> yes, it hooks the ceiling very fast that it seems you are standing still in the air. 16:13 <+o_be_one> what is this client with hookfly :D ? 16:14 <+o_be_one> hannibal, named hookfly feature ;) 16:14 <+Tobii> in zclient we disabled fly on all ddnet servers 16:14 < laxadedi> deen: some players could argue that ddnet is a cheat client cause of the showhookcoll :) 16:14 < hannibal> some players are doing that, yes :D 16:14 <+o_be_one> Tobii, you are the owner of zclient ? think you was the first ive seen with hookfly 16:14 <@deen> Tobii: i know, but that's easy to disable and people just write the code themselves after they see it 16:14 <@deen> HMH had hookfly earlier 16:14 <+Learath2> deen: how can a client hook so fast that you cant see iirc there was a limit 16:15 <@deen> he didn't spread it, but others coded the same and even improved it 16:15 <@deen> Learath2: apparently not! there's a limit for shooting 16:15 <@deen> but not for hooking 16:15 <+Learath2> oh yes thats for shooting 16:15 <+Learath2> could prolly enforce the same limit to hooking 16:15 < laxadedi> yup 16:16 < laxadedi> that would probably break the bot client 16:16 <@deen> for soem time 16:16 < laxadedi> and human can't hook that fast anyway 16:16 <+Tobii> deen: i think everyone who can bypass it could also make the bot himself 16:16 <@deen> Tobii: yes, but they would never have gotten the idea :P 16:16 <@deen> i told HMH not to show it anyone, but it was too late 16:17 <+Learath2> could prolly ban levitating by checking !grounded and same position for long time 16:17 <+Tobii> i had an idea like this before but never tried to do it^^ 16:17 <@deen> o_be_one: ah, and i don't even want FRA. i just want a server with good ping and ddos protection in GER 16:17 <@deen> FRA is just because GER was always attacked 16:17 <+o_be_one> ok 16:19 <+o_be_one> !ddnetpeak 16:19 < Nimda> Current players on DDNet : 245 16:19 < Nimda> Current DDNet peak : 532 users online at 2014-09-28 20:14:41 16:20 < hannibal> all time peak? 16:21 <@deen> yes 16:21 < laxadedi> yup it is 16:21 < hannibal> what was that 16:21 < hannibal> kobra 3? 16:21 < laxadedi> yes 16:21 <@deen> http://ddnet.tw/532.png 16:21 < laxadedi> !peak 16:21 < Nimda> Current channel peak for #ddnet: 26 users online at 2014-10-07 22:44:23 (1 day, 17 hours, 37 minutes and 5 seconds ago) 16:21 < laxadedi> !twp hannibal 16:21 < Nimda> No hannibal found online. 16:21 < laxadedi> just do !help 16:21 < laxadedi> and have fun 16:21 < laxadedi> bot hosted by me :p 16:21 < hannibal> !help 16:22 <+o_be_one> Tobii, where to dl your client ? 16:22 < hannibal> *fun* 16:22 <+Tobii> there is no public download yet (i think xD) 16:22 < hannibal> i always thought that i started playing when 16:22 < laxadedi> well, depending on what you do, it has some really usefull features if you always have an IRC window open 16:22 < hannibal> teeworlds already saw it's peak as a game. 16:22 <+o_be_one> Tobii, how so i cant try hookfly ? :( 16:23 < hannibal> but if DDNet is at it's biggest atm, i started just at the right time :D 16:24 <+o_be_one> ddnet is just "the one" about ddrace servers, and deen is a good community leader, so its easy to want to be involved in this project. 16:24 <+o_be_one> Tobii, watching video of you client ... seems to be good ! 16:24 < hannibal> oh i know that there is ddracemax as well, and ddforce 16:24 <@deen> hannibal: ddmax is down 16:24 < hannibal> for good? 16:24 <@deen> because of the attacks 16:24 <+o_be_one> the only one i see quality and played is ddnet x) 16:25 <+Tobii> o_be_one: its probably the old version monsta made 16:25 <@deen> tsin will try to get it back for next year or something 16:25 <+o_be_one> Tobii, 2014 09 14 ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR385p25vBY 16:25 < Nimda> [YouTube] Title: zClient (Best Teeworlds Client ever!?) | Rating: 2.60/5.00 | Views: 111 16:25 < hannibal> there was a map on ddmax 16:25 < hannibal> pale 16:25 < hannibal> i think? 16:25 < hannibal> u may want to add it to ddnet :D it's novice and very good. 16:26 <@deen> make a thread in the forum 16:26 <@deen> testers will decide 16:27 < hannibal> yes, yes, just came to mind. 16:27 < hannibal> i tend to forget such things :D 16:27 <@deen> and you could try to find the mapper of the map 16:27 <@deen> and ask them if we may host it 16:30 <+o_be_one> Tobii, any way to try zClient ? 16:32 < laxadedi> this fucking shit will go public one day or another, and then it's over 16:32 < laxadedi> everyone will finish Fly to the legends 2 16:32 <@deen> laxadedi: it's over 16:32 <@deen> it's public already 16:32 <@deen> meskalin sent it to 30 people on skype 16:32 < laxadedi> there is no public link yet 16:33 <@deen> screaming around about something 16:33 < laxadedi> but 16:33 < laxadedi> meskalin made zclient ? 16:34 <@deen> i think they explained to me who made what, but i forgot 16:35 < hannibal> and there really is no way to stop them . 