00:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Arseniy Zarche im the most important person on this server lol 01:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ok 01:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @evil noby is the most important person on this server than @jao and @heinrich5991 ok? 01:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] πŸ˜„ 01:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah 01:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Π–Π’ 01:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] πŸ˜„ 08:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 08:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419756788766998539/IMG-20180303-WA0003.jpeg 08:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Your new one? :3 08:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Y :) 08:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Finally one of us has a mac to fix mac stuff 08:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Bah does it have a touch of Genius? 08:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Tbh it's a completely retarded design for a "Pro" laptop 08:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] No physical esc key... 08:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Yeah touch of genius 08:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Thats why i bought an older macbook pro 08:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I have real keys and still killer Performance 08:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Macbooks don't really compete with actual beastly notebooks 08:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] They do 08:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] It runs better than any of my Gaming Laptops 08:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I got this one from work mostly for the ios simulator 08:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] My razer blade pro cant even run teeworlds 08:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xD 08:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Mac Books are strong and Nice looking. They are also very quiet 08:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] You are going to Love it πŸ˜ƒ 08:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Well my 2012 thinkpad is still going strong but my dads 2011 macbook sounds like a vacuum cleaner and is so slow noone uses it anymore 08:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Hmm 08:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I have a 10 yrs old macbook 08:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] From my grandma and it runs better than my 4 yr old msi Gaming laptop 08:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I hate gaming laptops anyway they look weird :D 08:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Not razer 08:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] They Look Even better than mac 08:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 2cm in thickness :D 08:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419758799281324033/JPEG_20180304_083058.jpg 08:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xD 08:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Dropped this thing from 1.5m nothing happened 08:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] lul great 08:32 <+Learath2> I drop a macbook I'll probably need a new one :P 08:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Lemme test real quick 08:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xd 08:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 08:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419759220506755072/image.jpg 08:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I don't wanna test it 08:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] But this one looks very solid imo 08:33 <+Learath2> definitely don't test :D 08:34 <+Learath2> I can open up this thinkpad and change all the parts, it's all replacable, you break that mac not even a genius can fix it 08:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it worked with older ones like the one on the pic 08:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] also with even newer ones 08:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i opend my last macbook 08:39 <+Learath2> opening is no issue, putting it back together is not fun :D 08:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 08:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419760880365076500/image.jpg 08:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye idk about computers 08:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i just managed to remove the harddrive xxD 08:40 <+Learath2> they always did rock the design part 08:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but still 08:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 08:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] razer design > all 08:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or do you mean the os? 08:42 <+Learath2> I hate the flashy razer design tbh, too green 08:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :c 08:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] how can you 08:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] green is great 08:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you just dislike the balck u racist xd 08:43 <+Learath2> also hate the company since the only piece of razer gear I had was a headphone that broke down in a month and had the sound quality of a potato 08:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] oh you should retry 08:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i even have their music box 08:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and probably going to replace my ihpon with razer phone 08:44 <+Learath2> no way, I'm very happy with my current peripherals, I have an amazing sennheiser hd598se, it's like night and day after the "gaming" gear 08:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yuk 08:44 <+Learath2> I really couldn't find a nice phone yet, switched to s8 from an iphone but the performance is quite disappointing tbh 08:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i like to move free 08:45 <+Learath2> move free? 08:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i have nothing on my head 08:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] with cable 08:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i use 20 yrs old sound system 08:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xd 08:45 <+Learath2> speaker person are we? :) 08:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye 08:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so i can run away 08:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and around 08:46 <+Learath2> I really like good sound, it'd cost me a fortune get the sound quality I currently have with speakers 08:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] fok sound 08:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] freedom! 08:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xd 08:46 <+Learath2> that's what you say until you try a nice pair of headphones, especially if your sound gear was meh before 08:46 <+Learath2> it's like the music has new notes in it :D 08:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] hmmm 08:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but i use my pc to play music 08:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] in the whole flat 08:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] while being afk 08:48 <+Learath2> I generally (ab)use my tv for that, horrible sound quality but as said can't afford speakers :D 08:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and i like to go afk a lot 08:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i didnt pay a ct for my speakers 08:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] they are too old to cost money 08:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xd 08:49 <+Learath2> :D 08:49 <+Learath2> I have a razer addicted friend, he also loves writing xd, are you from italy but live in turkey? :P 08:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xd 08:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] by writing you mean chatting in ze web? 08:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i suck in writing at school 08:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nah im german potato 08:51 <+Learath2> :( 10:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] syltoox reports that the client crashes for them five to ten times before it starts once 10:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] its ddnet11 10:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] crashy af 10:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] no news 10:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] other people experience the same problem 10:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon give us something to debug please 10:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] im worst debugger 10:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i would revert everything i dont understand hehe 10:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] this is supposed to be a developer channel 10:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye sry 10:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you don't need to add "its ddnet 11" "crashy af" every time I mention it 10:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ok i try to work on that 10:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I guess you're on windows as well? 10:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Syltoox which OS are you on? 10:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes i mainly play on windows 10:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] maybe that is the problem why I don't see the crashes 10:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yep win sux 10:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what changed in ddnet11? was it this opengl stuff? 10:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] its because we stopped using bam :p 10:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] windows doesn't suck 10:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] opengl stuff, but I heard you disabled that 10:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] changing from bam to another build system is unlikely to be the cause, the generated executables should basically be the same 10:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the bam was just troll 10:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] im still sad that we use evil cmake 10:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye its weird that it still crashes without having gl activated 10:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but what could cause a crash then? 10:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] any commit πŸ˜› 10:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can you somehow reliably reproduce the crash? 10:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] duude 10:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i cant compile new ddnet 10:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] not on macOS or on windows 10:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] .-. 10:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can I help you with that? 10:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] would be great 10:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ok 10:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] are you currently on windows or macos? 10:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419785815237984257/CMakeError.log 10:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419785818404814848/CMakeOutput.log 10:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thats macOS logs 10:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] do you want my win logs too? 10:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i would prefer to dev on windows because i have a bigger screen there 10:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but i thought macOS could be less complicated 10:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can you give me the `cmake` output? 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i.e. the stuff that is in the log window (in the GUI app) or in the terminal (for the command line interface) 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `` 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Usage 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] cmake [options] 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] cmake [options] 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Specify a source directory to (re-)generate a build system for it in the 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] current working directory. Specify an existing build directory to 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] re-generate its build system. 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Run 'cmake --help' for more information. 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `` 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] that one? xd 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ok, go to the source directory 10:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] then do `mkdir build;cd build;cmake ..` 10:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the output of that 10:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i did that 10:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] shouldnt be the output in the output.log 10:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] then the `Usage` thing shows up? 10:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] just lemme retry and send u the text from the terminal 10:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] πŸ‘ 10:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] aaah 10:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] looks like client stuff 10:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can i build only server? 10:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] cmake .. -DCLIENT=OFF 10:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ty 10:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `cmake .. -DCLIENT=OFF` 10:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ah great 10:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] k works 10:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419787115799511041/Bildschirmfoto_2018-03-04_um_10.23.58.png 10:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but for people who care about clients a apple instruction how to fetch all the client libs would be cool c: 10:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] maybe i can try to search some 10:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can you show me the errors? 10:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] missing lib stuff 10:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] im trying to fix it my self first c; 10:31 <+Learath2> I can't get it to crash once in 30 tries, heinrich5991 is it just a select few people that it happens to? 10:31 <@heinrich5991> on windows (10)? 10:32 <+Learath2> on windows 7 10:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I'll reboot to windows 10… 10:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i had the crashes on win10 10:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] same 10:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] btw i give up with the manually macOS dependencies xxxD 10:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i just managed to install ogg opus and wavpack... guess its smarter to use the ddnet-libs 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] oh, you don't have ddnet-libs downloaded? 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] that explains the missing dependencies ^^ 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] no 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye ik 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but i wanted to do it manually 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you can try `brew` 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] they probably have all the libs 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i did 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] bre not found gtest 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and all the other stuff 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] gtest isn't needed theoretically 10:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] pnglite isnt in brew too 10:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] pnglite is already in the ddnet repo 10:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] doesn't need `ddnet-libs` 10:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419790733080395787/Bildschirmfoto_2018-03-04_um_10.38.19.png 10:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] "using bundled version" 10:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye? 10:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it's in the ddnet repository, not in the ddnet-libs one 10:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] src/engine/external/pnglite/pnglite.c IIRC 10:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but it still fails 10:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Learath2 why doesn't the arrow on the home page start the download? 10:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you haven't shown the error yet 😦 10:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] me? 10:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes 10:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419791377589600256/error.txt 10:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 does on android :P 10:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thats the cmake .. output 10:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] should this 10:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `` 10:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] mkdir build 10:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] cd build 10:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] cmake .. 10:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `` 10:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] also work on windows? because i just installed the ddnet-libs there and it still doesnt build the client 10:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes, that should work as well 10:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] hm it doesnt even work to build with ``cmake .. -DCLIENT=OFF`` .-. 10:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what's your `cmake` version on either? 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `` 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] cmake version 3.10.2 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] CMake suite maintained and supported by Kitware (kitware.com/cmake). 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `` 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thats win 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and on mac: 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `` 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] cmake version 3.9.2 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] CMake suite maintained and supported by Kitware (kitware.com/cmake). 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `` 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] that sounds good 10:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thta, too 10:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ddnet-libs should be in ddnet/ddnet-libs? 10:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and then i cmake .. in the build folder? 10:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] just do a git submodule update --init 10:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i just did that 10:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] just do a `git submodule update --init` 10:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] weird .