16:35 < hannibal> open source games suck :D 16:35 < laxadedi> thought that zclient was only made by Tobii and Monsta 16:35 <+Tobii> the old zclient was made by meskalin and monsta 16:35 < laxadedi> it's just a bad conception of teeworlds hannibal, not a problem of opensource 16:35 < hannibal> hm 16:36 < hannibal> if ddnet grows even larger, one could think again about 16:36 < hannibal> "making it it's own game" 16:36 < laxadedi> www.hookrace.net 16:36 < hannibal> and give up the compatibility with vanilla client. 16:36 < laxadedi> but I think it's not motivated anymore about it 16:37 < laxadedi> -it's+deen 16:37 < hannibal> i see. 16:37 < hannibal> but it will/would basically be the same as tw? 16:38 < hannibal> minus the problems. 16:38 < laxadedi> Isn't it what you want ? 16:38 < hannibal> yes 16:38 < hannibal> exactly 16:38 <+o_be_one> i just want to try on my own serv, i never like modified clients, the ddnet client is only one i find useful :/ 16:38 < hannibal> i never tried another one.. 16:39 < hannibal> couldn't find them for mac :D 16:39 <+o_be_one> but zclient seems to be fun, without cheats ... 16:39 < laxadedi> o_be_one: ... 16:39 < laxadedi> zclient without cheats = ddnet client 16:39 <@deen> no, it has "fun" additions 16:39 < laxadedi> oh ? 16:39 <@deen> monsta wanted them in ddnet client, but i said no 16:39 < laxadedi> Hallo mein lieblig ! 16:39 < hannibal> how's it going with hookrace, deen? 16:40 < Anqel> xD Hello laxa 16:40 <+o_be_one> TW must keeps the fun 16:40 <@deen> hannibal: don't want to make a game for a ddosing community 16:40 < Anqel> btw it's liebliNg 16:40 <+o_be_one> ill never understand why deen you see ddnet like something totally serious 16:40 < hannibal> but wasn't the point of making it 16:40 < hannibal> to avoid them? 16:40 <@deen> no, the point was to improve ddnet 16:40 <+o_be_one> its just a game, you can make challenge but funs too ... 16:41 < hannibal> well, i get your point. 16:41 <+o_be_one> sv_test_cmds ddnet servers must have features like xxl, raimbow, etc i think ... 16:41 < Wohoo> hi all 16:41 < Anqel> hey 16:41 < hannibal> hi again 16:41 <+o_be_one> Wohoo, ! 16:41 <@deen> o_be_one: i don't know. I'm just not a fan of these things 16:42 <+o_be_one> ive seen that deen ... 16:42 < laxadedi> All those things aren't for ddrace mod anyway 16:42 <@deen> i liked ddmax because it had no /r and no fun features 16:42 <+o_be_one> and ddrace people doesnt really care about fun features cause ddrace gameplay is already fun (and some features like jetpack are awesome :D) 16:42 <+o_be_one> the /r features is useful for noobs ... 16:42 < laxadedi> yes, so why merging theses into ddnet ? 16:43 < laxadedi> just make your own server and merge everything you want 16:43 <+o_be_one> i dont know how to do it ... 16:43 < hannibal> i always thought the /r feature destroys the purpose of ddrace :D 16:43 <@deen> hannibal: i agree 16:43 <+o_be_one> i disagree 16:44 < laxadedi> I am neutral 16:44 < laxadedi> It's just 2 different things 16:44 <@deen> ddrace is about helping each other 16:44 <+o_be_one> all players are not pro gamers, many are casuals today 16:44 <@deen> with /r you can help yourself 16:44 <@heinrich5991> I think one could come up with a reasonable compromise on /r 16:44 <+o_be_one> you can keep pro gameplay, not a problem, but you can offer too casual gameplay 16:44 <+o_be_one> if i havent the time, to start again waste my time. 16:44 <@deen> i think it's nice to fail for days until you can finish a map 16:44 <+o_be_one> and leave before finish the map is very frustrating ... 16:44 <@heinrich5991> but helping yourself is IMO off-limits :P 16:44 <@heinrich5991> it could maybe be a whole-team revive 16:44 <@heinrich5991> (only if everyone is frozen) 16:45 <@deen> heinrich5991: but noobs never play in team, so it doesn't matter 16:45 <+o_be_one> i think thats why you have more and more cheats too :/ 16:45 <@heinrich5991> I had my solution to teams too :P 16:45 <@deen> yeah, i remember 16:45 <+o_be_one> noobs will search for cheats too dont get these problems. 16:45 <@heinrich5991> deen: I already told you? :o 16:45 <+o_be_one> heinrich5991, compromise, yes ! 16:45 < hannibal> no 16:45 < hannibal> :D 16:45 <@deen> i think so, heinrich5991 16:46 <@deen> maybe i'm misremembering 16:46 <@deen> the players you touched in the last X seconds are part of your team? 16:46 <@heinrich5991> the players you ever interacted with are in your team 16:46 <@heinrich5991> teams should be able to merge, players may leave teams 16:47 <@heinrich5991> (leave teams = kill, that is) 16:47 <@deen> such a complicated solution =/ 16:48 <@heinrich5991> it's a userfriendly solution 16:48 <@heinrich5991> this way, teams are almost invisible to the people who don't care 16:48 <+Learath2> dont allow /r :/ 16:48 <@heinrich5991> other people can still isolate themselves if they want 16:49 <@deen> Maybe someone should propose this in the ddnet forum so we can include a few more people in the discussion 16:49 <@deen> with 3 options: full /r, heinrich /r and no /r 16:49 <+Learath2> or atleast dont record /r ranks 16:49 <@heinrich5991> heinrich5991 /r is without ranks btw 16:49 < hannibal> no points if you used /r 16:49 < hannibal> could be something 16:50 < hannibal> but still.. someone can use it and save everyone all the time. 16:50 < hannibal> just leave it disabled. 16:50 < hannibal> let it 16:50 < hannibal> whatever. 16:50 <@deen> for example i didn't expect such a strong vote here: http://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=499 16:51 <+Learath2> if one in your team /r's all team is dq'd from ranks 16:51 <+Learath2> then there is the team0 problem 16:51 <@heinrich5991> there exists no team0 problem in my solution 16:51 <@heinrich5991> there exists no team0 :) 16:51 <@heinrich5991> what is that, anyway :) 16:52 <@heinrich5991> :P 16:52 <+Learath2> no /r is the best /r 16:52 < hannibal> yes but in all honesty, i would not feel the... urge to play a map if i couldn't fail while i try it. 16:52 < hannibal> yes 16:57 < hannibal> ok! i'll go home from work now 16:57 < hannibal> bb all. 17:06 < Wohoo> i'm testing my irc client, sorry for multiple connection :) 17:07 < laxadedi> use irssi if you are on unix system 17:16 <@deen> BlackLine is at it again on GER 17:21 < Shahan> ohi all 17:22 <@deen> hi 17:44 <@deen> !ddnetpeak 17:44 < Nimda> Current players on DDNet : 309 17:44 < Nimda> Current DDNet peak : 532 users online at 2014-09-28 20:14:41 18:09 <@EastByte> got my free vps: http://eastbit.net/priv/09_Oct-14-18_07.png 18:09 <@deen> congratulations. how is it working? 18:10 <@EastByte> seems to run fast and it has a stable ping 18:10 < pause> 128mb ram oO 18:10 <@EastByte> but kind of useless since the plan is going to run out in one month 18:10 <@EastByte> pause: would be enough for ddnet atleast :P 18:16 < laxa> pause: it's a 100% free vps thought :p 18:18 < pause> laxa: Not bad then =D 18:26 < Nimda> DDNet GER went down! 18:26 < laxa> wow, still haven't finished to compile GCC ! 18:27 < Nimda> DDNet GER went back online! 18:27 < pause> laxa: compiling gcc is always a pain 18:27 < laxa> I do that just to compile rtorrent :( 18:27 < laxa> gcc crash when compiling with 4.8 18:29 < BeaR_> UE4 took me around 5 hours :D 18:29 < Nimda> DDNet GER went down! 18:36 < laxa> UE4 ? 18:37 < laxa> unreal engine 4 ? 18:37 < BeaR_> yep 18:56 < Nimda> DDNet FRA went down! 18:56 <@deen> oh, ddos again 18:58 < Nimda> DDNet FRA went back online! 18:59 < Nimda> DDNet GER went back online! 19:08 <+o_be_one> rtorrent ... get transmission :D 19:08 <+o_be_one> well deen seems to not be vali this time cause my serv are up :/ 19:09 <@deen> o_be_one: yeah, it's the BlackLine guy 19:09 <@deen> just some noob with weak ddos attacks 19:09 <@deen> but enough to down GER 19:24 <+o_be_one> :( 19:25 < Naa> ddos^^ 19:26 < laxa> deen: you there ? 19:27 < laxa> listen, I have 2 debian 7 VMs, probably on same machine 19:28 <@deen> ok 19:28 < laxa> I need to use remotly a mysql server which is on the first VM from the second VM 19:28 < laxa> I created my user with all privileges on DB created for this 19:28 <+o_be_one> why someone comes just to say "ddos^^" and leaves ? oO what is the goal :o ? 19:28 < laxa> but when I try to connect from my VM 2, it can't connect 19:28 <+o_be_one> well did you allowed the ip too ? 19:28 <@deen> o_be_one: as he said yesterday, to get ddnet to go down forever 19:28 <@deen> just annoying us until we stop 19:29 <+o_be_one> and did the my.cnf lister 127.0.0.1 commented ? 19:29 < laxa> I saw on SO that I need to comment it out 19:29 < laxa> not to comment it 19:29 < laxa> and it was already commented out 19:29 <+o_be_one> # Instead of skip-networking the default is now to listen only on 19:29 <+o_be_one> # localhost which is more compatible and is not less secure. 19:29 <+o_be_one> bind-address = 127.0.0.1 19:30 <+o_be_one> u need to comment this. 19:30 < laxa> Wtf 19:30 < laxa> they say otherwise on SO... 19:30 <+o_be_one> its the my.cnf from debian apt 19:30 <+o_be_one> well, bind-address is where you listen 19:30 <+o_be_one> so if you only listen loopback,; how other clients can connect ? 19:31 <+o_be_one> not loopack sorry, localhost 19:31 < Nimda> DDNet FRA went down! 19:31 < laxa> fuck it, those VMs or the VPN connection is lagging as hell... 19:31 <+o_be_one> deen move you FRA and GER to my host, let me some sec to give you a user 19:32 <+eeeee> o_be_one: so you have access to anti-ddos pro on ovh? 19:32 <+o_be_one> we cant let blackline continue these stupid things. 19:32 <@deen> Also, Lggs1 = Naa 19:32 <+eeeee> can you look into https://www.ovh.co.uk/anti-ddos/firewall-network.xml ? 19:32 <+o_be_one> eeeee, yes 19:32 < Nimda> DDNet FRA went back online! 19:32 <@deen> o_be_one: i can't do it with just a user =/ 19:32 <+eeeee> i'm especially interested in what options are available in that "Configuration of your rules" interface 19:32 <+o_be_one> deen, what you need ? 