-. 10:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ok 10:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the mac thing seems to be a separate problem of mac :/ can you try with `-DCLIENT=ON` on mac now that you have the dependencies? 10:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yo why does it say no errors or warinings and then make doesnt want to build? 10:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] http://puu.sh/zAh2f/b6ba237600.png 10:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] delete `CMakeCache.txt`, `CMakeFiles` from the ddnet directory 10:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes i can build server and client on mac with the ddnet-libs 10:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] where are they located? 10:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i always recreated the build folder 10:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] directly in the ddnet directory? 10:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or are they in ddnet( 10:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ah k 10:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] oh wait 10:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] mh 10:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I don't know what the default target is 10:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] maybe it's not makefiles 10:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] on windows 10:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ? 10:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] check what you can see in the `build` directory 10:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] a well mac build failed too btw .-. 10:51 <+Learath2> you should use cmake to trigger the build 10:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 10:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419794064314073099/Bildschirmfoto_2018-03-04_um_10.51.33.png 10:51 <+Learath2> cmake --build 10:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ah 10:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] kk 10:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] lemme try 10:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `cmake --build ` 10:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what args? 10:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the build directory 10:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so .? 10:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] when im in ddnet/build? 10:52 <+Learath2> cmake --build . --config Debug iirc 10:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] `cmake --build .` 10:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye 10:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] . 10:52 <+Learath2> if you want a debug build that is 10:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] doing something c: 10:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ok worked fine c: 10:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yay i can build servers on win and mac 10:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] idc about clients anyways 10:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can you recreate the build directory on mac and check if it works on a second try? 10:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye sure 10:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but i recrated them all the time 10:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so no big hope 10:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] mhk 10:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but i do it for u ❀ 10:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ❀ 10:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] just takes a bit seems like its using 0.1 threads to build xd 10:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ^^ 10:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or cmake builds 98120932 things idk 10:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] bam was faster hehe 10:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] http://puu.sh/zAhem/53156bfb99.png 10:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] isnt build/ ignored? 10:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] do a `git add build` and tell me which files I forgot to ignore 10:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] everything below `build` should be ignored 10:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] uhm 10:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it added more than my screen can show 10:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] hey 10:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] uhm 10:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] show me the beginniing 10:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] http://puu.sh/zAhgS/df1ce825ee.png 11:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @ChillerDragon add Debug and Release to the gitignore please 11:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ah and btw the mac build failed agian on the ogg/ogg include 11:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and report back 11:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ok, the ogg thing sounds bad 11:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can you give me the CMakeCache from mac 11:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] sure c: 11:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 11:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419796962699640842/CMakeCache.txt 11:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what do you mean by adding debug and reals to gitignore? 11:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] echo Debug >> .gitignore 11:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] echo Release >> .gitignore 11:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes 11:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye? xd 11:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/.gitignore 11:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] why isnt there are build/ ? 11:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] because you can name your build folder whatever you want 11:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] meh 11:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] who needs that freedom 11:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I DO 11:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I do 11:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] oke 11:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I have like 5 different build folders 11:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] crazy dude 11:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] http://puu.sh/zAhtk/721879c7b5.png 11:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] were you serious about putting these two words at the end? 11:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can you check now whether the build folder is ignored? 11:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it isnt 11:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] have you tried to re-add everything? 11:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] after unstaging 11:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but i still modified the gitginore 11:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so i cant push that anways 11:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] re-add everything to see what's still not blocked 11:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] re-add everything to see what's still not ignored 11:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] kk 11:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so recreating the build folder i guess 11:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nah 11:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] follow the instructions in git status 11:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] there are no instructions 11:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] just says it added tons of stuff 11:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but now it worked 11:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i recreated the build folder 11:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and i just says i modified the gitignore 11:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it should say something like "do this to unstage" 11:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can i push this? 11:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or do i have to remove it before push? 11:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] before you do that, put it into the appropriate place 11:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the Debug and Release 11:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] k 11:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so i can make a pr just with the gitignore change? 11:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes 11:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] cool c; 11:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] hope the place is ok 11:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] put it in the list with CMakeCache.txt etc 11:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye did that 11:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] at the bottom 11:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and ordered alphabetically! 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] oh shiet 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] sec 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] cbc 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the rest isnt ordered too? 