19:33 <@deen> i don't know how much you want to offer and for how long 19:33 < laxa> thanks o_be_one, it works, love ya :p 19:33 <+o_be_one> eeeee, you want a screenshot ? 19:33 < Lggs1> d-d-o-s 19:33 < laxa> btw, maybe you know my school, it's ETNA 19:33 <@EastByte> eeeee: I can configure my ovh ips like this aswell 19:33 <+o_be_one> deen ok maybe better to give you 2 tricks 19:33 <+eeeee> EastByte: really? i thought it only comes with "professional usage" package or something which is only available for dedi 19:34 <@EastByte> eeeee: it does, but I'm an old user 19:34 <+eeeee> kay, so can you take a look what options are available there 19:34 <@EastByte> eeeee: I'll make a screen 19:34 <+eeeee> like can you just create like a thousand rules to drop traffic from certain ips 19:34 <@EastByte> not unlimited 19:34 <+o_be_one> only 20 rules eeeee 19:35 <+o_be_one> 0 to 19 19:35 <+eeeee> D: 19:35 < DDOS> ddos? yes 19:35 <+o_be_one> DDOS, move your ass kid 19:35 <+eeeee> just ignore him 19:35 <@EastByte> heinrich5991: would you like to voice only this channel? 19:35 < DDOS> dddooooooooooooooooooooooooos 19:36 < DDOS> just end ddnet 19:36 <@deen> DDOS: also, stop faking Hallowed1986 19:36 < DDOS> i wont giv up 19:37 < DDOS> who the fuck is hallowed1986 19:39 < DDOS> TestTee96 this guy wont help u btw ^^ 19:41 < DDOS> retarded people stop thinking ddnet will survive the attacks :> 19:41 < Welf> you ever killed a server? 19:42 < DDOS> last words to ddnet? 19:43 <+o_be_one> omg DDOS but you are noob like nazar your ddos are so small, move from here now :) 19:44 <+o_be_one> lol "ive ddosed 2 servers im the best of the world ! Oh wait, there is tons of ddnet servers, what i can do to close ddnet network :o ?" 19:44 < DDOS> gimme a blowjob and i stop it 19:44 <+o_be_one> its not just a one guy community guy, move your ass and learn how to grow kid. 19:45 < DDOS> lmao 19:46 < DDOS> is there a tournament on sunday? i hope, will be fun :> 19:47 <@deen> =/ 19:47 < DDOS> ;) 19:48 <+Learath2> +m the channel pls 19:49 <+o_be_one> +1 19:49 < DDOS> -1 19:49 <+o_be_one> and voice Java_ ^^ 19:49 <@deen> no idea how 19:49 <+Learath2> DDOS: your vote doesnt count as your are a little kid :) 19:49 <+Learath2> ./mode #ddnet +m 19:49 < DDOS> im not 19:51 <@EastByte> hmm I can't irc^^ 19:52 <@EastByte> soo 19:52 <+Java_> ^^ 19:52 <+BeaR_> lol 19:53 <@deen> EastByte: me neither 19:53 <+Learath2> you might want to voice Nimda 19:54 <@EastByte> don't think we need him^^ 19:54 <+Learath2> poor Nimda cant even talk 19:54 <+Learath2> !ping 19:54 <+laxa> EastByte: voice nimda and laxadedi omg please xD 19:54 <@EastByte> whaaat 19:55 <+laxa> <3 19:55 <+laxa> !ping 19:55 <+Nimda> Pong! 19:56 <+o_be_one> ty ! 20:03 * BeaR_ tackling the sound interface :d 20:09 <@deen> setting up a new server... 20:09 <@EastByte> so? 20:17 <+o_be_one> ddos ragequit x) lol 20:18 <@deen> how to voice someone? 20:19 <@EastByte> /mode +v someone 20:19 <@EastByte> :) 20:20 <+o_be_one> right clic :D 20:21 <+DoNe> what happaned? 20:21 <+o_be_one> -_- you use the ssh client, you are crazy. 20:21 <+o_be_one> :D 20:21 <@deen> what happened where? 20:21 <+DoNe> i can read my name: "mode/#ddnet [+v DoNe] by EastByte" 20:21 <@deen> you now can speak 20:22 <+DoNe> you cant by default? 20:22 <@EastByte> we need to keep the channel clean from ddosers 20:22 <@EastByte> so 20:22 <+DoNe> haha 20:23 <+o_be_one> EastByte, not from ddosers ... from bulshitters ^^ 20:24 <+Pups> kind schon im bett? 20:24 <+o_be_one> !de-fr kind schon im bett? 20:24 <+Nimda> Translation: déjà au lit enfant? 20:24 <@deen> Pups: so that the ddosers don't spam shit here 20:24 <+o_be_one> you are the kid x) 20:24 <+Pups> ah allright deen 20:25 <+Hallowed1986> the child is in bed now? 20:25 <+Hallowed1986> thats good to know 20:25 <+Hallowed1986> now the real people can play again :) 20:25 <@EastByte> :) 20:27 <@deen> should i call the new ones FRA2 or FRA? 20:27 <+DoNe> new ones? 20:27 <@deen> yes 20:27 <@deen> new servers 20:28 <+DoNe> but also located in france? 20:28 <@deen> yes 20:28 <+DoNe> and old ones stay? 20:28 <@deen> i just want something with a better ddos protection for now 20:28 <@EastByte> deen: is it from o_be_one ? 20:28 <+DoNe> would call them FRA2 so every1 can check if they work better 20:28 <@deen> EastByte: it's just a new host with good ddos protection apparently 20:29 <@deen> ok 20:29 <@EastByte> from where did you get it? 20:30 <@deen> can't say 20:30 <@deen> sorry =/ 20:31 <+DoNe> wtf 20:32 <@EastByte> okay no problem :) 20:36 <@deen> FRA2 should be running 20:37 <+o_be_one> how many budget you give to ddnet deen ? 20:37 <+laxa> the kid is sleeping 20:37 <+o_be_one> and why we cant donate ? 20:37 <+DoNe> got better internet today :) 20:37 <+DoNe> who's the kid!? 20:37 <+laxa> the ddoser 20:38 <+Hallowed1986> if he build in the donate button nobody donate, if he cut it out all ask for the donate button :D 20:38 <@deen> DoNe: http://ddnet.tw/players/BlackLine 20:38 <@deen> That's the ddoser 20:38 <+laxa> Hallowed1986: he received few donations before, but he gave back the money when he removed the button. 20:38 <+o_be_one> when ive read about donate, it was like a "tilt" in my head, cause i always donate to project that i like ... 20:38 <@deen> laxa: your donation was still 50% of all i received :P 20:38 <+laxa> Oh :) 20:39 <+Hallowed1986> and my? 20:39 <+Hallowed1986> xD 20:39 <@deen> didn't i pay it back? 20:39 <+laxa> gcc still being compiled, that's about 4hours and 30 minutes :x 20:39 <@deen> laxa: wtf? 20:39 <+o_be_one> ive a flavours me, ive already donated to one good dev in ddrace community, ive already donate to many other projects and indies 20:39 <@deen> i regularly compile gcc and it's much faster 20:39 <+DoNe> do servers start with random maps? 20:39 <+laxa> my cpu on the dedi is really weak 20:39 <@deen> DoNe: no 20:39 <+o_be_one> deen, give paypal mail where to donate 20:39 <+laxa> and I am compiling the full GCC with all compilers I think 20:39 <@deen> o_be_one: nowhere! 20:39 <+o_be_one> why ? 20:40 <@deen> i don't want you to manipulate me with money! 20:40 <+o_be_one> lol 20:40 <+o_be_one> im sure money cant manipulate you ;) 20:41 <+laxa> o_be_one: you know ETNA ? 20:41 <+DoNe> how servers start with different random looking maps? 20:41 <@deen> i chose them 20:42 <+DoNe> ah 20:42 <@deen> the new server looks nice 20:42 <@deen> same performance as kimsufi, but less than half the price 20:43 <+o_be_one> laxa, no 20:43 <+laxa> but you don't pay for it, someone gave it to you right ? 20:43 <+o_be_one> awesome hope it will do the job :D 20:44 <@deen> i pay for it 20:44 <+laxa> Hum, then why can't you say what server it is ? 20:44 <+o_be_one> deen, serious nobody can donate >.< ? 20:44 <+o_be_one> i use your awesome client, i play on your ddrace maps often, i love what you do and i cant just give some bucks to thanks ? 20:44 <+laxa> I doubt the protection is going to be good enough if the server is that cheap. 20:45 <+o_be_one> >.< 20:45 <+laxa> o_be_one: I guess deen will put donation back when servers are safe from ddos. 20:45 <@deen> aka never 20:45 <@deen> maybe we should collect donations for the other guys paying servers 20:46 <@deen> but it's a bit difficult 20:46 <@deen> I know Broken pays USA 20:46 <@deen> i don't even know who pays CHina 20:46 <@deen> it just keeps running and i have noone to contact 20:46 <@deen> and it's rather difficult to get money into Iran... 20:47 <+o_be_one> deen, but its really cause you fear about manipulation ? 20:48 <@deen> it's because the servers are running badly and I'm ashamed to take money for that 20:48 <+o_be_one> r0x.fr has a donate button on his website, 5 years donation every month ! for 1 year we got, every month, 175€ to pay our servers (was very very very bigs servers ;......, withotu sponsor !) 20:48 <+o_be_one> deen you dont just host server, you develop a client and server bin ... 20:49 <@deen> why are there only good ddos protected servers in france and not in germany? 20:49 <+laxa> o_be_one: I truly think it would be a shame to give money for the dev part because it would be ridiculous compared to the work deen did 20:50 <+o_be_one> i dont really care about your game servers cause i just play sometime, im often on mine. But your work about client and a little about server (but i hate that there miss some funny things and features >.<) and now i know you a little better (your mind, etc.) i want to pay for that, 20:50 <+laxa> deen: I guess it's because of the bandwith cost 20:50 <+o_be_one> ive already payed a dev just cause he fixes immediately something in his server bin ... lol. 20:50 <+o_be_one> well i thing that guys that offer times and money could receive help from donators; 20:51 <+o_be_one> cause germany is noob. 20:51 <+o_be_one> ive already seen some gameserver closed by providers just cause of ddos -_- 20:51 <+o_be_one> serious, not pro ! 20:51 <+o_be_one> hey if i remember well vali was one of them >.< 20:52 <+o_be_one> laxa, its just a bigger thanks than the word "thank you" 20:52 <+laxa> you know reverse proxy nginx o_be_one ? 20:55 <+o_be_one> laxa, just worked a little on it :( 20:55 <+o_be_one> laxa, what do you want to do ? 20:55 <+laxa> simple reverse proxy with remote hosts 20:55 <+laxa> but apparently images aren't loaded 20:56 <+laxa> I think I forogot to add this : 20:56 <+laxa> proxy_set_header Host $host; 20:56 <+laxa> proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr; 20:56 <+laxa> proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for; 20:56 <@deen> so there are honest vps providers after all! 20:57 <@deen> o_be_one: we were closed in iran multiple times because of ddos 20:57 <@deen> and now we have a bad server with lags and noone plays 21:04 <+KinG> hi all 21:04 <+KinG> deen: hi u here? 21:05 <@deen> hi 21:05 <+KinG> hey 21:05 <@deen> !ddnetpeak 21:05 <+Nimda> Current players on DDNet : 298 21:05 <+Nimda> Current DDNet peak : 532 users online at 2014-09-28 20:14:41 21:05 <+KinG> deen: u want to see 1st part of my map ? :D 21:05 <@deen> no, sorry 21:05 <+KinG> xD 21:05 <@deen> I'm busy 21:05 <+KinG> ik 21:06 <@deen> i really like the new FRA server 21:06 <@deen> can finally get rid of the expensive kimsufi 21:06 <+eeeee> whats the new server 21:06 <@EastByte> it's a secret :O 21:06 <@deen> ingame it's FRA2 21:08 <@EastByte> 64 bytes from 178.33.191.10: icmp_seq=1 ttl=62 time=0.667 ms 21:08 <@EastByte> I guess its located in GRA? 21:08 <@deen> ^^ 21:08 <@deen> You detective! 