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it is, I think 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] http://puu.sh/zAhFe/8510c5ef1e.png 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] c 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] c 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] c 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] _c 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] b 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] c 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] g 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i can fix that too 11:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes, first all the capital letters, then the non-capitals 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nah 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it's sorted like in ASCII I guess 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ah capital 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i see 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] k 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] C 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] D 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] _C 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] no, _ comes later 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye its last 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] C D R _C 11:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ah ye 11:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] sure 11:20 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] ChillerDragon opened pull request #1062: Ignore Build and Release (master...master) https://git.io/vAHI1 11:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] if i push a new commit in my fork does it automatically gets added to the old pr? 11:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] zes 11:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes 11:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so i have to wait for bors 11:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or things get messed up 11:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I'd hope that bors has protection against that 11:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] because I didn't approve the new commits that you'd push 11:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] oh true 11:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] that can be a hacky thing 11:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] heueueueu 11:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] lemme try to haxxor ddnet 11:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Do you plan to release a new version soon? 11:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Jupstar βœͺ idk men ask deen but i dont think so 11:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] we have enough changes or why? 11:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yo @heinrich5991 this travis takes years do you want me to try if bors has a security issue 11:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and apply my new changes 11:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] because i want to finish my stuff before the next release, just a scheduling question 11:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nothing too special happend since the last release i guess 11:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] well i finished buffering quads, nearly finished the new font/text manager and then only the hud is left 11:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] then i buffered all ingame components 11:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the server browser can profit from it too 11:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Usually I release when we have enough changes together and/or someone feels like some important feature should be released 11:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but the gui won't since that's too much work xd 11:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] are the fonts self made(adjusted) btw? 11:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what fonts? 11:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the fonts in the client 11:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ah 11:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://github.com/matricks/teeworlds/blob/30e6e0877b972ed769db609e4cb1dce412973a07/data/fonts/LICENSE 11:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] mh i wonder if we should add a proper icon font 11:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what is wrong with the current? 11:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] since the exclude and search glass looks shit xd 11:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] .-. 11:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] cmon 11:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 11:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419808973831667712/unknown.png 11:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] see no problem 11:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] looks awesome c: 11:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it looks like the seach is female 11:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xD 11:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xxD 11:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://material.io/icons/ 11:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] web 11:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it even provides nice icons for settings etc 11:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ios 11:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] andriod 11:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] this sucks xd 11:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] is that a problem? 11:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] its google's almightyness 11:52 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] bors[bot] merged staging into master: https://git.io/vAHLo 11:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i'd prefer a smaller one, but defenitely a better one 11:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] (than the current) 11:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] (than the current, and for icons only) 11:54 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] ChillerDragon opened pull request #1063: Add python shebangs (master...master) https://git.io/vAHLS 11:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i like the font c: 11:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] f4 from my side 11:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but who am i xd 12:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what is the bam 12:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Hi guyz, i really like some features of all the hax, but i dont want to use it because ddnet client is best. can we implement some cool Features from ath in ddnet? 12:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] implement... 12:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ok 12:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what the features u like? @fokkonaut 12:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] skin fetcher, irc, fast server list updater for examopkle 12:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] skin fetcher, irc, fast server list updater for example 12:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] fast server list updater? how its working? 12:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] hey @n000b πŸ˜ƒ 12:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Skin fetcher is cool 12:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Hallo 12:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] skin fetcher this is when you hammer your friend and take him skin? 12:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] No it is that it downloads the skin from someone if you don't have it yet 12:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] wtf 12:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] So you always see all skins 12:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] rly good 12:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] very good 12:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes 12:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] idk it in past 12:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what i dont like in ath is this (imo) weird stuff when you hover over a field where u can click on 12:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Only problem is that a big database of skinss have an impact on the loading speed of the client. Dunno if it also affects the ping. 12:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] this "smooth" animations are not good imo 12:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @n000b why should it affect your internet conencting 12:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] we can make 12:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] of\onn 12:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ahah 12:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] off\on tumbler 12:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] in settings 12:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] turn on fetchering skin 12:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] turn off 12:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and 12:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Well why isn't the whole skin database in ddnet. Because it affects stuff if you don't have a good computer. 12:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it affects loading time, yes 12:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but a toggle option would be the solution^^ 12:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Arseniy Zarche true but people who don't know about it will complain about the client being slow. 12:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Yeah ofc there must be a toggle 12:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ofc? 12:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so much dialectююю 12:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so much dialect... 12:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] then make [] skin fetcher (may cause slow client loading) 12:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ok we can by default make turn OFF 12:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and if human want to loading skins 12:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] he will be turn ON this tumbler 12:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] probably will be 3 variants 12:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] we have this (warning messages) behind some stuff (like vsync) 12:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] configurations* 12:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 1 - simple turn off 12:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 2 - simple turn on 12:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 3 - turn on, but every time loading skin as if for the first time, it is for computers with a small amount of memory (hard drive) 12:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Ρ„Ρ‚Π² 12:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and 12:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 4 - turn on and saving ALL skins and if you already was loaded this skin you mustn't to load him again 12:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] do you understand me? 12:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and can we PLEASE have this vanilla skins only feature from ath without restarting the client ._. 13:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] eeeee's skin lazy loading should allow us to have the skin fetcher without major performance hits 13:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i think it downloads it from some server 13:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so depends on the internet connection 13:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I'd just download whatever's missing from the local skins 13:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] load skins asynchronously like in teewebs so until the skin is downloaded the tee looks like the default tee 13:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the only thing that sounds interesting to me is the faster server browser, is the current not async? 13:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the ddnet tab seems pretty fast 13:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] faster server browser in ATH is just caching 13:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it's misleading imho, showing old results 13:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] mhh ok 13:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thought it sends more server requests 13:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] by threading it or something saving some cpu time 13:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] actually we could implement http masters for faster serverbrowsing 13:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] like we did in teewebs, but then the ping calculation becomes approximate 13:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] learath 13:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i love you 13:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the ping calculation is also affected by the CPU speed 13:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] guess we could just not show any ping until we do the classical GETINFO just for the ping 13:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] its not that useful anyway 13:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] if we do http masters that include serverinfo the ping calculation becomese reaallly inacurate 13:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] It's more of a guess at that point 13:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I think in teewebs it's approximated by master->server + client->master ping 13:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] which is quite meh because routing 13:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @evil noby y? 13:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah, depends on too many factors then 13:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] probs many servers are slow anyway 13:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but yeah, http masters has an amazing advantage 13:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so even if some other server requests the info.. it's still not as fast as e.g. the ddnet tab 13:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] we can hide them behind cloudflare's HUGE ddos shield 13:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but the problem for most isnt the actual ip list is it? 13:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] more like the pinging to the servers 13:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah but I was thinking of adding the serverinfo to the master response too along with the ip list 13:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so the master probes all the servers and gets the serverinfo, and clients just ask the master 13:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] mhh sounds like localized master servers would be required to optain real gains from it 13:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] localized? 13:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] as in per region? 13:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] well how is ddnets VPS internet connection better than mine? 13:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 13:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the ping might be 5ms faster or smth, but the master server would need the same amount of time requesting the info 13:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] also it sounds easy to abuse for "ddos" by requesting the master server to request the servers 13:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or did u thought of caching here 13:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you get all of the info in one request instead of a thousand requests to the thousand servers 13:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah but the master always requests these infos? 13:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] master server obviously caches 13:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] oh ok 13:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah it's a stream of getinfo requests from the master that progressively updates the "main list" 13:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] well then it probs need to request the infos every 1-2 seconds 13:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] even at night 13:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] means more overhead 13:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I think we had a nice rate that keeps us off of the blacklists but I don't remember 13:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it's just a thought anyways 13:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I'm pretty sure there is a good reason not to do it 13:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] might even argue that we shouldn't centralize teeworlds more 13:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah sad that the vanilla teeworlds isnt developped at least a bit further 13:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] some basic stuff in the network mostly would really help making connection more secure 13:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but i think ddnet even has some connection tokkens for vanilla client doesnt it 13:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] we do yeah 15:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 15:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419856600392531968/Screenshot_20180304-145942.png 15:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Lol 15:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] What is it? 15:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ddnet GER\ 16:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Wow 16:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] Use translator ok? 16:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Arseniy Zarche Better to find an origional and copy. 16:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Retarded DDosers. 18:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] what? 19:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] does we have this tileset in default ddnet? 19:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/419923365621399563/Teeworlds_01.jpg 19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 19:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] still embed it 20:15 <@deen> you have to embed everything that's not in vanilla tw, the editor will show you that 20:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] hey 21:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe we need to do the editor of demos? 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] U already can cut them 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] when? 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 21:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] where?* @Gwendal 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't have my comptuter actually 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] But when u look a demo 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't have my comptuter 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] Idk how to explain xd 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Arseniy Zarche :x 22:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] i talking about advanced editor 22:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe 22:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk what the functions we can to create 22:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] omg 22:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] !skip