21:09 <+eeeee> so much for the secret 21:09 <@EastByte> ^^ 21:10 <@deen> if it was up to me i would've told you =/ 21:11 <+eeeee> k ic 21:11 <@EastByte> c'mon I guess the more interesting thing is which provider is being used :) 21:12 <+eeeee> if it's cheaper then some sublease of ovh i guess 21:12 <@EastByte> or some reseller 21:14 <+eeeee> https://www.harmony-hosting.com/help/monitoring/ there you go 21:15 <@deen> mine has the lowest uptime =( 21:28 <@deen> I didn't know ddnet client was that popular: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11097 21:29 <@deen> but whenever i check about half of the people on any server are not using it 21:29 <+o_be_one> lol many players laughed about me cause i was using the original client ... 21:29 <@deen> i'd like to know why people don't use ddnet client 21:29 <+o_be_one> ive moved to ddnet one month ago i think. 21:30 <+o_be_one> ddnet is the only one client i like to use after the original 21:30 <+o_be_one> maybe cause there is no cheat and features added enhance TW. 21:30 <+o_be_one> but i hate the aimline feature. 21:30 <+o_be_one> (and its not the mind of someone whos doesnt want /r >.<) 21:30 <+o_be_one> i dont use aimline so :p 21:31 <@deen> aimline is mainly for one reason 21:31 <@deen> to save tees by hooking through corners 21:31 <@deen> for normal play i don't like it much either 21:32 <@deen> so, harmony-hosting looks awesome so far. hope they can handle the ddos 21:32 <+KinG> deen: i made a map that i can't even get to start ^^ 21:33 <@deen> weird 21:33 <+KinG> so wierd ^^ 21:37 <+o_be_one> deen, told them they can talk with me if they need to send you urgent message about something 21:37 <+o_be_one> i work always with them (they are on irc !) 21:37 <+o_be_one> they are my friends now ... 21:37 <@EastByte> hello Themix, east here 21:37 <+o_be_one> so if you need help too, you'll be welcome. 21:37 <@deen> nice o_be_one 21:37 < Themix> Hey 21:37 <@deen> hi Themix 21:39 <+KinG> deen: one thing that i couldn't find on http://ddnet.tw/rules/ is what the white DDNet tiles are the start or the black ones? like the start of a jetpack part! 21:39 <@deen> http://ddnet.tw/howto/ 21:41 <+KinG> but deen i use te red game tiles for start and they are correct like jetpack the red ones are start of a jetpack part and greens end why it's like this in here?!:| 21:44 <@deen> no idea 21:44 <+KinG> omg ^^ 21:45 <+laxa> fuck, gcc compilation failed 21:45 <+KinG> what is gcc?:| 21:46 <@deen> gnu compiler collection 21:46 <+laxa> checking for unzip... /usr/bin/unzip 21:46 <+laxa> configure: error: cannot find neither zip nor jar, cannot continue 21:47 <+laxa> oh ok 21:47 <+laxa> need zip... 21:50 <+laxa> deen: do you know if harmony is company from ovh or a reseller ? 21:52 <+laxa> well apparently it's a reseller :) 21:52 <+laxa> I guess the guy paying for it is french, and it's not o_be_one, really wondering who it is 21:54 <+laxa> deen: you have a teamspeak 3 server installed on your VPS by default ! 21:55 <+laxa> by no "no-profit" license though 21:55 <+laxa> -by+but 21:56 <+laxa> ah or maybe not, depends on your server configuration 21:59 <+laxa> Wow, didn't knew, but crontab can execute things only at start... 21:59 <+laxa> Might be better than services or upstart I guess :p 21:59 <+laxa> or rc-levels 22:00 <@deen> laxa: paying for it? 22:00 <@deen> laxa: i'm paying for it 22:00 <+laxa> how did you did, no english interface ! 22:00 <@deen> i just clicked random stuff 22:00 <@deen> that sounded good 22:00 <+laxa> xD 22:00 <@deen> actually did no translation at all! 22:00 <+laxa> then why it needs to be "secret" ? 22:01 <@deen> because it has good protection 22:01 <+laxa> who told you about it ? 22:03 <+laxa> they seem nice indeed 22:03 <@deen> oh yeah, first ictf game in forever! 22:23 <+o_be_one> laxa, its me 22:23 <+o_be_one> its my hoster. 22:23 <+eeeee> i've been using proplay.de for my vps for years and they only have german interface 22:23 <+o_be_one> my provider* (im just a customer) 22:23 <+eeeee> so had to use same approach as deen 22:24 <@deen> proplay seem to be nice, but no protection 22:24 <@deen> nfoservers are in Frankfurt and apparently have protection, but would cost 55 € per month 22:24 <+eeeee> yeah i used to have like 8 cpus for 3eur/month 22:24 <+o_be_one> laxa, its my sponsor, sponsor of r0x.fr community 22:25 <+o_be_one> oh guy i have a NPL about TeamSpeak 22:25 <+o_be_one> you need a TS3 server ? :o 22:25 <+o_be_one> im allowed to host 10 servers with 512 slots ... 22:25 <+laxa> ts.ddnet.tw is NPL 22:25 <+o_be_one> i use only one of these 10 ... 22:25 <+o_be_one> oh ok 22:25 <+laxa> don't steal me that 22:25 <+laxa> :p 22:25 <+o_be_one> " deen: you have a teamspeak 3 server installed on your VPS by default !" 22:25 <+laxa> but no NPL license 22:26 <+o_be_one> yes thats why ive said that 22:26 <@deen> i don't know why i would need that? 22:26 <+laxa> I think you don't have it anyway if you choosed regular debian 7 22:26 <@deen> yes i did 22:27 <+laxa> o_be_one: and I understand it that way : you can have up to 10 virtual servers with a max slots number being 512 22:27 <+eeeee> deen: ever thought of breifly showing some "download ddnet client" protip in the broadcast when vanilla client user connects? 22:27 <+laxa> I don't think you can have 10 x 512 slots 22:28 <+o_be_one> laxa, yes they need to share the same ip >.< 22:29 <@deen> eeeee: good idea 22:38 <@deen> any idea how quickly i can cancel kimsufi? 22:38 <@EastByte> lol, you won't get the money back 22:38 <@EastByte> so why cancel it? 22:39 <@deen> too bad 22:39 <@deen> i got the money back at KMS 22:39 <+o_be_one> no money back 22:39 <@EastByte> ah, nice 22:39 <+o_be_one> just dont pay the next month ... 22:39 <@deen> alright, figured so 22:39 <@EastByte> and give me the server 22:39 <+o_be_one> maybe you can try deen :/ 22:39 <@deen> i'll wait a bit to see what happens when FRA2 gets ddosed 22:39 <@EastByte> yea, we'll see 22:40 <@deen> I'm just wondering 22:40 <@deen> i'll also have to migrate the website again 22:40 <@deen> mailserver and everything 22:40 <@EastByte> just put website and stuff on a cheap ddos protected vps :/ 22:40 <@deen> sigh, where to get that? 22:40 <+eeeee> guess you could just use gmail for mail and cloudflare for website 22:41 <+Nimda> DDNet GER went down! 22:41 <@EastByte> I agree to gmail (external mail provider) 22:41 <@deen> o_be_one: do i get a message when my HH server gets ddosed? 22:41 <+o_be_one> deen, i dont understand why you dont host this fucking website + mail on a server not hosting tw -_- 22:42 <@deen> o_be_one: because i don't have anyo ther server 22:42 <@deen> any other* 22:42 <+o_be_one> deen, unfortunately no, but in the panel there is a notif on firewall setting "your server is under attack" 22:42 <@EastByte> 2,4eur ovh vps :) 22:42 <+Nimda> DDNet GER went back online! 22:42 <@EastByte> and cloudflare on top 22:42 <+o_be_one> but i can ask them to give some graph when needed 22:42 <@EastByte> or somethin 22:42 <+o_be_one> EastByte, 200€ cloudflare ... 22:42 <@deen> o_be_one: hm, a mail would be nice 22:42 <+o_be_one> per month ! 22:42 <@EastByte> I mean the free version 22:42 <+o_be_one> deen, sure ill tell them 22:43 <@EastByte> well but I don't like cloudflare 22:43 <+o_be_one> deen, you want a free vps to host website + mails ? 22:43 <@deen> it also needs to run the database 22:43 <@deen> and my bouncer and some stuff like that 22:43 <@deen> also, FRA1 getting ddosed 22:55 < Savander> [22:54:01] woah 22:55 <+laxa> [22:54:01] how is tmux better than screen then ? 22:55 <+laxa> [22:54:05] pause uses tmux too 22:55 <+o_be_one> [22:54:07] screeeennn 22:55 <+o_be_one> [22:54:12] pause, pourquoiiiiii :'( 22:55 <@EastByte> [22:54:19] even pause knows that tmux is much better 22:55 <+laxa> [22:54:29] o_be_one: tu sais que je suis francais au moins ? :) 22:55 <+o_be_one> [22:54:57] ok seen the vs, tmux is better. 22:55 <+laxa> [22:55:06] vs ? 22:55 <+o_be_one> [22:55:10] laxa, non du tout :D ! t'es d'où ? je suis de Montpellier mais ej vis à Montreal depuis 1 an :p 22:55 <+o_be_one> [22:55:16] http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Screen_vs_tmux 22:55 <+Nimda> [22:55:19] DDNet Chile went back online! 22:55 <+eeeee> [22:55:26] interesting, turns out there actually are some ways to detect spoofed ips http://www.cs.wm.edu/~hnw/paper/hcf.pdf 22:55 <+eeeee> now we have to figure if anyone implements that 22:56 <+laxa> o_be_one: Paris, pause is a good friend of me, he currently uses my server as IRC bouncer. 22:56 <+o_be_one> oh ok 22:56 <+o_be_one> hes from paris too ? 22:56 <@EastByte> eeeee: I can feel a lot of fals positives^^ 22:56 <+laxa> yeah 22:56 <+laxa> we both did EPITECH at Paris. 22:56 <+laxa> but I left after 2 years 22:56 <+laxa> and he is currently finishing it, in last year now. 22:57 <+o_be_one> ahah 22:57 <+o_be_one> ive made SUPINFO :D ! 22:58 <@deen_> I have a feeling we'll lose chile for good tonight 22:59 <+o_be_one> deen_, you cant put all your eggs in the same cart. Your website must not be hosted on same host has your gameservers 22:59 <+o_be_one> well TCP servers must not be hosted with UDP servers i think :p 23:00 <@EastByte> let's just implement tcp support in tw 23:01 <+eeeee> or even better, make tw work over http 23:02 <+eeeee> and cloudflare it :P 23:02 <@EastByte> does cloudflare only forward http? 23:02 <@EastByte> let's see whether they support websockets^^ 23:02 <+eeeee> not the free version 23:03 <@EastByte> ah 23:04 <+o_be_one> TCP is much better >.< 23:04 <+Nimda> DDNet Chile went down! 23:04 <@EastByte> I wanted to implement an unreliable datagram model over tcp using multiple streams 23:04 <@EastByte> but http makes it even funnier :D 23:05 <+eeeee> yeah 23:05 <+eeeee> unfortunately if you open too many streams it might be considered an attack 23:05 <@EastByte> ep 23:05 <@EastByte> yep 23:28 <@deen_> TestTee96: your server is from nfoservers? 23:28 <+o_be_one> TestTee96, your french too :p 23:29 < TestTee96> I am 23:29 < TestTee96> Yes they are Deen 23:38 <@deen_> but if you have something private to say you can whisper me 23:38 <@deen_> and don't mind the other deen joining all the time, that's just a ddosed server 23:38 <@deen_> OVH one actually 23:39 < TestTee96> Okay.. :P 23:39 <@deen_> you said you could convert one to linux? 23:39 <@deen_> what specs would it have? 23:39 < TestTee96> But those are not ddos protected 23:39 <@deen_> ah, too bad 23:39 < TestTee96> 1-4gb ram 23:39 <@deen_> nfoservers is not protected or what? 23:40 < TestTee96> cpu strong enough 23:40 < TestTee96> nfo is safe enough up to know 23:40 <@EastByte> safe enough against 28gbit/s traiffc? 23:40 < TestTee96> But they can be downed probably, Found a problem in the firewall of nfo.. 23:40 < TestTee96> Do you get 28gbit? 23:41 < Maple> woo 23:41 <@deen_> i think 20 gbit/s was the max so far 23:41 <+o_be_one> hey Maple :D 23:41 <@deen_> hi Maple 23:41 < Maple> yo 23:41 < Maple> the hall of fame is laggy 23:41 < TestTee96> I got good connections with owners of multiple online booters/botnets. I can ask stresstesting on my server? 23:41 < Maple> so many videos take long to load 23:41 < TestTee96> Maple: We are trying to find a solution to ddosing 23:42 <@deen_> Maple: https://www.youtube.com/user/DDraceNetwork/videos 23:42 < Maple> ddos the ddoser 23:42 <@deen_> Maple: i know, i have to redesign it somehow 23:42 <@deen_> TestTee96: don't attack your own server^^ 23:42 < Maple> i suggest just making a list of titles 23:42 <@EastByte> TestTee96: the attacks are pretty well targeted on teeworlds servers 23:42 < TestTee96> deen_: I do it all the time 23:43 < TestTee96> My big websites get pen-tests all the time 23:43 <@deen_> TestTee96: can you give me a ddos protected linux server in Frankfurt? 23:43 < TestTee96> for db security, etc 23:43 < TestTee96> linux, 23:43 < TestTee96> Then I should convert mine into linux? 23:43 <@deen_> I'm just asking what you're offering 23:43 <@deen_> DDNet can't run on Windows 23:43 < TestTee96> I could, but I was thinking of something else 23:43 < TestTee96> (Got windows 23:43 < TestTee96> of? 23:43 <@deen_> ok, tell me 23:44 < TestTee96> Why not? 23:44 <@deen_> because i have a bunch of scripts and i don't want to port them to Windows 23:44 <@deen_> i have 0 experience with windows servers 23:44 < TestTee96> Okay 23:44 < TestTee96> Well, I can convert it 23:44 < TestTee96> But I still have a better Idea 23:44 <@deen_> tell me! 23:45 < TestTee96> I should rent a Dedicated (linux.. :( ) server 23:45 < TestTee96> And make multiple profiles on it 23:45 <@deen_> Maple: if you're bored, remake the hall of fame website and send it to me 23:45 <@deen_> sounds expensive, TestTee96 23:45 < TestTee96> You your account, I will have mine, and we give hosters the possibility to join 23:45 < TestTee96> like r0x etc 23:45 <+o_be_one> its me :d 23:46 < TestTee96> 32gb, more then enough for half teeworlds 23:46 < TestTee96> génial ;) 23:46 < TestTee96> Not half teeworlds, but you get what I mean 23:46 <@deen_> 32 GB is enough for entire teeworlds 23:46 <+o_be_one> What is your goal TestTee96 i dont really understand from where you come and why you want to help all tw servers ? 23:46 < TestTee96> Well 23:47 < TestTee96> I used to own one of the best and most played teeworlds servers a couple years ago. When some people were jaleous. They started to ddos me. I had to stop hosting and started with learning about ddos, finding some friends. Testing all things arround it. 23:48 < TestTee96> Now, a couple years later, I think I have enough experience, money and time to be helpful for TeeWorlds 23:48 < TestTee96> It is a great community. Some old players got me in to it again. 23:49 < TestTee96> I can have some people donating a small amount (5-15€) /month just to have some servers of me online again 23:49 <+laxa> Took me the day to make it work, but I finally have this fucking rtorrent compiled with last sources \o/ 23:49 < TestTee96> I think with the help of a couple people with the same goal as me, 23:49 < TestTee96> We could make a safe & good Teeworlds 23:49 < TestTee96> Built on Trust, Time and Friendship 23:50 < TestTee96> Not all hosters will be able to join our hosting. Only the ones realy motivated, not abusing, and mature enough to not fuck arrount with servers 23:50 < TestTee96> Some requirements need to be met. And the players that will get to know us, and like us. Might donate just to keep on the stability and fun